TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #29

[shefner]

Sort of like the JonBenet Ramsey case. I can see the obvious but my mind can't get around it.

 

[wfgodot]

Are we sure she's dead? And I'm not talking the "being held by kidnapper" variation.

 

[cluciano63]

This case makes me feel like an intruder for wanting to find ways to help, unlike any other missing persons case...

 

[cluciano63]

Are we sure she's dead? And I'm not talking the "being held by kidnapper" variation.

Lol, were you on Topix today, by chance?

 

[shefner]

Are we sure she's dead? And I'm not talking the "being held by kidnapper" variation.

No...I'm not sure she's dead. Could she be living? I want her to be living....but the odds say no.

Anyone thinking voluntary walk-away? Or involuntary walk-away (which is not quite the same as kidnapping...)....

I absolutely thought I knew more than I now think I know...you know?

 

[wfgodot]

Lol, were you on Topix today, by chance?

No, haven't been there in ages. Heart doctors advised me away from it!

 

[cluciano63]

I think that whatever happened, Karen Bobo is not clued in, meaning if others in family know something, I don't think she does. JMO

 

[Plumeria5]

No...I'm not sure she's dead. Could she be living? I want her to be living....but the odds say no.

Anyone thinking voluntary walk-away? Or involuntary walk-away (which is not quite the same as kidnapping...)....

I absolutely thought I knew more than I now think I know...you know?

What is the involuntary walk-away theory?

 

[wfgodot]

I think that whatever happened, Karen Bobo is not clued in, meaning if others in family know something, I don't think she does. JMO

I was sure of that till today when I came here and started reading.

 

[Plumeria5]

No, haven't been there in ages. Heart doctors advised me away from it!

Ok, that's very funny!!!:floorlaugh:

 

[SmoothOperator]

So, let's go with the benefit was canceled due to the family worried about the public's perception of there being more funds raised for Holly(specifically not knowing what the money is being used for).. Does this truly make sense that the family is worried about the public's perception?? Given their choices, decisions, statements, and actions do any of us believe for a minute this family cares about what the public's perception is?? IMO no.. If they were concerned in the least about the publics perception they certainly would not have made such a strange decision in a benefit which specifically involves the public.. IMO that just cannot be the motive here(and that's in no way meant to be rude about the suggestion of public perception being a possible motive.. I know we all here are just baffled and attempting to figure out what could be the motive)

Do I believe the motive is what KB claims it to be??? That they have "enough" and all they need is prayer?? No way in he!! Do I believe that's the motive nor do I even believe that statement is even accurate or true?? No, no, no! There isn't enough money or help for finding Holly because in a parent of a missing child's opinion nothing is "enough" until it brings their child home.. No matter what dollar amount is being spent, nor the Headcount of how many there are involved in helping.. No matter the numbers it is never enough until Holly is brought home!! This is how parents of a missing child believe.. Even the most humble or proud of parents when it comes to their child missing nothing is to great,
Nor ever enough until that child is found.. That IMO lays to rest the "they have enough" motive for why the benefit was cancelled..

This particular benefit IMO does seem to be one of the better, more well thought out and planned benefits with a very specific goal for where the funds raised would be used.. Whereas some of the other benefits seems to have been not so thoroughly planned with no specific goal or even specific area of where the raised funds would go.. So here with one with a goal of the funds to be used directly for professional searchers and/or investigators(just as many of us have begged for them to use both of those avenues).. By request directly of the family, specifically KB, herself this is canceled with a statement that they have "enough" and only prayers are needed..

If were for reasons such as LE/TBI demanding that they keep full control of the case as in investigators and searchers I truly feel as tho KB would share that in a very tactful and polite way to this fundraiser(that's been in the works for some time now).. I believe that Karen would say that they would very much like to have all the help offered but that they are trusting LE and their capabilities to bring Holly home.. She wouldve explained to this woman that it was due to a LE issue.. This wasn't done.. And this woman is very hurt and at a loss from what Karen said in that they had enough and did not want the benefit to happen in any capacity for Holly..

It's baffling and it truly leads one to believe that it is a personal family issue as to the why they wanted the benefit cancelled.. LE/TBI's not wanting it would be such an easy thing to tell as the motive.. This obviously wasn't told.. It definitely IMO seems to be a choice and decision made directly by the Bobo family as well as the request to call off the benefit came directly from the family.. It is baffling!! Why this fundraiser?? The one that actually would be capable of bringing Holly home with it affording an avenue of SAR as well as possible new set of eyes to look at the case.. Why would this the only benefit IMO that seems truly worthwhile and that something could actual come from it in actually helping to find Holly!! A very specific goal here unlike the others for "expenses and searching" In general???

I truly am banging my head on this one in frustration!!?? WTH?? Really just WTH???!??!?

 

[wfgodot]

I think the family very much cares what the public's perception is. And I wonder why.

 

[cluciano63]

I am at a loss. I don't know for sure that Karen B. would have publicly blamed LE if they asked her to cancel the fundraiser. But I know for sure I would have...but I also would not have cancelled it, unless LE told me they had a suspect and were about to make an arrest. But still...even if an arrest were to be made, Holly still needs to be found, so cancelling makes no sense...

 

[~n/t~]

I never realized how uncomfortable it is to sit on my hands. Off to bed. Good night folks. fftobed:

 

[SmoothOperator]

Ok, guys I've a good question that I think would be deemed appropriate for us to discuss and within the rules..

We know the answer to does what Clint tells were the events of that morning make sense?? The answer has always been no.. And boy have we tried every which way imaginable to attempt to make them make sense..

What about this.. What concrete evidence do we have that points away from ANYTHING having takenplace in the home(accident or otherwise).. What stone, cold, hard facts do we have that point away from it being in the home??

An example would be the neighbor hearing screams and calling the school and informing Karen.. But then upon truly dissecting that entire situation is still does not point to a definite nothing happened in the home.. Afterall it was at the Bobo home that the screams came from.. But I know there's got to be issues that point away from it happening in the home.. So let's list them..

I'm going to think on it for a moment to see what I come up with..

 

[shefner]

What is the involuntary walk-away theory?

Ummmm...I don't know.
LOL

I guess the theory that someone convinced her to come along...and then convinced her to stay away?

No, no...that makes no sense at all.

Did I actually say "involuntary walk-away theory?" What was I thinking?

*sigh*

 

[CocoChanel]

I never realized how uncomfortable it is to sit on my hands. Off to bed. Good night folks. fftobed:

I know right?!? What can we say/what can't we say in order to keep ourselves above reproach? We all are responsible for maintaining the good name of WS. But gosh it's hard sometimes, when it feels like you are watching the emporer who has no clothes!

There is a Holly Facebook thread in the basement. Maybe we can discuss a few things there.

 

[shefner]

Ok, guys I've a good question that I think would be deemed appropriate for us to discuss and within the rules..

We know the answer to does what Clint tells were the events of that morning make sense?? The answer has always been no.. And boy have we tried every which way imaginable to attempt to make them make sense..

What about this.. What concrete evidence do we have that points away from ANYTHING having takenplace in the home(accident or otherwise).. What stone, cold, hard facts do we have that point away from it being in the home??

An example would be the neighbor hearing screams and calling the school and informing Karen.. But then upon truly dissecting that entire situation is still does not point to a definite nothing happened in the home.. Afterall it was at the Bobo home that the screams came from.. But I know there's got to be issues that point away from it happening in the home.. So let's list them..

I'm going to think on it for a moment to see what I come up with..

Well, let's see...blood outside? Coke spilled in car port or driveway?
The main thing hinges on the eyewitness account....
Geez....

 

[shefner]

I know right?!? What can we say/what can't we say in order to keep ourselves above reproach? We all are responsible for maintaining the good name of WS. But gosh it's hard sometimes, when it feels like you are watching the emporer who has no clothes!

There is a Holly Facebook thread in the basement. Maybe we can discuss a few things there.

Can you turn the lights on in the basement so I can find it? Or is that allowed?

Yes, I have been a member for several years and still don't know all the rules....

 

[cluciano63]

The lunchpail found 6 (or 8) miles away has always been a sticking point assuming the screams happened when "it" happened.