TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #30

[birpu]

But what about him saying he didn't think they'd be seeing her for a long while?


Also I find this statement peculiar:
"The thing is there was no turkey," Clint said. "I wondered why they would take the turkey back to the woods unless they were walking back to put the turkey in his truck." -

There's a bit of an assumption there that he knows where Drew's truck is. Does Drew always park on the logging road when he's hunting there? Or did Clint just reveal he knew where Drew was parked that day?

 

[cluciano63]

But what about him saying he didn't think they'd be seeing her for a long while?

Also I find this statement peculiar:
"The thing is there was no turkey," Clint said. "I wondered why they would take the turkey back to the woods unless they were walking back to put the turkey in his truck." -

There's a bit of an assumption there that he knows where Drew's truck is. Does Drew always park on the logging road when he's hunting there? Or did Clint just reveal he knew where Drew was parked that day?

Of all of the outlandish things about this case as presented, this one statement just about takes it for me. Does he think people go into the woods often and never come back? Didn't he just a moment ago watch her walk casually into the woods? But now he thinks she may be gone a long time? Granted, he is/was under all kinds of stress, but this statement just blows my mind.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I believe as cluciano that mom and dad are not responsible for disappearing Holly.. I, too, as I stated upthread find that the neutral witness, Hannah's acct of speaking to an alive and well Holly at 7:00am(with clear indications that there was nothing nefarious, nor mysterious going on at that point).. My reasons for believing that is due to Holly's statements indicating her intentions were to finish breakfast, don her shoes, and out the door to school.. Hannah's acct as a neutral witness IMO places Clint in the clear as well as far as there just not being sufficient amount of time for him to have done the many necessary steps in order to have Holly still unlocated with the only evidence we know of a puddle of blood near her car.. IMO given what I personally have observed regarding Clint NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD HE HAVE EVEN HAD THE CAPABILITIES TO HAVE PULLED OFF ANYTHING LIKE THIS.. and that's strictly from me as a stranger and my observations of him, not taking into acct his love for his sister, or whether he is a tender hearted soul, etc.. Just on the observations alone I say he is absolutely INCAPABLE of the disappearance of Holly(that is unless there is an entire layer of him hidden beneath a facade of a very "slow" and naive individual.. I highly doubt from what little I have heard from locals who do know this family)..

But where my thoughts differ is that I am not convinced at all that the family is totally clueless of extremely pertinent backstory to all of this.. The backstory that possibly culminated in Holly's being taken(and yes, likely killed IMO).. That for me is a very real possibility that I personally believe is not only possible, but plausible given what we've seen of the coirse of these last 6mos.. Another possibility for me is that either along with there being a backstory leading up to Holly's abduction.. Or even without the family having knowledge of the backstory that led to her abduction.. For me there is great possibility that what occurred that morning is nothing remotely similar to what has been relayed to is.. That would make many things more sensical and understanding why the gaping obvious omissions are present throughout, along with large in size inconsistencies, and outright farcical claims IMO.. All of these things would make better sense in know they are false hence why such obvious flaws to accounts of that mornings events.. But then why?? That is the question I keep asking, why would there be a need to cover up or conceal the actual true events as they occurred that morning?

What or how could that serve Holly in her being found? IMO it just wouldn't.. How ever could a false or fabricated account of that mornings events in any way help to find Holly? Unless there is more that we do not know.. And I then circle back to the family having full knowledge of the backstory that culminated in Holly being abducted.. IMO for them to feel it necessary to conceal the true events to say protect Holly.. Well IMO the only way that would be possible is for the family to have knowledge of who the person(s) are that have Holly or have taken Holly.. Does that make sense? Probably not with my describing it.:crazy: but for me the family having knowledge of the backstory leading up to Holly's abduction and/or the family having knowledge of those responsible would be the only reasons I can come up with why the family would be fabricating the events instead of publicly giving the true and factual events as they occurred that morning..

Idk?!? Head spinning.. Gotta take a break from this for now..

 

[birpu]

quick question here. If you were informed of a scream coming from your home and then were told that your daughter, who should have already left, was seen walking into the woods with someone you believe is a stranger, who would you call? 911, ok. Then I'd call her, because - heck, wouldn't you just want to ask her if she's alright? Karen never says she tried to call Holly after she spoke with her around 7:30. I wonder if she did.

 

[MizStery]

Thanks,to all of the posters on this thread. I appreciate the amount of time to document and sift through mountains of data then compile it for us to read.

I almost have to suspend all i thought i knew about this story and start over.

The best analogy is i feel like i am watching an Alfred Hickcock movie.

When deception is the rule rather than the exception ....you just have to take a deep breath and go for it.

I have to ask,is it safe to assume that there was a factor of fear or intimidation for some unknown reason against members of this family?Threats even terrible retributions if people did not comply? The reason for this line of questions is I am completely lost and do not know where else to begin. Does any one have theory they are willing to share? MOO

 

[SmoothOperator]

Hey, what do you all make of this statement from the recent article in the Jackson Sun, Oct 13? I find it highly interesting, especially the part that I capitalized. Which I would have done in boldface, but I don't know how on my Macbook Air. Anyway:

"Tennessee Bureau of Investigation Special Agent John Mehr said the information his agents recorded that morning did not lead him to believe people coming into the yard hindered the investigation.

"I don't believe that was the case," Mehr said. "We have to believe what was told to us by the initial responders, and the other thing is that WE HAVE A WRITTEN RECORD OF WHAT WE SAW AND WHAT WE WERE TOLD THAT MORNING. OTHER PEOPLE MAY TRY TO REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT THEY SAID, BUT WE HAVE A RECORD OF IT. And I have no doubt the initial responders told us the truth." "
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111013/NEWS25/110130314

It sure sounds to me like he is saying Clint's (and others'?) statements are on record - and Clint can now recall something else, but he believes what Clint first said, and is hinting that Clint can't quite remember exactly what that was - but he has it. It's recorded. Do you get the same thing from this?

And then also from birpu(respectfully snipped):

Originally Posted by birpu
"Initial responders" are LE, obviously. That's who Mehr says he believes. So this has to mean there is a discrepancy in what LE was initially told and what was told afterwards. This statement of his also includes the curious bit about the yard being full of people, which he doesn't believe was a problem. He is talking about the back yard at that point. This is in response to a question about the family's concern that evidence was trampled.

OK. What I get from THIS is that he believes a different story than the "walk to the woods" version. If they had been told about a walk to the woods, surely they would have secured that area right away. This takes us back to the very first reporting where she was "dragged" across the carport. Maybe the walk through the backyard to the woods was added later, and he isn't buying it.

You have made some EXCELLENT POINTS birpu!! This is why thoroughly appreciate and enjoy new "eyes" looking at all the details that many of us have pored over continually these past 6mos to the point that it is just regurgitated so many times that IMO we get to where we scroll on thru when seeing it brought up AGAIN.. so, I always love it when sometimes the new eyes are actually much better at deciphering and pointing excellent and sometimes very relevant and even important details that we've overlooked or just didn't look at it from that particular angle.. So, thanks birpu and am glad you chose to join and post with us here in Holly's Threads(and yes I realize u didn't just join yesterday..lol.. But your definitely a new set of eyes in comparison to many of us).. As I said EXCELLENT POINTS you've made about TBI's Mehr and his comments in this latest Jackson Sun article..

And ITA with your assessment.. It sounds absolutely not only plausible, but probable as well when you look at the entire issue as whole of what the family is now claim and/or accusing of LE, including TBI and Mehr is absolutely correct in his replying to those claims and accusations with statements that not only are the versions of events and claims that are being brought by the family incorrect, inaccurate, or untrue but what he as a member of the TBI has to back up that reply is the original, unedited, with no 6month lapse in memory recall reports that we made at the time of the incident. And those in the days that followed should they happen to change or even begin to change and or add or omit details important to the case.. All of this is on record and he has those reports that he can read that have numerous different witness accounts as to the events as they continued to unfold from 8am of April 13th on.. There was a multitude of varying officers, agents, and citizens that were on the ground, in person at the Bobo residence(scene of the crime) within literally 10 minutes of Holly last being seen on that very same property(of course assuming Clints acct is factual).. That's a huge factor that in a case where the family or members of the family have drastically changed their Accts of the events of that morning and now are even stepping out with critical accusations of the investigators and their investigation tactics used.. This team has the accurate truth, as it truly happened documented from 8am of April 13th on to this present day.. You better believe they are absolutely keeping note and track of the multitude of versions that have been told over these last 6 months, to now prove that the claims and accusations are unfounded..

I, too agree with your opinion on his making reference to his reports showing, therefor literally proving that some or even much of what is Clint's most recent claims to have happened or how it occurred and that those new versions do not jive in any way, shape, or form with what this investigator knows was this young man's original version.. And let me be clear.. I'm not saying that they're speaking of the natural and normal subtle changes that do and will occur in a persons acct of events over the course of the coming days after a traumatic incident's shock begins to wear off.. That IMO is all well and good and is expected.. I believe more accurately what this investigator is talking about is that what he knows to be Clint's story once some time had passed and given as his firmed up account of the events of that morning.. I believe he is referring to that version that is totally different and in no way like what he attempts to claim, state, or allege in his present version..

Again thanks birpu for pointing out these excellent details and your view and opinion on them I, for one totally agree!!

 

[SmoothOperator]

In answer to your question Miztery all I can say is this.. I do not believe that the entire town and surrounding people buy this story any more than we do.. I think many don't know what took place.. Of course in all likelihood there are some in the area that do know, or even have involvement(TBI has never waivered on believing it was likely a local).. Also just as we are now having confirmed by the family they are saying they did stay quiet for so long at the request of LE.. I believe this was asked of the community as well to not speak about it or answer questions about it.. Some here can even attest that the few locals that were posting in the beginning abruptly stopped, with one commenting that their opinion was that LE had it under control and that it was NOT going to help by continuing to discuss it publicly.. I think many have abided by that request as well as many I believe privately discuss amongst themselves their fears or concerns for Holly and what happened to her..

So you see I believe that as far as it seeming everyone is going along with the story I don't believe that's necessarily true.. I believe that many do not know and are very suspicious of versions of that days events, but with Holly still missing they don't know that it'll ever be resolved.. I believe that to be a genuine fear to some as well.. And then you add in what's moo that just as LE requested the family not talk, so, too did they the community.. Therefor IMO I think the factor of fear of the family or retribution from the family isn't the issue(that I know of atleast).. But rather just a combination of things I listed ^above^.. But all in all by far IMO there are many that don't buy the account of the events of that morning.. Just like many of us don't buy it..

All jmo, tho!!

 

[cluciano63]

What kind of entire town can be silenced at the request of LE or anyone else? Stepford?

 

[MizStery]

In answer to your question Miztery all I can say is this.. I do not believe that the entire town and surrounding people buy this story any more than we do.. I think many don't know what took place.. Of course in all likelihood there are some in the area that do know, or even have involvement(TBI has never waivered on believing it was likely a local).. Also just as we are now having confirmed by the family they are saying they did stay quiet for so long at the request of LE.. I believe this was asked of the community as well to not speak about it or answer questions about it.. Some here can even attest that the few locals that were posting in the beginning abruptly stopped, with one commenting that their opinion was that LE had it under control and that it was NOT going to help by continuing to discuss it publicly.. I think many have abided by that request as well as many I believe privately discuss amongst themselves their fears or concerns for Holly and what happened to her..
So you see I believe that as far as it seeming everyone is going along with the story I don't believe that's necessarily true.. I believe that many do not know and are very suspicious of versions of that days events, but with Holly still missing they don't know that it'll ever be resolved.. I believe that to be a genuine fear to some as well.. And then you add in what's moo that just as LE requested the family not talk, so, too did they the community.. Therefor IMO I think the factor of fear of the family or retribution from the family isn't the issue(that I know of atleast).. But rather just a combination of things I listed ^above^.. But all in all by far IMO there are many that don't buy the account of the events of that morning.. Just like many of us don't buy it..
All jmo, tho!!

Thank-you SmoothOperator! You navigated that minefield with superb skill. I appreciate your knowledge of the story. I am going to reread your posts. Please,please keep posting. Like you said to the previous poster... new eyes can indeed bring fresh insight to this story. MOO

 

[Mr. Noatak]

Mr Noatak,
Where on your timeline would you put CB's call to his mother when he looked out and saw the figures in the garage? He actually stated that he called Karen to figure out who was on their property. It would have to be between 7:35 - the flurry of calls - and 7:50, when he said he saw them walking into the woods.

My opinions only, no facts here:

Well, I would not put this in my timeline because it is a personal speculation and because I am still unclear about the account concerning the figures in the garage- but if figures WERE seen in the garage I would pick the 7:40 to 7:45 AM time interval.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

OK---I cannot get past the "SCREAM"--never could.

1) When scream was initially reported couldn't understand how "Clint did not hear it"--we assumed he was sleeping.

2) Now Neighbor's son hears it, but his own mother does not, and son is living with her? ...and she is wide awake. How can that be?

Forgive me--It would seem the SCREAM is the most important factor in the events of that morning. It establishes the beginning of the timeline we are using.
For me, the scream has to make sense before any theory can be expanded.

The neighbors live 350 yards away from the Bobo's, help me understand why 1 person, only, hears this .....and that person just continues on to work. What kind of a relationship does he have with the Bobo's ? I mean why even bother to call his mom if he isn't concerned enough to check himself.

and , again, don't even get me started on the" 10 minute disappearing with No trace of Holly act". I have absolutely no idea how anyone can make sense out of this mess let alone find Holly!:furious:

My opinions only, no facts here:

I interpret (not necessarily correctly) that the son heard the scream outside of his house, but his mother was inside the house. That is my rationale for the seeming discrepancy. But the ten minutes is not the issue in my judgement- it is the twenty minutes from 7:40 to 8:00 AM (when the first police car arrived).

 

[Mr. Noatak]

Great work on the timeline! Also nice to see some new posters here.
Personally, I doubt we will get anything more out of events we have... need some new info to come out...

One question that puzzles me - I would like to see a timeline of events AFTER 8 am. How fast did all the volunteers and other people arrive?

How did so many get the word that something happened so fast?

Could the perp(s) have been involved in getting the word out to get the crime scene flooded with people? Mess up the crime scene - thinking back to the JonBenet Ramsey scene.

My opinions only, no facts here:

I admit that I am puzzled that so many people have been reported to have appeared so quickly. The important thing to take away is that law enforcement was on the scene pronto. Blocking the junction at Swan Johnson and 5 Forks Roads might have been sufficient. I suspect the police may well have done this or at least were patroling that area. Tracking dogs may have been used very early on. Yet nobody was caught. Very strange.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

The scream bothers me too. I just simply do not get how Clint could be sitting in his room to the point that he could hear voices in the garage, but didn't hear a shriek loud enough to reach and alarm neighbors 350+ yards away. I know people here have tried to explain that in various ways saying "sound carries weird" and other stuff, but I am just not comfortable with it.

I also still don't get the timing even within the timeline we have. Like, we have a fairly structured (at least to me-I realize not everyone agrees) timeline for that entire important hour, but the gaps seem insanely significant.

I wonder what type of injury caused a puddle of blood too. A puddle feels like a lot, but a few minutes later she was walking casually into the woods?

Ok, now I am repeating myself.

My opinions only, no facts here:

The scream may have awakened the brother. Sounds that awaken you are oftimes subliminally marginalized. You then remember the sound you first heard after fully waking up (barking dog), but not the sound that actually lifted you from your slumber.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

Hey, what do you all make of this statement from the recent article in the Jackson Sun, Oct 13? I find it highly interesting, especially the part that I capitalized. Which I would have done in boldface, but I don't know how on my Macbook Air. Anyway:

"Tennessee Bureau of Investigation Special Agent John Mehr said the information his agents recorded that morning did not lead him to believe people coming into the yard hindered the investigation.

"I don't believe that was the case," Mehr said. "We have to believe what was told to us by the initial responders, and the other thing is that WE HAVE A WRITTEN RECORD OF WHAT WE SAW AND WHAT WE WERE TOLD THAT MORNING. OTHER PEOPLE MAY TRY TO REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT THEY SAID, BUT WE HAVE A RECORD OF IT. And I have no doubt the initial responders told us the truth." "
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111013/NEWS25/110130314

It sure sounds to me like he is saying Clint's (and others'?) statements are on record - and Clint can now recall something else, but he believes what Clint first said, and is hinting that Clint can't quite remember exactly what that was - but he has it. It's recorded. Do you get the same thing from this?

My opinions only, no facts here:

This is exactly what drives us sleuthers crazy- we must speculate on newspaper reports and whatever, while others hold all of the cards. This is not the way it was meant to be. The way it was meant to be is that ALL of the people have the information and collectively could arise at a solution.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

4:30am*Holly awoke to study for an exam @8am. She studied in her room, alone, on her bed, and with the door shut..(time verified only via Holly's telling her mom later that morning)

5:30am*Dana stops at Holly's bedroom door and speaks to Holly thru her closed door asking did she need any money. She replies yes and he leaves it for her on kitchen counter.

5:35am*Dana leaves for work.

5:35am*Karen awoke and went into Holly's room to speak with her. Holly was studying on her bed.

Just shy of 7:00am*Holly is now studying at the kitchen table. Karen packs Holly's lunch and puts her breakfast in the microwave.

7:00am*Karen leaves to go to work(26 min travel time to work)

7:00am*Hannah calls Holly from her home landline on Holly's cell.. Holly indicates she is going to eat her breakfast and put her shoes on to leave.

Almost 7:30am*Holly's at the kitchen table studying when she receives a call from Drew. He proceeds to tell her of the cousin not recognizing him and wasn't giving permission for he and his dad to hunt on her grandma's 60acres located across the county.

7:30-7:35am*A flurry of calls take place between Holly, Drew, and Karen discussing the incident of Drew's not being recognized to hunt grandma's property.

7:35am*Karen speaks to Holly for the last time via cell phone.<Noted that Clint was still in bed asleep.>.

7:40am*James Barnes(neighbor to the south)Hears a scream from the Bobo's house. He alerts his mom(who lived there as well) and then left for work.

Around 7:40am*Cathy Wise(James' mom) calls Karen at school amd leaves her a msg in the office.

7:45am*Karen receives the neighbor's msg while in the school cafeteria.

7:50am*Clint is awakened by the dog barking. He looks out the window and sees no unfamiliar vehicles, but does see Holly's car. This prompts him to call mom as he'd already looked around and knew Holly was not in the home. He says his call was to ask if Holly had received a ride to school or did not have school that day. Mom's phone is in her classroom so he gets no answer.

At some point AFTER 7:50am**mom after receiving neighbor's msg she uses library phone to call home. Clint tells mom that Holly's car is still home. Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911(routed to Henderson Co)

7:50am*After the call Clint looks out the kitchen window and sees his sister and who he believed to be Drew casually walking towards the woods. This prompts him to call Holly's cell. It rings 5 times and goes to voicemail. He then calls Drew's phone.. It rings 5 times and goes to voicemail.<Noted that this assures Clint that Holly/Drew were indeed together with neither answering their cell phone.>.

7:55am*Karen again calls home with Clint relaying he'd just seen Holly/Drew walking towards the woods. Mom immediately tells Clint that is NOT DREW.call 911.Mom then tells Clint to get a gun and go after the man! Mom immediately hangs up and calls 911 a second time.*<Noted that at this time mom still HAD NOT told Clint that Drew had been on the other side of the county hunting.. THO THAT WAS MUCH EARLIER BUT FACT WAS CLINT STATED AT THAT TIME HE STILL BELIEVED IT TO BE DREW.

8:00am*Clint with loaded gun leaves out the backdoor of the residence, walks thru the open garage attached to the house. He sees a puddle of blood near Holly's car. *<Noted that even at this point Clint was still NOT alarmed, still believed it was Drew, and the blood was from a turkey(tho clearly no turkey in site)>.

About 8:00am*Clint walked towards the woods when Cathy Wise pulls up the driveway( James who heard the scream's mother)*<Noted that the school secretary told Cathy to go to the Bobo home to check> Cathy proceeds to tell Clint about the screams she had heard just some 15-20mins prior.[I personally noted that it does state that "she" heard the scream(s), but could just be the author's choice in words and not meaning it that "she" actually heard the scream(s)]
*<Noted it is at this point that Clint becomes alarmed for the first time> .

About 8:00am*Clint calls 911 at the same time as he heard the engines rev of the quickly approaching patrol cars onto their Swan Johnson Rd.
*<Noted that Clint states that the first officers were on the scene IN LESS THAN 10 mins from the time that he saw his sister/male walking towards the woods>

8:00am*Drew is at his job in Parsons

8:00am-ish*Mom arrives home with Terrie Bromley from school.

8:30am*Dana arrives back home.

What is so very obviously omitted in this version of the timeline is that Clint states he awakes at 7:50am to the dog barking and he immediately goes into his checking out thru the windows and saw that Holly's car was still at home, thus prompting him to call mom and ask had she gotten a ride to school... And gone is the murky details of his looking out the window and seeing 2 "silouhettes" inside the attached garage that were in a kneeling position.. Gone too are the details of his account where he is close enough to the two in the garage that he can actually make out that they had "young sounding" voices(way back at the very beginning even stating he believed the voices soundex as tho they were arguing).. This entire chunk of Clint's account of that morning's events are suddenly gone in this new timeline.. Why? They certainly were hammered on and driven home in the JVM interview with him getting very detailed with the set up and location of the attached garage where he'd first seen and heard two people that morning after being awakened by the dog barking.. His going into further detail that it was due to his not knowing who or why they were in their garage that directly led to his making that initial phonecall to mom that morning.. His wanting to know was it Holly and if so who was she with and what were they doing?.. And then the events of the morning pick back up coinciding with this timeline from his mom returning that first phonecall and his learning Holly should infact have already long since been at school for an early morning important exam..

My opinions only, no facts here:

This is why I cannot put the "figures" or the "figure's talking" in the garage in my timeline. The latest newspaper accounts (hardly official) seem not to include this interesting detail.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

Smooth Operator,thanks for your timeline. Thanks also for the summary. MOO

"Oh what a tangled web we weave,/When first we practise to deceive!"

My opinions only, no facts here:

Your quote is beautiful. Allow me to attempt to top it:

Yesterday this days madness did prepare,
Tomorrow's silence, triumph, or despair!

 

[Mr. Noatak]

n/t, I believe I recall that the last call Karen made to Clint was from the car, using her friend's phone. So she may have left the school right after Clint tells her they are walking to the woods. Maybe gives her another three or four minutes by the time she gets her keys and makes it to the car. Still not enough, though. She did arrive with her friend from school - so she had to have driven the whole distance. This timeline needs a little work.

Speaking of using the friend's phone - this is a little weird, too and I don't understand. She is reached in the cafeteria in person because her phone is in her classroom. Next she uses the library phone because it's closer. Then apparently she rushes back to the classroom (my interpretation) to get her car keys - right? Now, not having had her phone the last few minutes for these incredibly important calls it seems she would have grabbed it too, but maybe she just hastily got her purse and the phone - wasn't in it? So then, everybody is at the house for days and days. When did she go back and get her phone? Maybe someone brought it to her. Those are just the little things I wonder about sometimes.

My opinions only, no facts here:

I did not provide a timeline after the arrival of the first police car, but was aware of the situation that you are discussing. I have been thinking about it, but I admit to being VERY conservative in my personal interpretations. I am pleased that you noticed this particular detail, though. The release of timelines in the past few days has really given a boost to the fellow sleuths.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

His behaviour that morning was more than bizarre, imo. I'd love to have a sit down with him. lol

"Dude, there was no freakin turkey, quit the BS and tell me what happened"

My opinions only, no facts here:

To my good buddies at Websleuths: if you were going to simulate an event you would text, rather than use voice, which is unrecoverable (unless there is a wiretap warrant). I never trust text messages, for the reason that you never can be sure of who was tapping the keys. But I think that most of the contacts in this case, were NOT text. I wish the authorities could at least clear this detail up.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

So.... whatever happened to Holly - I'm assuming she's no longer with us because of the blood and the elapsed time. Is it that hard for LE to find a body? If you have a limited amount of time to hide a body, you can't take it far. I wonder why they haven't found anything, especially if they searched with dogs. I'm having a hard time coming up with how you dispose of a body and leave no trace in so little time. If you put it in a car and drive off, you still have to put it somewhere, and your car will have lots of DNA evidence in it for the police. They checked the ponds. Anybody know where the grandmother's 60 acres is in relation to Bobo's? All I heard was "across the county."

My opinions only, no facts here:

I have proposed a search area in a much earlier post at Websleuths. I suggested this area, centered upon the premise that anybody could have committed the crime. It works for any suspect. Probably incorrect, but based upon logic and not any claims of magical abilities.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

Was Clint stalling? Is that why he came up with the silly preserving crime scene excuse by telling his mom and others not to go into the woods? hmmmm

I still think she was put in a vehicle right there by the carport.

My opinions only, no facts here:

I am very pleased by all of the insightful analyses I have seen at Websleuths in the past day or two. It does not mean the sleuths are correct, but that the sleuths are daring to think outside the box.

I personally also have considered the possibility that the getaway vehicle was parked in the driveway or on the main road close by. Keep an open mind my good friends.