TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #29

[R.U.Kidding!]

You're right. And...why didn't he find Clint a threat?

I am not sure he/they planned on Clint even being there. It has been mentioned that Clint's car was in the garage. As I mentioned before I think Clint's presence that morning was the one thing they did not plan on. :twocents:

 

[Plumeria5]

I am not sure he/they planned on Clint even being there. It has been mentioned that Clint's car was in the garage. As I mentioned before I think Clint's presence that morning was the one thing they did not plan on. :twocents:

I thought the garage was not enclosed and you could see the cars?

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Final hours with Holly: Family, friends, police reconstruct time before Holly Bobo's abduction

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111009/NEWS25/110090326

Well in that "Teaser" it mentions that various LE agencies arrived at 8:05, 10 minutes after being last seen by Clint. Can that be right?? How is it they found no trace of Holly, her belongings,or a trail in the "supposed" woods she "strolled" into with camo man. WTH! was she Airlifted?

Guess had they set up immediate road blocks we might not have an unsolved crime. This is just too bazaar!

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

I thought the garage was not enclosed and you could see the cars?

OH dear-- I read this a while ago, but if the garage was not enclosed.......then NEVERMIND? :crazy:

 

[Plumeria5]

OH dear-- I read this a while ago, but if the garage was not enclosed.......then NEVERMIND? :crazy:

I don't know for sure either. I am so confused!! :crazy:

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I thought the garage was not enclosed and you could see the cars?

Aparently the garage is attached to the house and enclosed. The cars seem to be parked in an open sided car port behind the house. Various photos posted here in the past support this. Unfortunately a lot of descriptions use "carport", "garage", and "driveway" interchangeably and we do not know exactly where Holly's car was and where the events of that morning happened.

In Clint's JVM interview he did say "garage" and that the garage was attached to the house.

 

[wishuwerehere]

Snipped from: http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111009/NEWS25/110090326

"A lot of mornings before I leave, I'll ask her if she needs any money to buy gas," Dana said. "It is about 5:30 I guess, when I usually leave to go to work, and I talked to her through the door. She said leave her some money, and I left the money on the bar at 5:30 or 25 until 6, and that was the last I talked to her."

BBM

I hope the rest of the article is going to be more straightforward than this.

Please, someone be SPECIFIC!

jmo

 

[Plumeria5]

Aparently the garage is attached to the house and enclosed. The cars seem to be parked in an open sided car port behind the house. Various photos posted here in the past support this. Unfortunately a lot of descriptions use "carport", "garage", and "driveway" interchangeably and we do not know exactly where Holly's car was and where the events of that morning happened.

In Clint's JVM interview he did say "garage" and that the garage was attached to the house.

Thanks, Carla. My impression was that the former garage is now additional living space and the carport where the cars are usually parked is not attached. So, what I was thinking, is that wherever Clint's car was parked, it would be visible to others without going inside a structure. I should have clarified my saying "garage" was really an open carport where the cars are now kept.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Snipped from: http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111009/NEWS25/110090326

"A lot of mornings before I leave, I'll ask her if she needs any money to buy gas," Dana said. "It is about 5:30 I guess, when I usually leave to go to work, and I talked to her through the door. She said leave her some money, and I left the money on the bar at 5:30 or 25 until 6, and that was the last I talked to her."

BBM

I hope the rest of the article is going to be more straightforward than this.

Please, someone be SPECIFIC!

jmo

Thats quite specific to me. What do you want him to say? Most people get up and do things at approximately the same time every day. Im sure that morning he did not think ok its 5:29 and 47 seconds when I am talking to Holly. He specifically says he leaes around 5:30 and he spoke with her and left the money/left the house at 5:30 - 5:35. Can't get more specific than that really.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Thanks, Carla. My impression was that the former garage is now additional living space and the carport where the cars are usually parked is not attached. So, what I was thinking, is that wherever Clint's car was parked, it would be visible to others without going inside a structure. I should have clarified my saying "garage" was really an open carport where the cars are now kept.

Yes we do not know where Holly or Clint had their vehicles. I assume they were together. I think at some point it was said Clint had seen the blood when he went to leave himself... so I assume he leaves the house the same way Holly would have. Clint also said i in the JVM interview the blood was in the garage where he saw the figures kneeling. IMHO they (Holly and Clint) go out a back door from the carage area to the carport behind the house. This is not an uncommon house design feature. That would also explain why Clint was back at/in the garage again as he was going out back/leaving.

 

[wishuwerehere]

Thats quite specific to me. What do you want him to say? Most people get up and do things at approximately the same time every day. Im sure that morning he did not think ok its 5:29 and 47 seconds when I am talking to Holly. He specifically says he leaes around 5:30 and he spoke with her and left the money/left the house at 5:30 - 5:35. Can't get more specific than that really.

What I would like him to say is, “On the morning of April 13th this is what happened…” Instead he tells us what he does every other morning. It’s very ambiguous to me. Just tell it like it is. Who cares what happened on all the other mornings before April 13th?

Like I said, I hope the rest of the article is more straightforward than this “teaser”.

JMO

 

[Plumeria5]

I just read the full article on another website but not sure I can post a link here?? Lots of details.

 

[~n/t~]

Not sure if other sites are allowed to be posted. Don't want you getting in trouble Plumeria. How sweet of you to tease us though. :floorlaugh:

 

[cluciano63]

I read it too...it provides an alibi for Drew.

 

[wfgodot]

I just read the full article on another website but not sure I can post a link here?? Lots of details.

Shouldn't quote the article but it's probably okay to name (but not to link to) the website.

 

[goldiegirl]

In the full article that we can't quote or link to yet, did anyone else notice that the silhouettes were completely omitted from this timeline?! Absolutely no mention whatsoever by Clint of seeing anything other than them walking into the woods!

When it said the first LE officials were on site within 10 minutes of Clint seeing them go into the woods, I was shocked. He ran outside with a gun, so it's not like he sat inside and waited and let them get out of sight. Between the time that he saw them and got out there with the gun, they were out of sight, and 10 minutes after he first saw them, when LE were on scene, they had completely vanished. How on earth does that happen?

Also noticed that the friend who drove Karen home from school was named Bromley. That probably explains how they ended up with Kevin Bromley as their spokesperson - probably her husband.

Anyway, reading this account really is gutwrenching, because it just makes it all the more real. I got a sick feeling as I was reading this, imagining how the morning played out. This is really awful..

 

[goodgirl65]

Where is this article posted? i know you cant link but please give me name of website

 

[Oriah]

In the full article that we can't quote or link to yet, did anyone else notice that the silhouettes were completely omitted from this timeline?! Absolutely no mention whatsoever by Clint of seeing anything other than them walking into the woods!

When it said the first LE officials were on site within 10 minutes of Clint seeing them go into the woods, I was shocked. He ran outside with a gun, so it's not like he sat inside and waited and let them get out of sight. Between the time that he saw them and got out there with the gun, they were out of sight, and 10 minutes after he first saw them, when LE were on scene, they had completely vanished. How on earth does that happen?

Also noticed that the friend who drove Karen home from school was named Bromley. That probably explains how they ended up with Kevin Bromley as their spokesperson - probably her husband.

Anyway, reading this account really is gutwrenching, because it just makes it all the more real. I got a sick feeling as I was reading this, imagining how the morning played out. This is really awful..

This post not directed at you, goldiegirl- or anyone else. Just using your statement to jump off of.

Holly's case has been 'real' right from the start.
It has been confirmed 'real' by local, state, and federal LE.

Sure wish people would utilize that fact when sleuthing- it's what will help bring Holly home.

 

[~n/t~]

Well there must be a problem then. If it is "real" and this was a stranger abduction, the family or anyone close to Holly would be cleared but TBI hasn't cleared anyone in the case yet. IIRC, it was specific to a question asked by a reporter about CB. I posted the link on here somewhere.

Perhaps LE should clear that up for the sleuthers who are continuously being blamed for questioning the family when in fact, TBI is still unable to do so on record.

Hailey Dunn's case was also questionable and they even had a suspect but guess what? Her case is now ruled a kidnapping by the FBI. What does that tell us? Does that mean Shawn Adkins is no longer a suspect? She was kidnapped by a stranger? Everyone close to Hailey is cleared? Is discussing Shawn's involvement off limits now because he's considered a victim? Same goes for Billie?

Baby Lisa's case is still questionable. It hasn't been ruled a kidnapping by the FBI yet and LE hasn't ruled out the family. There are those "sleuthing" both sides. A kidnapping and a possible parent involvement.

I'm not sure why this case is any different. WS is considered a victim friendly forum and I get that but yet I see an issue with certain cases and not others. I guess that's where my confusion lies.

Here is the link again.

Nobody ruled out in Holly Bobo investigation
April 18, 2011 6:55 AM

Chris Wragge talks to Mark Gwyn, director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation about the search for missing nursing student, Holly Bobo.

Nobody ruled out in Holly Bobo investigation - CBS News Video

 

[~n/t~]

Not sure why it brings up the wrong video but if you go to the CBS site, the video is there.