TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #32

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  • #761
Saddest thing is, almost all of the posts we make here could have been made a year ago, and we'd never know the difference...JMO
 
  • #762
It would be extremely ironic for those flurry of calls to be around the same time Holly left for school and yet for none of them to be related to this case.

So what if Drew is hunting on MawMaw's land? He and Holly have dated for a while...and surely MawMaw knows Drew and his dad.

Part of me wants to believe the calls were about the hunting....but the logical part knows this can't be so.

I think if Drew planned a hunting trip on grandma's property, Clint would have known about it. They had spoken about hunting the night before and IIRC, he couldn't go because he had a school paper to write that morning.

If he knew Drew was hunting on grandma's property, he wouldn't assume the man in camouflage was Drew.

Something is not making sense.
 
  • #763
I disagree with your last paragraph. IMO, TBI and FBI's priority is to save the victim or find out what happened to her. As much as we want to believe they might want to protect the witness and come up with some sort of cover up story for Clint, in reality that just doesn't happen.

IMO, the story is ever changing and evolving and I don't know why but it's not from LE.

Also, we have 2 versions (IMO) of what ensued immediately after LE arrived at the scene.

I agree N/T on the BBM, what I meant was they do not want the perp to know that Clint actually saw him, not until they get enough evidence to charge him? I think that is a possibility, yes?

You are right, yet another conflicting story even in the aftermath. What a mess.
 
  • #764
Saddest thing is, almost all of the posts we make here could have been made a year ago, and we'd never know the difference...JMO

Well at least we have an alleged "cousin" in the picture now. The focus has been taken off the boyfriend for a while......
 
  • #765
Well at least we have an alleged "cousin" in the picture now. The focus has been taken off the boyfriend for a while......

Well, there has always been a cousin...now there are two...:)
 
  • #766
  • #767
Except we can't talk about the cousins here.
 
  • #768
there is an obvious pre-story to the day Holly was abducted. we know nothing about the hours and days leading up to her abduction. there inlies the answers.
 
  • #769
there is an obvious pre-story to the day Holly was abducted. we know nothing about the hours and days leading up to her abduction. there inlies the answers.

I liked the way you phrased that about there being a pre-story! It's something in many cases and especially Holly's we just don't get access to like LE does.
 
  • #770
If LE has access to the nature of events leading up to Holly's disappearance, it doesn't seem to have done them much good.

Still, such knowledge would be good to have.

Again, an exhortation to anyone viewing WS from the Parsons/Darden area: please join WS and grace us with your knowledge.
 
  • #771
After reading the Jackson Sun article again, one thing that really stands out to me is her friend and fellow student saying that Holly usually gets to class at 7:55 am. An abductor waiting for her in the garage would probably have to know when to expect her to walk out of the house to her car. So there's a good chance he knew her schedule. This does make me wonder if she was abducted by somebody connected with nursing school or general UT-Martin Parsons campus, who had seen Holly arrive at the school at 7:55 multiple times. Obviously there are other people who could have known her schedule but I think somebody associated with the school could have a firm idea of her schedule and could be a strong possibility.
 
  • #772
This case is like a novel with an unreliable narrator.
OMG - True! It's like those scenes in Wuthering Heights told by the maid who thinks she understands what everyone is thinking and feeling, only she misunderstands and gets it all wrong. (And yet we follow her along because she is the narrator, and at the end you wonder whether the reader is just too influenced by her narrow opinions) There's some big part of this picture we aren't seeing, probably because someone doesn't want us to see it.
 
  • #773
After reading the Jackson Sun article again, one thing that really stands out to me is her friend and fellow student saying that Holly usually gets to class at 7:55 am. An abductor waiting for her in the garage would probably have to know when to expect her to walk out of the house to her car. So there's a good chance he knew her schedule. This does make me wonder if she was abducted by somebody connected with nursing school or general UT-Martin Parsons campus, who had seen Holly arrive at the school at 7:55 multiple times. Obviously there are other people who could have known her schedule but I think somebody associated with the school could have a firm idea of her schedule and could be a strong possibility.

Well that and the fact that LE searched the area around the front of the school including in the road. I forget if they recovered anything (not that they said what was found). I assume whoever did this was observing Holly for a bit, which also reduces the chances that it was someone known to the family (like Drew, etc. that people seem to speculate so wildly about).
 
  • #774
Well that and the fact that LE searched the area around the front of the school including in the road. I forget if they recovered anything (not that they said what was found). I assume whoever did this was observing Holly for a bit, which also reduces the chances that it was someone known to the family (like Drew, etc. that people seem to speculate so wildly about).

Ah, yes. I forgot about that. The phone was supposedly found somewhere just north of the school, maybe at an old concrete plant. AMW did confirm the phone was found, the location their map showed was more northwest (but I don't trust AMW to get details exactly right). And then the area in front of the school was searched by volunteers on their hands and knees.

Also, the AMW espisode is available to watch now online:

http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/americas-most-wanted/video/
 
  • #775
OMG - True! It's like those scenes in Wuthering Heights told by the maid who thinks she understands what everyone is thinking and feeling, only she misunderstands and gets it all wrong. (And yet we follow her along because she is the narrator, and at the end you wonder whether the reader is just too influenced by her narrow opinions) There's some big part of this picture we aren't seeing, probably because someone doesn't want us to see it.
Along with many other interesting examples arranged by genre, Wiki includes this breakdown of that phenomenon, "the unreliable narrator":
William Riggan analysed in his study discernable types of unreliable narrators, focusing on the first-person narrator as this is the most common kind of unreliable narration. Adapted from his findings is the following list:
The Pícaro: a narrator who is characterized by exaggeration and bragging. The first example probably being the soldier in Plautus’ comedy Miles Gloriosus. Examples in modern literature are Moll Flanders, Simplicius Simplicissimus or Felix Krull.
The Madman: A narrator who has severe mental illness such a schizophrenia or paranoia. Examples include Poe’s Montresor in ' The Cask of Amontillado’ or Barbara Covett in Notes on a Scandal.
The Clown: A narrator who does not take narrations seriously and consciously plays with conventions, truth and the reader’s expectations. A good example is Tristram Shandy.
The Naíf: A narrator whose perception is immature or limited through their point of view. Examples include Huckleberry Finn or Holden Caulfield.
This typology is surely not exhaustive and cannot claim to cover the whole spectrum of unreliable narration in its entirety or even only the first-person narrator. Further research in this area has been called for.
The opening events of our tale - those of the early morning of 13 April 2011 - are narrated chiefly by Holly's brother Clint. Which type might he be, of the four above - the naif, perhaps? Whichever, his account(s) have certainly skewed viewer perceptions.

Intentionally?
 
  • #776
Along with many other interesting examples arranged by genre, Wiki includes this breakdown of that phenomenon, "the unreliable narrator":

The opening events of our tale - those of the early morning of 13 April 2011 - are narrated chiefly by Holly's brother Clint. Which type might he be, of the four above - the naif, perhaps? Whichever, his account(s) have certainly skewed viewer perceptions.

Intentionally?



I vote for the clown!!!!
 
  • #777
Just coming in here to say I saw a large poster of HOLLY on the back of an 18-Wheeler yesterday on the interstate. I had never seen one of her or any other of our missing but hopefully there are a whole lot more trucks / drivers out there who are participating.
I'm among the "jaded" group but HOPE and Pray that Holly will be found.
Many of you who keep her threads active and are ever vigilant to help are to be thanked, again and again.
 
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  • #779
Ah, yes. I forgot about that. The phone was supposedly found somewhere just north of the school, maybe at an old concrete plant. AMW did confirm the phone was found, the location their map showed was more northwest (but I don't trust AMW to get details exactly right). And then the area in front of the school was searched by volunteers on their hands and knees.

Also, the AMW espisode is available to watch now online:

http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/americas-most-wanted/video/

Thanks for posting the link to the video. After waiting so long to view it, it says "the video you are trying to watch cannot be view from your current country or location".

I guess I have to move to another country. :innocent:
 
  • #780
Just coming in here to say I saw a large poster of HOLLY on the back of an 18-Wheeler yesterday on the interstate. I had never seen one of her or any other of our missing but hopefully there are a whole lot more trucks / drivers out there who are participating.
I'm among the "jaded" group but HOPE and Pray that Holly will be found.
Many of you who keep her threads active and are ever vigilant to help are to be thanked, again and again.

Did you get a chance to check out the license plate? What State was it from? TIA

Just curious.
 
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