TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #31

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  • #81
http://www.wkrn.com/story/16219984/holly-bobo-update

I think the family spokesperson, Mr. B, is a bit optimistic... " we're hoping that we'll have a conclusion, hopefully, by the end of the year"

Note he did not say this year... (I am being sarcastic there). If he means 2011 a whole lot had better happen in the next three weeks.
 
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  • #83
I also missed this article/clip from last month. I don't recall anyone else posting it.

http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/SheriffAsksHuntersForHelpInBoboSearch-133273618.html

If they are still looking for things Holly or the suspect might have dropped that implies they have not found them...

"We would just ask them to be aware of their surroundings and if they see any articles such as clothing or articles that a lady might carry within her purse, or something of that nature, something that could have been left behind or dropped," said Sheriff Roy Wyatt.

bbm

Would this imply her purse was found but not the contents or she didn't have a purse? Her wallet? :waitasec:
 
  • #84
http://www.wkrn.com/story/16219984/holly-bobo-update

I think the family spokesperson, Mr. B, is a bit optimistic... " we're hoping that we'll have a conclusion, hopefully, by the end of the year"

Note he did not say this year... (I am being sarcastic there). If he means 2011 a whole lot had better happen in the next three weeks.

"The Bobos' are in a wonderful community and there is a lot of support still in Decatur County and in the Parsons area. They are having events periodically for Holly and the ribbons that were there in the beginning are still there [in the community] and they get replaced often," Bromley said

bbm

:waitasec:
 
  • #85
In the Michelle Parker case info about her cell phone being found has been released to the media. I agree with this tactic by LE. Her phone was found under a bridge at Lake Conway therefore anyone out in the public who may have seen anyone near that bridge or lake acting suspicious, etc. can give a tip to police. I realize this case is very different from Holly's, but by publically releasing the info about finding Michelle's phone it is attracting a lot of attention and will probably produce many tips, which is a good thing.

I know LE has not released info about the item belonging to Holly which was found during Easter. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the decision not to release that information. If it is Holly’s phone which was found (or whatever item), why not let the public know?

jmo
 
  • #86
The only thing that I know about this case is that I don't know what in the heck happened [/B]There are so many things that bother me! One major thing that puzzles me is KB's reaction of immediate terror when she got the call. I feel like she had an idea that there was impending danger, just a gut feeling I have. I don't know whether I want her to still be alive so badly that I imagine a gut feeling that she is, or whether it is truly a gut feeling, but I do think she is still alive. Most importantly, I want this case to be solved for her, her family and all the people who have been interested in her and prayed for her, all deserve it.

LOL ....Now thats honesty and hillarious . :great:
 
  • #87
In the Michelle Parker case info about her cell phone being found has been released to the media. I agree with this tactic by LE. Her phone was found under a bridge at Lake Conway therefore anyone out in the public who may have seen anyone near that bridge or lake acting suspicious, etc. can give a tip to police. I realize this case is very different from Holly's, but by publically releasing the info about finding Michelle's phone it is attracting a lot of attention and will probably produce many tips, which is a good thing.

I know LE has not released info about the item belonging to Holly which was found during Easter. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the decision not to release that information. If it is Holly’s phone which was found (or whatever item), why not let the public know?

jmo

My opinions only, no facts here:

I would like to see the State Attorney General press for the release of all PUBLIC information in the Holly Bobo case, but not until early 2012. As I have pointed out in earlier posts, it is possible that the police are waiting to see if the familial DNA bill passes and becomes law at the beginning of 2012. This could help them advance their case.

But, if we find ourselves into March or April, 2012 and still banging our heads against the wall, I would (in my opinion) plead for a release of every detail involving this case. WE paid for the investigation. At some point, I suppose we have the privilege of seeing what we paid for.
 
  • #88
Respectfully snipped from article, for focus:

"It's by far not a cold case by any means," he said during a phone interview Thursday. "[Investigators are] working, they have a task force that is working specifically on Holly's case and we believe there are things that they are working on and we're hoping that we'll have a conclusion, hopefully, by the end of the year."
 
  • #89
My opinions only, no facts here:

I would like to see the State Attorney General press for the release of all PUBLIC information in the Holly Bobo case, but not until early 2012. As I have pointed out in earlier posts, it is possible that the police are waiting to see if the familial DNA bill passes and becomes law at the beginning of 2012. This could help them advance their case.

But, if we find ourselves into March or April, 2012 and still banging our heads against the wall, I would (in my opinion) plead for a release of every detail involving this case. WE paid for the investigation. At some point, I suppose we have the privilege of seeing what we paid for.

In light of what you just posted, I think it interesting that Bromley said this:

"It's by far not a cold case by any means," he said during a phone interview Thursday. "[Investigators are] working, they have a task force that is working specifically on Holly's case and we believe there are things that they are working on and we're hoping that we'll have a conclusion, hopefully, by the end of the year."
 
  • #90
In light of what you just posted, I think it interesting that Bromley said this:

"Hoping and hopefully" Not sure if this is wishful thinking by Bromley or if they really are onto someone.

Everyday is hard for families with missing loved ones, but the holidays must be unbearable.
 
  • #91
In light of what you just posted, I think it interesting that Bromley said this:

My opinions only, no facts here:

I have for some time been considering the possibility that officials have gathered (DNA) skin cell or hair evidence from the limited items recovered, but lack a direct match in their database. If they are allowed to look for familial DNA (close, but not identical) matches in their database, then they might be able to back-trace the DNA to a viable suspect who is closely related to the criminal-DNA that they already have on file. I cannot emphasize enough what a powerful tool this can be for law enforcement.
 
  • #92
If a law is passed, can it be used for cases that took place prior to it being passed? (re: familial DNA, for example)
 
  • #93
If a law is passed, can it be used for cases that took place prior to it being passed? (re: familial DNA, for example)

My opinions only, no facts here:

A good question. The retroactive character of legislation should always be considered. I think such a law would fully apply to previous cases because it does not change the penalties for those already charged and/or convicted. But lawyers will ultimately hash it out.
 
  • #94
My opinions only, no facts here:

A good question. The retroactive character of legislation should always be considered. I think such a law would fully apply to previous cases because it does not change the penalties for those already charged and/or convicted. But lawyers will ultimately hash it out.

I agree that this law would be a useful tool for LE- but have a hard time with the invasion of privacy, showing cause, and assumption of innocence. It's a big 'ole can of worms to me. But I'll be interested to see what happens in January.

At any rate, I am curious as to why you feel it is so important in Holly's case? Familial DNA could very well have already been taken with consent from the 'owners'. But we would have no way of knowing that at this point.
Why do you think it would have such an impact on Holly's case?
 
  • #95
My opinions only, no facts here:

A good question. The retroactive character of legislation should always be considered. I think such a law would fully apply to previous cases because it does not change the penalties for those already charged and/or convicted. But lawyers will ultimately hash it out.

I would assume like current DNA evidence it would be able to applied to old cases. Look at a lot of cold cases going back decades that have been reeopened with the advent of modern DNA testing and analysis
 
  • #96
I agree that this law would be a useful tool for LE- but have a hard time with the invasion of privacy, showing cause, and assumption of innocence. It's a big 'ole can of worms to me. But I'll be interested to see what happens in January.

At any rate, I am curious as to why you feel it is so important in Holly's case? Familial DNA could very well have already been taken with consent from the 'owners'. But we would have no way of knowing that at this point.
Why do you think it would have such an impact on Holly's case?

I was wondering the same thing. Since Holly was abducted from her home, and her body has not been found, how would the family's DNA have any impact on the case? Their DNA is going to be all over the place anyway.
 
  • #97
I was wondering the same thing. Since Holly was abducted from her home, and her body has not been found, how would the family's DNA have any impact on the case? Their DNA is going to be all over the place anyway.

I don't think familial DNA has anything to do with a family member unless the family member already has a their DNA profile in the database for a crime already committed.

More on Familial DNA

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/30/us-crime-dna-familial-idUSTRE72T2QS20110330

http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/07/scientists-explain-how-familial.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_profiling#Familial_DNA_searching
 
  • #98
:waitasec:

Right...but then why the need to match in CODIS?
It's already there. It's just the question of obtaining samples from a crime scene without requiring a warrant, to run against samples already in CODIS. So I guess this would be helpful in Holly's case if, for example, there was DNA- not Holly's, but familial and already in CODIS- intermingled with the crime scene- that was already not ruled out by DNA at the scene?

Idk. It's kind of confusing to me. I'll stick with K9's, lol.


I don't think familial DNA has anything to do with a family member unless the family member already has a their DNA profile in the database for a crime already committed.

More on Familial DNA

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/30/us-crime-dna-familial-idUSTRE72T2QS20110330

http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2010/07/scientists-explain-how-familial.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_profiling#Familial_DNA_searching
 
  • #99
I was wondering the same thing. Since Holly was abducted from her home, and her body has not been found, how would the family's DNA have any impact on the case? Their DNA is going to be all over the place anyway.

It would be the suspect's family. Perhaps if Jim Bob was the suspect but NOT in the data base, he could be identified or narrowed down because of similar, familiar matches to his Brother Joe Bob, etc.
 
  • #100
I really don't see how investigators do their jobs year after year. I get so frustrated and easily discouraged.

I have followed Holly's case since the day she was abducted...and read those headlines: "Home Invasion, Young Woman Abducted"
I stated earlier (was that 20 threads ago, or 21?) that I rarely read the term "home invasion" in the press. That is why this case really stood out to me in the beginning. I was following the Petit family ordeal at the time and that is what I was thinking in those early days.

We have no firm information about what was found in Holly's case, no release of the 911 calls, and the few facts we know have been twisted and turned every way possible, as we try to figure out what actually happened to Holly that fateful day.

I feel like I am riding a merry-go-round. I get sick to my stomach and dizzy, demanding to get off the ride now and then. During those days, I take a complete break from Websleuths. I let my mind (and heart) rest. But somehow, the merry-go-round looks appealing once again. I hear the music from the distance....and decide to jump back on. Sometimes I select to ride the painted horse, other times the bejeweled elephant....round and round and up and down we go. When I get tired of the up and down, I climb down and sit in one of those benches that seems safe and stable...gazing out into the crowd of bystanders, we are still going around....and still going nowhere.

Holly, its been almost 8 months. We have not forgotten you. We are looking for you.
Rest assured, you are loved.....
 
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