TN TN - Nashville, Sulphur Creek Rd, Blk/Hisp Fem 20-40, UP52531, Vandy clothes, Sep'18

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  • #101
Wow, I do believe she is finally going to be identified. I hope her story will be told.
 
  • #102
bombardier said:
From the podcast, some secondhand information and some direct quotes from Detective Filter:
-viable DNA profile taken from body
-genetic geneology is being attempted
-new ancestry estimation is 1/2 African 1/2 Italian
-the last names Hayes and Mangarelli were popping up frequently, mostly in LS/TN/GA

Because this information is coming from Nashville PD, thru this podcast format, I think it should be free to discuss...
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Just a slight edit to suggest.. the detective states doe has ties to Texas, not Tennessee.
 
  • #103
fsngruv said:
Just a slight edit to suggest.. the detective states doe has ties to Texas, not Tennessee.
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oops!! im canadian and just guessed on those abbreviations o_O though i see now, that texas doesn't even have an N in it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
  • #104
bombardier said:
oops!! im canadian and just guessed on those abbreviations o_O though i see now, that texas doesn't even have an N in it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Louisiana is LA, also!
 
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bombardier said:
bruhhh i can't do this i got 1/3 right *_*
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Hey, I'm "Southern American", corrected the tx and still didn't catch the la!! You're awesome! No worries and thank you!!
 
  • #107
There is a missing person Devine Tollett, she went missing in 2018 and she has been named as a possible match by a few others in other social media posts and I don't think it's far fetched. Especially since we now know this doe might have connections to tx and la, just as the missing person does. I can't help but presume she's been submitted as a possible match by others who have mentioned her as a match to the vandy doe? She also has a Twitter but I can't find any strong direct familiar connections to the missing person herself on my own. Missing Person / NamUs #MP73888
 
  • #108
Queena said:
I wonder which side of the family doesn't each last name belong to.
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I sent an email to the Nashville police department asking them if they could give us further details and offered my Italian ancestry skills as I am a 3rd generation italian immigrant (checked my tree - no mangarelli). The podcast made it VERY clear that this is simply a profile and that Nashville has not yet started actual genealogical research. I'll update as I hear back.
 
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TheHighestPriestess said:
This girl was just added to NAMUS, went missing in 2013. Kind of a stretch but she reminded me a bit of Jane Doe.
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That pretty puffy ponytail made my stomach drop. The resemblance to the sketch for JD is uncanny.
Great eye!!!! What if guys?!
Weirder things have happened!!
Can you submit, THP?

Eta: If it’s in Namus, is it auto-compared? I’m sure we’ve been over this lol
 
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  • #113
cvaldez1975 said:
i weirdly like all my stuff matching as well. nike sweatshirt goes w nike sweats and nike shoes etc etc.

my sons football team colors are orange and black and he has a sweatsuit so i bought him black and orange nikes.

there are some like us!
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I just learned about this young lady. With Vanderbilt, I definitely think there would be a link to the school/teams of some sort if you’re wearing head to toe gear. Vandy doesn’t have a ton of “fans” that aren’t connected somehow, at least not hardcore like this. Thats not cheap gear, either. I know a lot of places in Nashville sell shirts and things, but not a lot sell official Under Armor. I just read through ZooZatz website and their products are only sold at university bookstores, at least at the present. Bookmarking this to look into over the weekend. (Vandy alum)
 
  • #114
fsngruv said:
Here is her ws page
www.websleuths.com

GA - GA - Kayla Miller, 13, Marietta, 13 Apr 2015

Kayla Miller Kayla, circa 2015 Missing Since 04/13/2015 Missing From Marietta, Georgia Classification Endangered Runaway Date of Birth 07/12/2001 (17) Age 13 years old Height and Weight 5'11, 150 pounds Distinguishing Characteristics African-American female. Black hair, brown eyes...
www.websleuths.com www.websleuths.com

Etb error
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Hi, I'm new here but I also thought Kayla Miller was a match and contacted Metro police, she has been officially ruled out by the department I've been told by them.
 
  • #115
Misbon74 said:
Hi, I'm new here but I also thought Kayla Miller was a match and contacted Metro police, she has been officially ruled out by the department I've been told by them.
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Thank you!
 
  • #116
If there is a thrift store or second hand sho somewhere in the area it would likely have loads of school clothing from students who have graduated or even donated and gotten new. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see someone fully decked out and not be a student. She also could have dressed that way in order to get on campus for parties or other functions. Had a friend at Dartmouth who monitored all of the events and meeting that had food or snacks listed and he went just for that.
 
  • #117
Shoopersleuth brings up many good points and it made me think a little more about the clothing.

Here are a few items I checked out:

1. The clothing recovered strikes me as a game day sort of outfit. The football team played their season opener on 9/1/18 at 6:30 local time.

2. The weather on 9/1 was 80 degrees almost all day, only dropping into the high 70s overnight. It was quite warm that week.

3. I could see this outfit making sense in August/Sept if she was using the long sleeves for wind/sun protection, assuming this 1/4 zip is the thin golf type performance moisture wicking fabric.

4. I would have expected this young lady to have also been wearing a cap/hat of some kind, especially given her hair was in a ponytail.

5. Colleges license their logos and collect royalties for every single item that is produced. They also have to approve the use on the actual item. Assuming they have a record of the licenses and royalties, could it be helpful to know how many of these Under Armour 1/4 zips were produced each year and if it was a newer model or old enough to make it to a resale channel. Was it a nationwide outfit like FansEdge or WalMart,or a local outlet?
 
  • #118
JackieBrown said:
Shoopersleuth brings up many good points and it made me think a little more about the clothing.

Here are a few items I checked out:

1. The clothing recovered strikes me as a game day sort of outfit. The football team played their season opener on 9/1/18 at 6:30 local time.

2. The weather on 9/1 was 80 degrees almost all day, only dropping into the high 70s overnight. It was quite warm that week.

3. I could see this outfit making sense in August/Sept if she was using the long sleeves for wind/sun protection, assuming this 1/4 zip is the thin golf type performance moisture wicking fabric.

4. I would have expected this young lady to have also been wearing a cap/hat of some kind, especially given her hair was in a ponytail.

5. Colleges license their logos and collect royalties for every single item that is produced. They also have to approve the use on the actual item. Assuming they have a record of the licenses and royalties, could it be helpful to know how many of these Under Armour 1/4 zips were produced each year and if it was a newer model or old enough to make it to a resale channel. Was it a nationwide outfit like FansEdge or WalMart,or a local outlet?
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Dartmouth had a fan store right in Hanover and sold Dartmouth clothing. The bookstore was also open to the public for purchases. The thrift stores in the area always had clothing with Dartmouth logos and many graduating student donated to the homeless shelter as well. I have not lived there for 20 years and I still have a Dartmouth team shirt!

I think you broke down the clothing quite well and thank you for doing so, but licenses and royalties mean nothing to students looking to dump old clothing on their way out of town. But that is just my experience with one college town, it could be different in other locations.

I do believe if she had been a student she would have been missed by the school rather quickly and they would have been looking for her.
 
  • #119
You know, pmi is said to be 2 weeks to 5 days, meaning she still couldve been alive back in August. Im trying to find this article but Beyonce and JayZ performed at Vanderbilt on or around August 20th, 2018. Vanderbilt reportedly had to turn away "hundreds" of folks, claiming people either failed to show up with their school ID, and some even went as far as to faking being a student there to attend. Could Jane Doe have been one of those people attempting to get in? This isnt victim blaming - i'd do something similar tbh - but being completely decked out head to toe to appear as a student makes the most sense to me. Could this be why she was wearing so much school clothing?
 
  • #120
Nice chat with MNPD this morning. Othram is currently working on the case.
 
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