TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #30

[MizStery]

4:30am*Holly awoke to study for an exam @8am. She studied in her room, alone, on her bed, and with the door shut..(time verified only via Holly's telling her mom later that morning)

5:30am*Dana stops at Holly's bedroom door and speaks to Holly thru her closed door asking did she need any money. She replies yes and he leaves it for her on kitchen counter.

5:35am*Dana leaves for work.

5:35am*Karen awoke and went into Holly's room to speak with her. Holly was studying
on her bed.

Just shy of 7:00am*Holly is now studying at the kitchen table. Karen
packs Holly's lunch and puts her breakfast in the microwave.

7:00am*Karen leaves to go to work(26 min travel time to work)

7:00am*Hannah calls Holly from her home landline on Holly's cell.. Holly indicates she is going to eat her breakfast and put her shoes on to leave.
Almost 7:30am*Holly's at the kitchen table studying when she receives a call from Drew. He proceeds to tell her of the cousin not recognizing him and wasn't giving permission for he and his dad to hunt on her grandma's 60acres located across the county.

7:30-7:35am*A flurry of calls take place between Holly, Drew, and
Karen discussing the incident of Drew's not being recognized to hunt grandma's property.

7:35am*Karen speaks to Holly for the last time via cell phone.<Noted that Clint was still in bed asleep.>.
7:40am*James Barnes(neighbor to the south)Hears a scream from the Bobo's house. He alerts his mom(who lived there as well) and then left for work.

Around 7:40am*Cathy Wise(James' mom) calls Karen at school amd leaves her a msg in the office.
7:45am*Karen receives the neighbor's msg while in the school cafeteria.

7:50am*Clint is awakened by the dog barking. He looks out the window and sees no unfamiliar vehicles, but does see Holly's car. This prompts him to call mom as he'd already looked around and knew Holly was not in the home. He says his call was to ask if Holly had
received a ride to school or did not have school that day. Mom's phone is in her classroom so he gets no answer.

At some point AFTER 7:50am**mom after receiving neighbor's msg she uses library phone to call home. Clint tells mom that Holly's car is still home. Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911(routed to Henderson Co)

7:50am*After the call Clint looks out the kitchen window and sees his
sister and who he believed to be Drew casually walking towards the woods. This prompts him to call Holly's cell. It rings 5 times and goes to voicemail. He then calls Drew's phone.. It rings 5
times and goes to voicemail.<Noted that this assures Clint that Holly/Drew were indeed together with neither answering their cell phone.>.

7:55am*Karen again calls home with Clint relaying he'd just seen Holly/Drew walking towards the woods. Mom immediately tells Clint that is NOT DREW.call 911.Mom then tells Clint to get a gun and go after the man! Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911 a second time.*<Noted that at this time mom still HAD NOT told Clint that Drew had been on the other side of the county hunting.. THO THAT WAS MUCH EARLIER BUT FACT WAS CLINT
STATED AT THAT TIME HE STILL BELIEVED IT TO BE DREW.

8:00am*Clint with loaded gun leaves out the backdoor of the residence, walks thru the
open garage attached to the house. He sees a puddle of blood near Holly's car. *<[/i]Noted that even at this point Clint was still NOT alarmed, still believed it was Drew, and the blood was from a turkey(tho clearly no turkey in site)[/i]>.

About 8:00am*Clint walked towards the woods when Cathy Wise pulls up the driveway( James who heard the scream's mother)*<Noted that the school secretary told Cathy to go to the Bobo home to check> Cathy proceeds to tell Clint about the screams she had heard just some 15-20mins
prior.[I personally noted that it does state that "she" heard the scream(s), but could just be the author's choice in words and not meaning it that "she" actually heard the scream(s)]
*<Noted it is at this point that Clint becomes alarmed for the first time> .

About 8:00am*Clint calls 911 at the same time as he heard the engines rev of the quickly approaching patrol cars onto their Swan Johnson Rd.
*<Noted that Clint states that the first officers were on the scene IN LESS THAN 10 mins from the time that he saw his sister/male walking towards the woods>
8:00am*Drew is at his job in Parsons
8:00am-ish*Mom arrives home with Terrie Bromley from school
8:30am*Dana arrives back home
What is so very obviously omitted in this version of the timeline is that Clint states he awakes
at 7:50am to the dog barking and he immediately goes into his checking out thru the windows and saw that Holly's car was still at home, thus prompting him to call mom and ask had she gotten a ride to school...
And gone is the murky details of his looking out the window and seeing 2 "silouhettes" inside the attached garage that were in a kneeling position.. Gone too are the details of his account where he is close enough to the two in the garage that he can actually make out that they had "young sounding" voices(way back at the very beginning even stating he believed the voices soundex as tho they were arguing).. This entire chunk of Clint's account of that morning's events are suddenly gone in this new timeline.. Why? They certainly were hammered on and driven home in the JVM interview with him getting very detailed with the set up and location of
the attached garage where he'd first seen and heard two people that morning after being awakened by the dog barking.. His going into further detail that it was due to his not knowing who or why they were in their garage that directly led to his making that initial
to mom that morning.. His wanting to know was it Holly and if so who was she with and what were they doing?.. And then the events of the morning pick back up coinciding with this timeline from his mom returning that first phonecall and his learning Holly should infact have already long since been at
school for an early morning important exam..

Smooth Operator,thanks for your timeline. Thanks also for the summary. MOO

"Oh what a tangled web we weave,/When first we practise to deceive!"

 

[SmoothOperator]

Smooth, you may have posted the 26 minutes travel time for Karen and I probably missed it. How did you arrive to the 26 minutes? TIA

In Clint's latest version, Karen was at the house in minutes. Maybe 5 minutes if we calculate all that happened from when he awoke at 7:50 to 8:00.

Hang on a minute and I'll dig it up. It's from taking several different maps(google, bing, mapquest) and looking at the, I believe it is 3 different routes available to take from the home to the school.. I have listed the shortest travel time at 26 mins and the longest route put the travel time at 29 mins.. Lemme go find the map, with the directions and travel time..BRB

 

[SmoothOperator]

Ok, so here's the google map marked with a route that is in the middle(28mins travel time) of the shortest route(being 26mins).. And the longest route(being 29mins)..

And just to be clear of what exactly the two locations mapped are(and in case others want to map the varying routes).. It begins at the Bobo residence 681 Swan Johnson Rd. Darden, TN 38328 and it ends at Scotts Hill Elementary Hwy 114 South, Scotts Hill, TN 38374..

Does that help?

*ETA- I assumed with the residence having been openly posted, reported, etc for the last 6mos it wouldn't be a problem for me to list it(mods.. Plz let me know if this incorrect and will edit out the specific address).. And with the other address being a public school I assumed it was fine to post the specific address.. *my reason for posting those two specifics was for others to be able to map out the routes to see or confirm the travel times between the two locations.. (plz lemme know if not appropriate and I will edit them out.

 

[~n/t~]

Thanks Smooth. I just don't get how she got there in 5 min. Something is wrong with the timeline.

 

[~n/t~]

I got same on google maps. Thank you.

 

[birpu]

n/t, I believe I recall that the last call Karen made to Clint was from the car, using her friend's phone. So she may have left the school right after Clint tells her they are walking to the woods. Maybe gives her another three or four minutes by the time she gets her keys and makes it to the car. Still not enough, though. She did arrive with her friend from school - so she had to have driven the whole distance. This timeline needs a little work.

Speaking of using the friend's phone - this is a little weird, too and I don't understand. She is reached in the cafeteria in person because her phone is in her classroom. Next she uses the library phone because it's closer. Then apparently she rushes back to the classroom (my interpretation) to get her car keys - right? Now, not having had her phone the last few minutes for these incredibly important calls it seems she would have grabbed it too, but maybe she just hastily got her purse and the phone - wasn't in it? So then, everybody is at the house for days and days. When did she go back and get her phone? Maybe someone brought it to her. Those are just the little things I wonder about sometimes.

 

[~n/t~]

n/t, I believe I recall that the last call Karen made to Clint was from the car, using her friend's phone. So she may have left the school right after Clint tells her they are walking to the woods. Maybe gives her another three or four minutes by the time she gets her keys and makes it to the car. Still not enough, though. She did arrive with her friend from school - so she had to have driven the whole distance. This timeline needs a little work.

Speaking of using the friend's phone - this is a little weird, too and I don't understand. She is reached in the cafeteria in person because her phone is in her classroom. Next she uses the library phone because it's closer. Then apparently she rushes back to the classroom (my interpretation) to get her car keys - right? Now, not having had her phone the last few minutes for these incredibly important calls it seems she would have grabbed it too, but maybe she just hastily got her purse and the phone - wasn't in it? So then, everybody is at the house for days and days. When did she go back and get her phone? Maybe someone brought it to her. Those are just the little things I wonder about sometimes.

I wonder about that too. If in the next version we read or hear that her cellphone and Clint's cellphone are missing, I'll just throw my hands up in the air and give up.

 

[Hippy Chick]

or buried her...by a church, imo. Bow and arrow makes sense. It would explain not hearing a gunshot. It reminds me of a case that I saw on 48 hours. I don't recall the names off the top of my head but the husband was convicted of murder. He (and his defense) said it was an accident.

Was this the first day of bow or firearm season?

 

[SmoothOperator]

How i understand is..
True Karen's cell was in classroom and Karen was in the school cafeteria thus causing Clints initial call to go unanswered.. Someone from the office finds Karen in the cafeteria and relays the msg from the neighbor that there had been a scream from the Bobo's residence.. Then how I understood it from there was that Karen wasn't "returning" a call to Clint, as the cell was still in the classroom.. Karen goes to the closest phone in the library to call Clint to check in. This is when Clint relays to mom that Holly's car was still there at home. From what I understand this is when Karen "loses it" and falls out screaming and uncontrollably crying(as stated by school employee).. Karen says at this point she "just knew".. She said the school staff couldn't understand why she was reacting this way.. But Karen says after hearing Holly's car was still at home when she knew she should have already left for school and the important exam.. That upon learning this combined with the neighbor telling her they'd heard a scream.. That Karen knew something very dire was happening..

How I understand if from there is that after "losing it" and calling 911(routed to Henderson Co) that she never goes back to her classroom to retrieve her cell or keys or anything that I know of.. She asked Terrie(co-worker) to drive her home. Thus leaving the cell behind in the classroom.. While en route to the home in Terrie's car Karen decides to call and check back in with Clint at home. She uses Terrie's phone to make this call.. This is when Clint tells her he'd just seen Holly/Drew casually walking towards the woods..

This is where IMO Karen reaches peak panic and immediately tells Clint THAT IT IS NOT DREW!! And directs him to do two things.. Call 911 and go get a gun and go after the man!!! Mom then hangs up and immediately calls 911 for a second time(this call routed to correct local dispatch).. What I again find to be so unusual(as several of us discussed in the beginning as well as at great lengths just 2 weeks ago) and that is that Karen never shares with Clint what has her so committed to the fact IT COULD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE BEEN DREW THAT HE SAW!.. this IMO confirmed solidly with this latest article where Clint notes that even after two phone calls with his mom, the last one she tells him it's not Drew, for him to contact 911, and
MOST IMPORTANTLY directs her son to retrieve a gun and immediately go after the man!!.. But yet after all of this Clint specifically notes THAT HE STILL BELIEVED IT WAS DREW!!!

EVEN AFTER EXITING THE HOME, WITH A LOADED GUN IN TOW, WALKING THRU THE OPEN GARAGE AND SEEING A PUDDLE OF BLOOD NEAR HOLLY's CAR!!!!!

CLINT NOTES THAT EVEN AFTER THAT HE STILL BELIEVED IT WAS DREW!!

It really really makes one wonder was it Drew?? Because Clint with a loaded gun in hand directed by his mom to go after "the man", and seeing a puddle of fresh blood next to his sister's car(that In and of itself was NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE STILL BEEN PARKED AT HOME).. That Clint states that he still firmly believed his sister to be with DREW!!!

What in the he!! Is really going on??? I mean I really want to know!!

 

[SmoothOperator]

Re: first day of bow or firearm season..

In the latest Jackson Sun article, "Final Hours with Holly Bobo" the following is stated:

Since April 2, the opening day of turkey season, hunters from around the state had been entering the woods a half hour before daybreak.

Not sure If that helps answer your question or not..

 

[~n/t~]

Was this the first day of bow or firearm season?

From what I understand it was the first day of Turkey Hunting Season. But...I am totally clueless of what that all means. Do they use bow and arrows to hunt turkeys?

Can you tell I'm a city girl? :floorlaugh:

 

[Wonless]

If Holly was injured, the "drug" part would make a lot more sense, imo.

There is a video, which I can't find now and which I have mentioned before that is a press conference in which either the sheriff or TBI talks specifically about the "dragged" statement, and then goes on to specifically show what Clint had said about the person holding Holly's left arm, with a clear demostration of there understanding of what Clint witnessed.
Can anyone find that video Beane? When you see this demostration, it makes even more sense.

 

[Wonless]

This timeline and Clint's story just are not believable to me at this point. I can't tell if its that the story is changing, or being miss reported, or if maybe CB is on some kind of medication and isn't thinking rationally, but his story is unravailing in my opinion. I just don't think that CB could have beeen involved and gotten away with it, given that he Holly talks to DS and KB at 7:35 and is fine, and LE arrives shortly after 8 CB doesnt have time...IMO.

 

[Wonless]

From what I understand it was the first day of Turkey Hunting Season. But...I am totally clueless of what that all means. Do they use bow and arrows to hunt turkeys?

Can you tell I'm a city girl? :floorlaugh:

They do in some places, but I dont know about TN.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think Clint has time either...but he sure tells a screwy tale.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I agree wonless that with 3 separate witnesses having "spoke" with Holly(not text but actually spoke with) btwn 7:00am-7:35am.. 7:00am she speaks with friend, Hannah.. Just before 7:30am she speaks with boyfriend, Drew.. And 7:35am she speaks with her mom for the last time.. So, at 7:35am Holly was alive and well.. And we have first officers on the scene at almost 8:00am straight up.. There is no way possible that Clint is responsible..

For me even if you remove both Karen and Drew's 7:30 and 7:35 testimonies of speaking with Holly.. We still have a completely neutral witness that spoke with an alive and well Holly at 7:00am.. That IMO still would not allow for Clint to have been responsible for Holly's disappearance in under an hour, with the neighbor arriving at the residence even before LE..

IMO if the timeline is only accurate with the neutral witness, Hannah's account of that mornings event of speaking with Holly at 7am then IMO it does rule out Clint..
Besides the multitude of other reasons where I find it impossible that Clint could have pulled this off.. But IMO he's not responsible.. Does that mean I believe his timeline and acct of the events of that morning??

He!! No I don't!! But IMO that is not due to him being responsible for Hollys disappearance.. As far as that Clint is clear in my book..

 

[~n/t~]

This timeline and Clint's story just are not believable to me at this point. I can't tell if its that the story is changing, or being miss reported, or if maybe CB is on some kind of medication and isn't thinking rationally, but his story is unravailing in my opinion. I just don't think that CB could have beeen involved and gotten away with it, given that he Holly talks to DS and KB at 7:35 and is fine, and LE arrives shortly after 8 CB doesnt have time...IMO.

This is not directed at you. I'm just jumping off your post because you brought up misreporting, etc.

Frankly, I've had enough of hearing that the media got it wrong or TBI got it wrong or LE got it wrong. When do we start looking at this case without blinders on? We've heard Clint's version in interviews, we've seen it reported in writing and from page 1 of this forum, inconsistencies already existed and folks were questioning the brother's behaviour on that morning.

I ask folks to take a step back and wonder if this was NOT the brother. What if it was a spouse? Would we still be analyzing this case with rose coloured glasses? Just because this is a small religious community does not mean innocence prevails. There are very dark secrets even in small close knit communities. Preachers kill their wives, wives kill their husbands, mothers kill their children. No community is immune to evil.

Until TBI or FBI clears this family especially Clint or Drew, I will continue to look at them as possible suspects. Clint's story doesn't make any sense no matter how hard I try to give him the benefit of the doubt. If it doesn't make sense, it's a lie.

 

[~n/t~]

The only non family person who spoke to Holly was her friend at 7 am. Like I said in a previous post, I include Drew as family. There is no evidence that Holly actually spoke to any of them. It's all hearsay.

 

[cluciano63]

The only non family person who spoke to Holly was her friend at 7 am. Like I said in a previous post, I include Drew as family. There is no evidence that Holly actually spoke to any of them. It's all hearsay.

OK, if the last person outside of the family spoke with Holly at 7am...it only makes it possible that Clint and/or family was involved, in my opinion, if the scream heard by the neighbor is completely unrelated to Holly. If it was related and happened when he said, there really isn't time to "disappear" Holly so completely and get her belongings across town.

 

[~n/t~]

OK, if the last person outside of the family spoke with Holly at 7am...it only makes it possible that Clint and/or family was involved, in my opinion, if the scream heard by the neighbor is completely unrelated to Holly. If it was related and happened when he said, there really isn't time to "disappear" Holly so completely and get her belongings across town.

Not if it was one person, I agree. If 2 people were involved, I believe it quite possible. I don't believe Holly walked into the woods. I think she was put in a car immediately after injury. Her belongings, IIRC, were found 2 days later. They could've very well have been planted.

I don't think the scream was Holly.