TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden; believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #35

[Snowbunny]

I can tell you this much, when I lived in Tennessee as hot as it got our doors and windows were shut and the a/c was running the majority of the time and you couldn't hear much going on outside. Also is it possible that Holly mentioned something to her mom that maybe a certain person she may have not known seemed to be showing up everywhere she went and appeared to be stalking her and maybe that's why Karen panicked? The family may not even know who this person was but there may have been incidents that may have occurred up to this point that Holly had mentioned prior to her being taken that cause her mom to be alarmed.

SNOW BUNNY, I agree with you as really strange as this case is, it seems to me your premise is exactly what I've thought all along.

The fear and urgency from Karen instructing Clint to go out, get a gun and help your sister sounds exactly like Karen, Mom both knew beforehand from Kelly telling them that there was a strange guy stalking or appearing around her lately.

I can visualize the whole scenario the day she disappeared. Then Clint, probably half-asleep, running outside and greeted soon by LE and the neighbor.

What's odd, is I'm picking tidbits of posts here saying LE found a HOTEL KEY, HOLLY'S PURSE, SOME OF HER BELONGINGS. And then a poster named FOXFIRE who said he/she was on the search for Holly and had conversations with LE. One of those conversations, Foxfire said LE told him they know who abducted Holly and also there was something about a haven or burial grounds he took her?

If anyone can possibly verify or clarify any of this, please do so. Thanks, Happy Holidays.:seeya:

I hate to tell you this, but LE wouldn't share that kind of stuff with the general public. My son is a deputy and I, too, work LE for a bit and I know better than that. Sounds like someone spreading rumors to me.

 

[Xavier]

Until LE can solve this case, if at all possible, I 'm going to share other WS posters belief that this crazy perp stalked Holli as his prized trophy girlfriend because kidnapping is the only way this neanderthal could probably have a woman in his life

And I believe Holli's living somewhere far, far away with this guy

This case is so frustrating especially when the perp and Holli were seen slowly walking into the woods and possibly easily followed and caught?

I just can't understand how the perp and Holli could've just walked out of sight and Clint, the neighbor and LE who were all at the Bobo home fairly fast, stopped from pursuing them, especially when Clint was told the perp was not Holli's boyfriend and she could be in danger ?

Anyhoo, Ya'll have a terrific Holidays...:seeya:

 

[Carla Lashelle]

You know I wouldn't be surprised if Holly was not involved with a killer LIKE this guy...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02/man-charged-in-alaska-barista-death-kills-self/?intcmp=trending

He is suspected in abductions and murders in states ranging from Alaska to Vermont and down to Texas... The Alaska Abduction reminded me of Holly a bit... girl walked away fro m her coffee shop job with a hooded stranger ...

 

[Xavier]

You know I wouldn't be surprised if Holly was not involved with a killer LIKE this guy...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02/man-charged-in-alaska-barista-death-kills-self/?intcmp=trending

He is suspected in abductions and murders in states ranging from Alaska to Vermont and down to Texas... The Alaska Abduction reminded me of Holly a bit... girl walked away fro m her coffee shop job with a hooded stranger ...

CARLA LASHELLE -- Great story find. What a tragedy this story was.

Yes, I agree 100% Holli Bob's abductor could be a perp like this one in the story.

Thanks

 

[Snowbunny]

In the beginning Mark Furman stated that the dogs didn't track Holly beyond the tree line, so with that said, I don't believe for one second that Holly was ever lead away through the woods. I do believe that it is quite possible that Clint was asleep at the time and was awaken by the little dog in the house barking. Its also quite possible that he saw what happened to Holly and who was responsible. Several posters have mentioned that they thought it was odd that LE put Clint into a squad car to write out his statement, but could it be possible that they put him in the squad car so that the media and the general public couldn't ask him questions and LE told him not to say a word? Not unusual at all to say the least. Several posters have stated that they thought the interview with JVM and Clint was strange, but I ask you this--what if LE told him not to talk due to the fact that it could jeopardize the investigation or put Holly's life in jeopardy? To me Clint appears to be someone who is deeply traumatized by what has happened. What if there had been more than one individual involved and all involved had a weapon, would you be crazy enough to come running out of the house with a gun? Not likely. Even LE will not approach an armed perp without backup. That's standard procedure. I personally think Clint saw what happened and was told by LE not to talk. I also believe its quite possible that the perp(s) drove right up the driveway and out the driveway with Holly which would explain why the dogs couldn't track her beyond the tree line.

 

[~n/t~]

Hi Foxfire,glad you're back

 

[~n/t~]

In the beginning Mark Furman stated that the dogs didn't track Holly beyond the tree line, so with that said, I don't believe for one second that Holly was ever lead away through the woods. I do believe that it is quite possible that Clint was asleep at the time and was awaken by the little dog in the house barking. Its also quite possible that he saw what happened to Holly and who was responsible. Several posters have mentioned that they thought it was odd that LE put Clint into a squad car to write out his statement, but could it be possible that they put him in the squad car so that the media and the general public couldn't ask him questions and LE told him not to say a word? Not unusual at all to say the least. Several posters have stated that they thought the interview with JVM and Clint was strange, but I ask you this--what if LE told him not to talk due to the fact that it could jeopardize the investigation or put Holly's life in jeopardy? To me Clint appears to be someone who is deeply traumatized by what has happened. What if there had been more than one individual involved and all involved had a weapon, would you be crazy enough to come running out of the house with a gun? Not likely. Even LE will not approach an armed perp without backup. That's standard procedure. I personally think Clint saw what happened and was told by LE not to talk. I also believe its quite possible that the perp(s) drove right up the driveway and out the driveway with Holly which would explain why the dogs couldn't track her beyond the tree line.

If your theory is true, then this whole article was made up? I'm not saying you're wrong in your thought because I have also pondered whether the perp drove up straight to the house and grabbed Holly but then we have this published version in which it appears the family is criticizing LE or at least questioning what they did NOT do. IMO

But Clint said people walked all around the area where he last saw his sister and that this was one of his largest concerns.

"As I was writing my statement, I guess I kind of had a feeling that we might not get Holly back right away," Clint said. "So I was trying to preserve the crime scene and keep it from being disrupted because I knew the only thing we might have would be footprints, and I knew if someone stepped on them, then that's ruined.

"After I had stopped Mom and a few people and said, 'Don't walk up the trail and in the woods,' people started walking up there, so I just sat down in the car and continued writing my statement out," he said. "I wasn't going to be able to stop everyone who was coming up here from walking where they had been."

Holly's mother, Karen, said she and several others ran into the woods as soon as they arrived, before they were told to turn back.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...family-questions-early-handling-investigation

 

[ChristYTN]

STEVE -- DJ Jones who was charged recently for the Megan Sharpton murder, was someone I suspected too. But that crazy perp actually knew and was hassling the Sharpton family, ie, bullet holes riddled their Home FOR SALE sign ,verbal threats, etc.

Both Megan and Holly live fairly close, are pretty young blondes and both were in nursing school. But, he could be a suspect but I doubt it. Because the Sharpton murder seemed to me to be a feud and isolated.

Donnie Jones did not 'know' Megans family. It was not a 'feud' with her family.

His wife knew Megan briefly from school. She is the one that got Donnie the 'information' to lure Megan.
He harassed her family after the fact because they were so vocal. His past MO was to harass and threaten into not pressing charges.
(apparently it worked on at least one victim)

He was working for a company that built hotels and there is a hotel that went up in Hollys area at the time she disappeared.
He was known to acquire keys to hotels often to spend the night while working. So...it's very very possible that Donnie F Jones is a major suspect in Hollys case.

Like Steve said, it's time for him to talk. I hate for him to get a lesser sentence in any of his crimes, considering he's been able to plea out of at least 21 prior felonies....but....if he can provide answers in other cases...I wanna know what he has to say.

 

[ChristYTN]

Forgive me, it wasn't being built..it was being remodeled.
Days Inn in Martin TN...refurbished/remodeled in 2011.

 

[wfgodot]

Missing!! > The Unidentified TN - Parsons - WhtMale (UP 5279), 34-56, In Backwaters of Beach Rvr., May-06


Of local interest at least. Sad when a case is so cold that a UID from '06 replaces actual on-topic thread info.

 

[reedus23]

My thoughts in red.

In the beginning Mark Furman stated that the dogs didn't track Holly beyond the tree line, so with that said, I don't believe for one second that Holly was ever lead away through the woods. Mark Furman got his info from a dispatcher or a clerk, not from someone in the know in the investigation so in all fairness we have no idea if the dogs picked up and followed a scent and if so, how far or where to.I do believe that it is quite possible that Clint was asleep at the time and was awaken by the little dog in the house barking. Yes, I believe that is what he has consistently stated.Its also quite possible that he saw what happened to Holly and who was responsible. Yes I believe he has consistently stated he saw what happened, or at least parts of it and stated he saw who was responsible and was therefore able to give a description of the male in camo.Several posters have mentioned that they thought it was odd that LE put Clint into a squad car to write out his statement, but could it be possible that they put him in the squad car so that the media and the general public couldn't ask him questions and LE told him not to say a word?That more than likely is exactly why they put him in there. The first thing LE wants to do is somewhat isolate witnesses and certainly don't want them talking to the media before they have talked to them. Nothing unusual there. Not unusual at all to say the least. Agreed. Several posters have stated that they thought the interview with JVM and Clint was strange, but I ask you this--what if LE told him not to talk due to the fact that it could jeopardize the investigation or put Holly's life in jeopardy? Exactly.To me Clint appears to be someone who is deeply traumatized by what has happened. Traumatized and second guessing himself as to what he could have done. The guilt he feels has to be almost overwhelming.What if there had been more than one individual involved and all involved had a weapon, would you be crazy enough to come running out of the house with a gun? Clint only saw one man in camo, wearing camo. That's not to exclude the possibility that others were involved and he just didn't see them.Not likely. Even LE will not approach an armed perp without backup. That's standard procedure. I personally think Clint saw what happened and was told by LE not to talk. Agreed.I also believe its quite possible that the perp(s) drove right up the driveway and out the driveway with Holly which would explain why the dogs couldn't track her beyond the tree line.

Sorry for all the red but you had a lot of good thoughts in there and I thought it would be easiest to put in my two cents that way.

 

[Xavier]

Donnie Jones did not 'know' Megans family. It was not a 'feud' with her family.

His wife knew Megan briefly from school. She is the one that got Donnie the 'information' to lure Megan.
He harassed her family after the fact because they were so vocal. His past MO was to harass and threaten into not pressing charges.
(apparently it worked on at least one victim)

He was working for a company that built hotels and there is a hotel that went up in Hollys area at the time she disappeared.
He was known to acquire keys to hotels often to spend the night while working. So...it's very very possible that Donnie F Jones is a major suspect in Hollys case.

Like Steve said, it's time for him to talk. I hate for him to get a lesser sentence in any of his crimes, considering he's been able to plea out of at least 21 prior felonies....but....if he can provide answers in other cases...I wanna know what he has to say.

Thanks for some local insight ChristyTN.

 

[Foxfire]

This simply can't be verified -- it's a combination of rumor, hearsay, and fabrication from (to be polite) an unreliable source. Please note the post from n/t above which debunks the claims. It basically fails the 'Websleuths rules of evidence', so I'm not sure why it's even being rehashed.

Oh, and there's been nothing written anywhere in MSM or any reliable media about a 'haven' or 'burial grounds'. Where did you find that? Please provide a link!

RE: it's a combination of rumor, hearsay, and fabrication from (to be polite) an unreliable source

Do you mind elaborating on this comment?

 

[Xavier]

In the beginning Mark Furman stated that the dogs didn't track Holly beyond the tree line, so with that said, I don't believe for one second that Holly was ever lead away through the woods. I do believe that it is quite possible that Clint was asleep at the time and was awaken by the little dog in the house barking. Its also quite possible that he saw what happened to Holly and who was responsible. Several posters have mentioned that they thought it was odd that LE put Clint into a squad car to write out his statement, but could it be possible that they put him in the squad car so that the media and the general public couldn't ask him questions and LE told him not to say a word? Not unusual at all to say the least. Several posters have stated that they thought the interview with JVM and Clint was strange, but I ask you this--what if LE told him not to talk due to the fact that it could jeopardize the investigation or put Holly's life in jeopardy? To me Clint appears to be someone who is deeply traumatized by what has happened. What if there had been more than one individual involved and all involved had a weapon, would you be crazy enough to come running out of the house with a gun? Not likely. Even LE will not approach an armed perp without backup. That's standard procedure. I personally think Clint saw what happened and was told by LE not to talk. I also believe its quite possible that the perp(s) drove right up the driveway and out the driveway with Holly which would explain why the dogs couldn't track her beyond the tree line.

Thanks SnowBunny

 

[Xavier]

This is a really interesting link, it could be repetitive though


http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/2...s-early-handling-investigation?nclick_check=1






"A lot of people stuck their nose in law enforcement business that day, and too many people showed up there at one time," Sheriff Wyatt said. "We were trying to keep people away as best as we could, but when you have a few hundred people showing up, it is hard to do."

Robert Middleton is a hunter who lives in Decatur County. He says he is familiar with the area and that he helped with the search when volunteers were allowed to assist law enforcement.

"It was so disorganized I got disgusted," Middleton said. "I've hunted all my life, and I can tell if someone has been in my deer stand two weeks before, but what happened in those woods was a mess. Volunteers were trying to help, but at the same time some of them didn't know what they were doing.

Dana Bobo, Holly's father, said so many people walked around the house and close to the garage where a puddle of blood was that he took it upon himself to secure the area.




"I went to my truck and got some tape out and used our back lawn chairs and my flagging tape, which was pink, and I taped off the whole garage myself because there were so many people wandering around and walking wherever they wanted to look at stuff," Dana said. "I set up chairs, and I taped off both entrances to the garage myself."

Dana also said he begged law enforcement to put up roadblocks and to his knowledge the only road blocked off was Swan Johnson Road, where the Bobos live.

Tennessee Bureau of Investigation Special Agent John Mehr said the information his agents recorded that morning did not lead him to believe people coming into the yard hindered the investigation.

 

[wishuwerehere]

I don’t recall this being asked (though it probably was since everything else has been asked in this case, but I don't remember an answer):

Was the name/logo of the motel and/or a room number reflected on the allegedly found motel key card?

TIA

 

[Xavier]

I don’t recall this being asked (though it probably was since everything else has been asked in this case, but I don't remember an answer):

Was the name/logo of the motel and/or a room number reflected on the allegedly found motel key card?

TIA

Well there was reportedly a hotel key found.

There is also someone who's been caught for another murder in the area who did construction work on hotels and very possibly was working in Holli's area.

 

[Xavier]

[
QUOTE=ChristYTN;8605232]Forgive me, it wasn't being built..it was being remodeled.
Days Inn in Martin TN...refurbished/remodeled in 2011.[/QUOTE]




So Jones was working on a hotel remodeling site in Martin TN at the time Holli disappeared?

And Martin TN is close to the Bobo's?

Is this correct?

 

[wishuwerehere]

[
QUOTE=ChristYTN;8605232]So Jones was working on a hotel remodeling site in Martin TN at the time Holli disappeared?

And Martin TN is close to the Bobo's?

Is this correct?

Roughly 80 miles.

I'd like to know whether the motel key card was blank or if some info (name of motel/logo/room #) was legible on the card.

 

[Xavier]

Roughly 80 miles.

I'd like to know whether the motel key card was blank or if some info (name of motel/logo/room #) was legible on the card.

Thanks Wish --- I'm coming to the conclusion Holly met the perp or the perp tried to hit on her somewhere in the neighborhood, maybe even at the nursing school, since it's likley full of cute young women

The perp stalked her.

Holly told her Mom, Dad about it and they said stay away from this guy

Then the perp shows up in morning , he knows her schedule, he surprises her in their carport area, maybe stabs her lightly to show he's serious, and hustles her off in the woods on maybe some type of motorcycle, RV for a fast getaway

I'd hate to think if she died the same brutal manner of Megan Sharpton , who had a similar abduction not too far from the Bobo's