Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #6

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  • #61
I recently found an individual on Social Media (instagram and Facebook) with no posts, but many followers and a photo that looks very much like Elizabeth Thomas.

However the name is a mix of Tad Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas. Because of the forum rules, I do not think I can post a link and/or photo that the two accounts contain.

Does anyone have an idea as to how I might share this w/o breaking the forum rules?

thank you
 
  • #62
Some of you know that I have developed and continue to see the Mexico theory is a real possibility.

However, Mexico is all about the easy border and the access to Central America.

In other words, I don't think Mexico is the ultimate destination.
 
  • #63
I think this is about an adult with emotional problems crossing many lines. I don't think he is working with anyone else.

The above is my opinion only.

I think he's too much of a narcissist to work with anyone else...it seems like he has a God complex. He wants ET to see him as a sort of savior and I don't see him sharing that spotlight with anyone.
 
  • #64
The fact that he was looking for work in a semi-nearby area (Decatur, AL) is a big indicator that he is going to stay in the states and attempt to plant roots again. I think they are hunkered down somewhere in the southern states, possibly a college town. I think the Rogue is long since hidden and they are driving something else, moving about cautiously but right under our noses. And if they are having intimate relations, she is going to fall in love with him and stand by his side.
 
  • #65
I thought about 'stolen license plates' and this case: I thought Pervert would NOT steal lic' plates prior to the kidnapping because people would report them stolen to police. My GUESS is that Pervert could very easily stop and steal license plates from so many sorts of place, EG, small apartment complexes using just a little penlight - my GUESS is Pervert would be stealing license plates every day now....

I am WONDERING if Pervert could have some sort of cabin set where he took his victim? BUT problem with that theory is that it makes sense that Pervert did not plan his kidnapping over a super long period of time - sounds like he had time enough to gather all the cold cash he could, but not enough time to make-for a place for them to stay now.

I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT ALL THIS TIME !!!!!!!!

Also, IMO they BOTH were online so much, I'd think BOTH of them would have internet w/drawal, PLUS curiosity about all the drama the Pervert has created - come to think of it, I'd think the Pervert - FOR CONTROL - would himself want to follow the internet now but keep his victim cut off from reality....
 
  • #66
Rocket, you're trying to make sense in your world, not hers. It's kind of like trying to understand how someone acts in crisis mode, but you're not in crisis. I lost one of my children once at a park and ran through a plate glass window, right through it. Didn't even see it, I was in such a panic. Looking back I snicker at how stupid I was, but I was in crisis mode, my child was missing and I didn't even see the plate glass window. ET is a child and she's used to having adults tell her what to do and she follows without question. It's amazing, but even teens will do what they're told by an adult even if they feel scared or that it's wrong because they're taught to do what the adult tells them. It's why, even years later, if you have to meet with a principal at a school for your own child you will often get a bit panicky and revert to how you felt as a child when you were called to the office. It's why if your mother calls you and tells you to clean your room, even at 40, you'll feel compelled to do it. So we have a 15 year old child, a teacher who is making demands and she's compelled to do what he wants even if she doesn't want to and he's old enough to know this so he plays on her youthful indecision. "I know you want to end things, but I just want to say goodbye" or "I understand, but I wanted to do this one thing for you before we end things" or even worse "you need to talk to me face to face or I'll tell your father you said, or did or wrote blah blah". Remember these children also feel that what they are doing is wrong and they can misinterpret the anger being directed at the adult, to the themselves. It's why children blame themselves for parents' divorces. All they see is anger and they feel they're bad (added to the fact that she feels ugly) and they're just begging for the guilt in the situation. This guilt is something that predators use to their advantage. Every child who has been abused feels they are the one at fault, not one or some, but every one of them. And that gets further twisted by the predator who uses it to control their victim. It's impossible to understand as an adult, an even harder to understand when we're sitting in a safe place.

I know and agree with all you said. I shouldn't have said I was trying to make sense of it. What I was going after was her fear of him. She said to call the cops if she wasn't home by 6:00, and two days prior to that she was hiding from him at work. I think she knew something bad was coming down.
 
  • #67
I think he's too much of a narcissist to work with anyone else...it seems like he has a God complex. He wants ET to see him as a sort of savior and I don't see him sharing that spotlight with anyone.

I agree.

He created this fantasy so that only he can be the knight in shining armor. He justifies it by believing his lie.

The above is my opinion only.
 
  • #68
The fact that he was looking for work in a semi-nearby area (Decatur, AL) is a big indicator that he is going to stay in the states and attempt to plant roots again. I think they are hunkered down somewhere in the southern states, possibly a college town. I think the Rogue is long since hidden and they are driving something else, moving about cautiously but right under our noses. And if they are having intimate relations, she is going to fall in love with him and stand by his side.

I can't believe he would honestly think that he would be able to work anywhere even close to home. There's just no way. He must have known there would be a huge manhunt for him.
 
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I am personally exploring all possibilities. What I am REALLY concerned about is if he had or had received access to stolen plates.

I don't know what it is like in Decatur, but where I live, there are lots of families who have an older pick up truck parked somewhere on their lot that only gets used here and there when they need to move stuff. If he switches a plate for the plate on an unused or stored vehicle, I think it could take a long time to notice. I'm not even sure how long it would take me to notice if someone switched the plates out on the vehicle I drive. I know my plate number, but it's not like I look at it everyday before getting into the car, you know?


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  • #71
I recently found an individual on Social Media (instagram and Facebook) with no posts, but many followers and a photo that looks very much like Elizabeth Thomas.

However the name is a mix of Tad Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas. Because of the forum rules, I do not think I can post a link and/or photo that the two accounts contain.

Does anyone have an idea as to how I might share this w/o breaking the forum rules?

thank you

I would pm the link to her sister.
 
  • #72
There's an image on her IG. It shows letters used for crafting in a store arranged to say "send nudes."

Ohhhhhhh ok. I've seen that. Thank you!
 
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I would pm the link to her sister.

Yes, I would do this too. I looked at a social media profile like that, but I noticed that individual had a lot of people from a particular high school following them, so it could be someone from another place with the same name that goes to a different school and looks similar to her.
 
  • #75
I don't know what it is like in Decatur, but where I live, there are lots of families who have an older pick up truck parked somewhere on their lot that only gets used here and there when they need to move stuff. If he switches a plate for the plate on an unissued or stored vehicle, I think it could take a long time to notice. I'm not even sure how long it would take me to notice if someone switched the plates out on the vehicle I drive. I know my plate number, but it's not like I look at it everyday before getting into the car, you know?


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If he switched plates, he would have needed to do that in TN.

You may not notice a switched plate on your car if the plate is from the same state but you would notice if it was from another state.

The above is my opinion only.
 
  • #76
Does Elizabeth normally wear long nails, or nail polish?
 
  • #77
I posted earlier about a Canadian man found years later in Brazil. All without ID. He went through 10 countries. I know it's a different scenario but this man did it. But how???!

Here is a article.
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11797657

Here are the countries he went through
Anton, who has been placed back on his schizophrenia medication, traveled through at least ten countries from Canada, including the United States, Mexico, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Argentina and Brazil - all without a passport

He also has a small WS thread I just don't remember what section.




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  • #78
I recently found an individual on Social Media (instagram and Facebook) with no posts, but many followers and a photo that looks very much like Elizabeth Thomas.

However the name is a mix of Tad Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas. Because of the forum rules, I do not think I can post a link and/or photo that the two accounts contain.

Does anyone have an idea as to how I might share this w/o breaking the forum rules?

thank you

I think it looks like her.
 
  • #79
Think of it like Facebook...all your friends can see what you post but they can't see any private messages you send anyone. Instagram is the same.

Okay. So they are private messaging using an encryption code.
 
  • #80
The fact that he was looking for work in a semi-nearby area (Decatur, AL) is a big indicator that he is going to stay in the states and attempt to plant roots again. I think they are hunkered down somewhere in the southern states, possibly a college town. I think the Rogue is long since hidden and they are driving something else, moving about cautiously but right under our noses. And if they are having intimate relations, she is going to fall in love with him and stand by his side.

The one thing that I find strange is the request to borrow the sister's swimsuit. ET didn't have her own? Wow. I know teen's borrow clothes but that is odd in the circumstances. May be a red herring and mean nothing but if it is an indicator of direction there are only two places in the US now where that would be useful, that would be Florida and Southwest states. The temps here in the East, as some have said getting better, but even getting to low 70's for an hour or two is the best it is getting in some areas and cold for a girl from the mountains. If the swim suit means anything then the only location that makes sense is Florida, and he may fit right in rural areas there.
Mexico? They may get out but harder to get back nowadays.
 
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