Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #6

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  • #21
The "good morning" / "good night" posts are part of the grooming process. It's a way for him to tell her that she's the 1st and last thing on his mind.
IMO
 
  • #22
Yeah, maybe. I just don't see him teaming up with anyone at all. It's just my gut feeling based on a lot of different things. But of course, it's possible.

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Not necessarily teaming up with someone, but a sympathetic few that might help give him cover.

I mean they are hiding somewhere or it is the worst case scenario. With really no confirmed sightings after Decatur, they have to be off the grid or someone helping. Since ET's sister has said roughing it on the woods isn't ET's thing and this wasn't spur of the moment, it seems like there had to be a plan.

Also it seems to me that he is the type that would have to talk about this to someone other than her and he could have hooked up with someone online that thinks like him.
 
  • #23
Yeah, maybe. I just don't see him teaming up with anyone at all. It's just my gut feeling based on a lot of different things. But of course, it's possible.

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No team in my opinion either. He wants her all to himself.
 
  • #24
The "good morning" / "good night" posts are part of the grooming process. It's a way for him to tell her that she's the 1st and last thing on his mind.
IMO

Thanks,I was thinking along these same lines.I wasn't trying to be humorous earlier and got laughed at.
 
  • #25
What is that all about? I missed that thing...

There's an image on her IG. It shows letters used for crafting in a store arranged to say "send nudes."
 
  • #26
One thing they may have found is pics of her on his computer one ig pic she posted said send nudes and her words under it were -when I go to Walmart dated March 10

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Picked up on that. I think that they shared passwords and he had access to her account. That could be a message from him to her so it would not be traced to him.
Many of the pictures that are posted on each IG account look similar.
The Walmart angle may be a good one to keep monitoring, hopefully the WM security is monitoring their surveillance cameras both in store and parking areas.

If they do go out in public like to a WM my guess is they won't be seen together, likely she would enter first, he would park in an adjacent parking area (gas station) and walk across. Not being seen in the same place together but always near. Hopefully these other places are looking for something unusual like someone parking in their area and going to another place.

This IG thing in public is their way of being secretive yet doing it right in front of everyone. Adds to the excitement but I think this will eventually be the undoing as someone will spot them.

MMO
 
  • #27
IMO, Walmart has nothing at all to do with this.
JMO
 
  • #28
No team in my opinion either. He wants her all to himself.

I don't see him teaming up. Mostly because I believe he is a narcissist and they see themselves as superior and he likely would not feel he needs any help and it would interfere with his control issues.
 
  • #29
has anyone thought of the possibility of them going to mexico? I know they were possibly sighted in corpus Christie last week, but not been confirmed
 
  • #30
has anyone thought of the possibility of them going to mexico? I know they were possibly sighted in corpus Christie last week, but not been confirmed

Yes. I don't know what you need document-wise to enter but it's definitely easier to enter than it is to leave and return to the US. I remember LE watching Mexico entry cams when they were checking out the McStay family's disappearance. Maybe they are doing it with this case too.
 
  • #31
has anyone thought of the possibility of them going to mexico? I know they were possibly sighted in corpus Christie last week, but not been confirmed

:welcome:
 
  • #32
if they both have passports, at least or some fake documents I'm pretty sure that's all that would be required to enter. But you would have to have some guts or changed both of their appearances to attempt it with the whole country looking for them I would think
 
  • #33
if they both have passports, at least or some fake documents I'm pretty sure that's all that would be required to enter. But you would have to have some guts or changed both of their appearances to attempt it with the whole country looking for them I would think

Well, he does have guts. It takes guts to groom and abduct a teenager. As far as changing appearances, that's easy to do.
 
  • #34
Remember when we were discussing the ig posts of the gluten food on their pages, and I suggested that even though it was back in Dec. he might have been planning on abducting her then? It has been confirmed that they were seen together over Christmas.

There is possibility that he was planning on taking her whether she was willing or not. If that is the case, he very well could have been preparing for months in advance.
 
  • #35
Romantic emails between missing Tennessee girl and teacher send mixed messages

The mixed messages could possibly be the result of what’s known as the “grooming process.” According to the National Association of Adult Survivors of Child Abuse (NAASC), pedophiles will lure minors in initially by fulfilling an emotional need of the victim with excessive attention and flattery.

Once the predator establishes a strong sense of trust with the victim, he’ll begin lowering the victim’s inhibitions. Gradually, as the grooming continues, the predator often starts the abuse, with the threat that if the victim tells someone, the relationship will end. The victim can get caught between being afraid of the suspect, but also afraid of losing the attention and affection that the relationship brings.

http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/03/...nnessee-girl-and-teacher-send-mixed-messages/
 
  • #36
Remember when we were discussing the ig posts of the gluten food on their pages, and I suggested that even though it was back in Dec. he might have been planning on abducting her then? It has been confirmed that they were seen together over Christmas.

There is possibility that he was planning on taking her whether she was willing or not. If that is the case, he very well could have been preparing for months in advance.

I agree with you. This was not a spur of the moment thing, IMO.
 
  • #37
Yes. I don't know what you need document-wise to enter but it's definitely easier to enter than it is to leave and return to the US. I remember LE watching Mexico entry cams when they were checking out the McStay family's disappearance. Maybe they are doing it with this case too.
But if they ditched his car and have anouther can they may not see it's them unless they have entry cams that face the windshield and not just the back of the car

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  • #38
The reason I don't suspect TC using the Dark Net or rallying help from other sex offenders is I believe he is thoroughly entrenched in his hero complex. I don't think he considers himself a sex offender. I think he has slowly rationalized his behavior as unconventional but necessary to save her. He is in his shining moment now (in his head)--he is the FBI agent, CIA operative, rogue vigilante saving someone he admires.
He is a creep, he is a nut job.
 
  • #39
Kat confirmed that Elizabeth's other sister did not question her when she said to call the cops if she wasn't home by 6:00. Also, according to what I've read, all Elizabeth said was that she was going to see a friend. So, in one sense, she was ok with going to meet him but on the other hand she was afraid of what was going to happen. I'm just thinking out loud here and trying to make sense of it all...
 
  • #40
I don't see the dark web angle

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There is speculation based on what was talking about in the school. Right now there is no proof
 
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