GUILTY TN - SLP, 14, found alive, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #6 *ARRESTS*

[Steelslady]

Happen to have a link? I missed where the prosecutor made that statement.

And personally, I think BR is getting light charges cuz he did in fact save her, did NOT SA her and only wanted that video to protect himself. It proves WHY he helped a young girl. A man would not be given the same benefit of the doubt a woman would. I doubt he even really wanted it sent to him but that's also the only way to make sure RP can't access it and delete it.

I realize my opinion may not be popular, but until I see proof that BR did anything but demand evidence to show LE when he undoubtedly eventually gets arrested, I'm on his side. I truly don't believe he harmed SP.

I join you in the unpopular crowd, and it's great seeing you again on here!

The only thing that made me teeter the other way for a bit was when they said the rape kit showed that she had had sexual relations within 3-5 days of it being done. That upset me to no end, because I truly felt in my heart that he did save her from a monster at home, and it was devastating to read that she might have gone from one bad situation to the other. Yet, in the back of my mind, so many things didn't make sense to me. Why he drove her to mail off the letter and copy of the video, he tried numerous times to get her to tell a friend, call LE, go to the hospital for a rape kit- he kept advising her to do this. I truly believe the only reason he did what he did was because she kept threatening suicide, and his conscience was weighing heavily, but wanted proof to cover himself for helping her. As you said, if this had been a female that did the exact same thing, others would be much more understanding. However, many were in his corner until the rape kit test result was brought up- which is still at this point, up in the air. I was waiting for charges today to be filed because of that- why didn't they charge him?

 

[wary]

Wondering now why they aren’t pursuing the SA charges. If they misrepresented the evidence on that, I’m gonna be livid.

I’m tentatively considering doing another flip-flop. (I’ve lost count of how many I’ve done already.) They’re charging him with two things that it seems clear that he did. (Motivation, not yet clear.)

For her sake, I’d be very happy if BR hadn’t sexually assaulted her. Is there a chance of that? If they don’t charge him with it...maybe?

 

[PayrollNerd]

I’m tentatively considering doing another flip-flop. (I’ve lost count of how many I’ve done already.) They’re charging him with two things that it seems clear that he did. (Motivation, not yet clear.)

For her sake, I’d be very happy if BR hadn’t sexually assaulted her. Is there a chance of that? If they don’t charge him with it...maybe?

Take a look at the posts regarding federal and state charges from Gitana. She explains them well.

 

[darring21]

Let's also remember this was a grand jury and they indict on anything. The defense isn't present and only the prosecutor's side is heard. Even then, the prosecutor doesn't have to present mitigating facts. If there is no SA, I'm not sure a jury convicts on the other after a defense attorney has a run at it.

 

[Doghairrules]

I’m tentatively considering doing another flip-flop. (I’ve lost count of how many I’ve done already.) They’re charging him with two things that it seems clear that he did. (Motivation, not yet clear.)

For her sake, I’d be very happy if BR hadn’t sexually assaulted her. Is there a chance of that? If they don’t charge him with it...maybe?

That part would delight me. I would be livid though that they had everyone thinking he did if he, in fact, did not. But @gitana1 is probably right about this - that they just aren’t charging him because they can’t prove intent for the federal charges and the state may not want to use resources if he’s already going to have a lengthy sentence.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

Putting potential SA aside for the moment, wouldn't it still be a federal crime to transport a minor across state lines -- and secrete her -- for whatever the purpose? I was surprised that he wasn't charged with abduction of a minor.

 

[ilovechili]

The focus has been on him because a majority of people saw him as a hero. Whereas RP's conduct was clearly criminal to them, this other dude's was not. There was a huge amount of debate about his behavior and his arrest. Many could not be convinced that a 31 year old who struck up a relationship online with a 14 year old child, coerced her into filming and sending him evidence of her rape, and then went and got her and secreted her in his basement, could actually be a bad guy.

The charges were controversial. They may still be for some, despite discussion of his apparent sexual abuse of her, because it's hard to shift one's opinions. Especially when we've had to defend them.

RP is a sure thing. There's consensus.

It's that simple.

I do not disagree, all is so true.

I get a bit upset though when it sometimes seems to be forgotten who the first and foremost perpetrator is. Not just here but media as well. I get however where the news is focused and that we do the same because that is what we see, hear or whose hearing they may have more access to, etc. Frustrated lately I guess at twin evils (at minimum in cases). Bad enough there is one perp/person harming someone, then one comes to find out there are two. Or more.

The KB case has gotten to me. This case, I still have this stupid hope not all are so bad.

And I recognize that it is exactly what it is. A stupid hope.

You do not even want to hear what my far fetched hope is in the KB case

Anyhow...

 

[Yellow Rose]

I do not disagree, all is so true.

I get a bit upset though when it sometimes seems to be forgotten who the first and foremost perpetrator is. Not just here but media as well. I get however where the news is focused and that we do the same because that is what we see, hear or whose hearing they may have more access to, etc. Frustrated lately I guess at twin evils (at minimum in cases). Bad enough there is one perp/person harming someone, then one comes to find out there are two. Or more.

The KB case has gotten to me. This case, I still have this stupid hope not all are so bad.

And I recognize that it is exactly what it is. A stupid hope.

You do not even want to hear what my far fetched hope is in the KB case

Anyhow...

Yes I want to hear it. Is it that kk goes down?

 

[ilovechili]

Happen to have a link? I missed where the prosecutor made that statement.

And personally, I think BR is getting light charges cuz he did in fact save her, did NOT SA her and only wanted that video to protect himself. It proves WHY he helped a young girl. A man would not be given the same benefit of the doubt a woman would. I doubt he even really wanted it sent to him but that's also the only way to make sure RP can't access it and delete it.

I realize my opinion may not be popular, but until I see proof that BR did anything but demand evidence to show LE when he undoubtedly eventually gets arrested, I'm on his side. I truly don't believe he harmed SP.

Something said when the attempt was to have him out and not held, that the prosecutor used. I don't think we have any detail and it was news to me of such science. Then another "media

I join you in the unpopular crowd, and it's great seeing you again on here!

The only thing that made me teeter the other way for a bit was when they said the rape kit showed that she had had sexual relations within 3-5 days of it being done. That upset me to no end, because I truly felt in my heart that he did save her from a monster at home, and it was devastating to read that she might have gone from one bad situation to the other. Yet, in the back of my mind, so many things didn't make sense to me. Why he drove her to mail off the letter and copy of the video, he tried numerous times to get her to tell a friend, call LE, go to the hospital for a rape kit- he kept advising her to do this. I truly believe the only reason he did what he did was because she kept threatening suicide, and his conscience was weighing heavily, but wanted proof to cover himself for helping her. As you said, if this had been a female that did the exact same thing, others would be much more understanding. However, many were in his corner until the rape kit test result was brought up- which is still at this point, up in the air. I was waiting for charges today to be filed because of that- why didn't they charge him?

The very same points that keep me from deciding.

We get this *tidbit* about this but no experts weighing in nor details about how they know this.

Right or wrong, I have a feeling SP is not down on him when they interview her. Of course, she is a minor and he could have played her, groomed her, etc. I get that viewpoint as well. And can see the defense for believing that, very clearly. And very possibly quite true.

If this man saved her, a big IF I understand (but again there are degrees), and did nothing to harm her but did what he could to help her and ensure he thought he was covered, and she was covered and daddy was arrested before he would give her up and took his own chances to keep that promise, and she was safe, and he is jailed because of it now, prosecuted but if he never harmed her, good luck in the future to anyone ever stepping in to save anyone ever or believing anyone ever will.

On the other hand, if he had an evil intent from the beginning, then he deserves everything they can throw at him.

But they haven't charged such things... Not that they couldn't still do so if there is enough evidence. So far, apparently they are thinking twice about it...

And I think everyone knows my opinion of people who believe the system works so well on behalf of children or anyone or is always perfect. It is not. I have never seen one yet that is. In my lifetime anyhow. I do understand the Pollyanna type of need to believe that though.

I have said it many times. *Daddy* has ONE charge. And it took a video. ONE charge. Why????

 

[kay74]

Can you even imagine how desperate this girl was. She is going to need YEARS of therapy.

 

[SkipperKey3]

I join you in the unpopular crowd, and it's great seeing you again on here!

The only thing that made me teeter the other way for a bit was when they said the rape kit showed that she had had sexual relations within 3-5 days of it being done. That upset me to no end, because I truly felt in my heart that he did save her from a monster at home, and it was devastating to read that she might have gone from one bad situation to the other. Yet, in the back of my mind, so many things didn't make sense to me. Why he drove her to mail off the letter and copy of the video, he tried numerous times to get her to tell a friend, call LE, go to the hospital for a rape kit- he kept advising her to do this. I truly believe the only reason he did what he did was because she kept threatening suicide, and his conscience was weighing heavily, but wanted proof to cover himself for helping her. As you said, if this had been a female that did the exact same thing, others would be much more understanding. However, many were in his corner until the rape kit test result was brought up- which is still at this point, up in the air. I was waiting for charges today to be filed because of that- why didn't they charge him?

Actually, I did think of a reason. Remember, this is a case of intent. If they charged him with SA, they would have to prove that this is the reason he took her across state lines. Was his intent all along that of predator/prey? I think the defense has a case for showing that it wasn't, and unless the prosecution can show otherwise, the SA might not stick. That's not saying the rape kit wasn't accurate. I'm guessing it probably was. But I think, as has been said, SLP is talking to FBI. Remember something that she said? She said that RP said he wouldn't touch her again if she was with anybody else. I know we only have BDR's word at this point that she said that, but I do think SLP is talking and they know for sure if she said that. I don't believe RP would stick to not touching her again, but SLP probably believed it. So... once they mail off the evidence, she is left with BDR. She is still desperate and scared, and remembered what RP says. So as an added precaution, just in case she gets sent back to RP, she asks BDR to ... Of course, BDR should have refused. But perhaps he agreed.
IF SLP puts it to that way when questioned, then I think the prosecutor would think it best to drop the SA charge, despite the rape kit.
I don't know, just thinking out loud. I said since the arrests that RP was the real evil person here, and that BDR's actions were less clear. Personally, since it was RP's fault and a direct result of his actions that SLP ended up in WI with BDR, then whatever BDR's sentence is should also be ADDED TO that of RP's sentence. Every single event in this case was put in motion thanks to RP.

 

[ilovechili]

I don't know! I guess we have to wait and see. Sometimes I've noticed that the state won't prosecute if the Feds have charged. Maybe they think it's a waste of resources.

The almighty dollar plays into so many things... One would think safety of our children would be first. Then there is PR. And I will not even add the media...

Forgive my cynicism. I have much of it on the one hand but wild hopes and dreams to the point of being naive on the other hand with regard to the safety of missing children and adult victims; Casey's bear I am hoping is with Serenity for instance.

Those thoughts are what let me sleep.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Happen to have a link? I missed where the prosecutor made that statement.

And personally, I think BR is getting light charges cuz he did in fact save her, did NOT SA her and only wanted that video to protect himself. It proves WHY he helped a young girl. A man would not be given the same benefit of the doubt a woman would. I doubt he even really wanted it sent to him but that's also the only way to make sure RP can't access it and delete it.

I realize my opinion may not be popular, but until I see proof that BR did anything but demand evidence to show LE when he undoubtedly eventually gets arrested, I'm on his side. I truly don't believe he harmed SP.

TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #5 *ARRESTS*

 

[ilovechili]

Actually, I did think of a reason. Remember, this is a case of intent. If they charged him with SA, they would have to prove that this is the reason he took her across state lines. Was his intent all along that of predator/prey? I think the defense has a case for showing that it wasn't, and unless the prosecution can show otherwise, the SA might not stick. That's not saying the rape kit wasn't accurate. I'm guessing it probably was. But I think, as has been said, SLP is talking to FBI. Remember something that she said? She said that RP said he wouldn't touch her again if she was with anybody else. I know we only have BDR's word at this point that she said that, but I do think SLP is talking and they know for sure if she said that. I don't believe RP would stick to not touching her again, but SLP probably believed it. So... once they mail off the evidence, she is left with BDR. She is still desperate and scared, and remembered what RP says. So as an added precaution, just in case she gets sent back to RP, she asks BDR to ... Of course, BDR should have refused. But perhaps he agreed.
IF SLP puts it to that way when questioned, then I think the prosecutor would think it best to drop the SA charge, despite the rape kit.
I don't know, just thinking out loud. I said since the arrests that RP was the real evil person here, and that BDR's actions were less clear. Personally, since it was RP's fault and a direct result of his actions that SLP ended up in WI with BDR, then whatever BDR's sentence is should also be ADDED TO that of RP's sentence. Every single event in this case was put in motion thanks to RP.

I love this--it started with RJP. It may have ended with the other guy, we can see wait to see what the intent was--but it started with Randall Pruitt. Why is his name not being shouted out to the world. It takes a video for ONE CHARGE. ONE. Would there even be a charge otherwise?

 

[human]

Something said when the attempt was to have him out and not held, that the prosecutor used. I don't think we have any detail and it was news to me of such science. Then another "media


The very same points that keep me from deciding.

We get this *tidbit* about this but no experts weighing in nor details about how they know this.

Right or wrong, I have a feeling SP is not down on him when they interview her. Of course, she is a minor and he could have played her, groomed her, etc. I get that viewpoint as well. And can see the defense for believing that, very clearly. And very possibly quite true.

If this man saved her, a big IF I understand (but again there are degrees), and did nothing to harm her but did what he could to help her and ensure he thought he was covered, and she was covered and daddy was arrested before he would give her up and took his own chances to keep that promise, and she was safe, and he is jailed because of it now, prosecuted but if he never harmed her, good luck in the future to anyone ever stepping in to save anyone ever or believing anyone ever will.

On the other hand, if he had an evil intent from the beginning, then he deserves everything they can throw at him.

But they haven't charged such things... Not that they couldn't still do so if there is enough evidence. So far, apparently they are thinking twice about it...

And I think everyone knows my opinion of people who believe the system works so well on behalf of children or anyone or is always perfect. It is not. I have never seen one yet that is. In my lifetime anyhow. I do understand the Pollyanna type of need to believe that though.

I have said it many times. *Daddy* has ONE charge. And it took a video. ONE charge. Why????

I think Daddy has been busy doing a lot of other stuff and they are searching for it.

 

[Jim_M]

If sexual assault was not part of a federal charge then they can't charge him with it federally.

See my earlier post about transporting a child for the purposes of sexual assault or illegal sexual activity. If they can't prove that's why he transported her then they won't charge him.

Deciding to sexually assault her and doing so once in WI would be a state charge.

What we appear to 'know' after six (6) threads detailing SLP's 'life' up to 1/31/19:

RP - 41 year old male - father figure - Alleged to have molested/terrorized SLP for most of her 14 years of life. Currently charged for rape as evidenced in a video. Further charges (possibly) pending.

BR - 31 year old male - befriended 14 year old SLP - Learned about SLP's life (See RP above) and convinced (demanded/coerced/pick your descriptive word here) a 14 year old suicidal girl to film a (it's going to happen anyway) rape on her person. BR, having this video in his possession, drove approximately 700 miles to 'rescue' SLP from the clutches of RP.

Currently, BR is facing federal charges as outlined in today's report. State charges could (possibly) follow if warranted by the justice system.

I will end this diatribe stating that all of this is found in the many links throughout these threads. IMHO the details, that a 31 year old male found himself making the decisions that he faced, show exactly how a predator would treat a 14 (FOURTEEN) year old girl. SLP is 14 and is not 'legal' in any sense of that word.

Thank you again, gitana1, for trying your best to enlighten us to the vagaries of our laws.

 

[ilovechili]

I think Daddy has been busy doing a lot of other stuff and they are searching for it.

I think the same. Not all he was involved with. And I hate to suggest it but riding in a semi with *daddy* most have not gone there, but I was not worried about her being just with *daddy*. I hope she grows up EMPOWERED over this garbage.

all just speculation and mho.

 

[ilovechili]

What we appear to 'know' after six (6) threads detailing SLP's 'life' up to 1/31/19:

RP - 41 year old male - father figure - Alleged to have molested/terrorized SLP for most of her 14 years of life. Currently charged for rape as evidenced in a video. Further charges (possibly) pending.

BR - 31 year old male - befriended 14 year old SLP - Learned about SLP's life (See RP above) and convinced (demanded/coerced/pick your descriptive word here) a 14 year old suicidal girl to film a (it's going to happen anyway) rape on her person. BR, having this video in his possession, drove approximately 700 miles to 'rescue' SLP from the clutches of RP.

Currently, BR is facing federal charges as outlined in today's report. State charges could (possibly) follow if warranted by the justice system.

I will end this diatribe stating that all of this is found in the many links throughout these threads. IMHO the details, that a 31 year old male found himself making the decisions that he faced, show exactly how a predator would treat a 14 (FOURTEEN) year old girl. SLP is 14 and is not 'legal' in any sense of that word.

Thank you again, gitana1, for trying your best to enlighten us to the vagaries of our laws.

Both men deserve whatever can be proven and probably more than can be proven because the only charge against Randall J Pruitt has the video detailed to a point as evidence. If RJP abused her most of her life or more than one time, I am sorry but where are THOSE charges? Took a video to have ONE charge against this sicko.

Edited to fix word.

 

[ilovechili]

Sorry but I will say it again. *Adopto-dad* molested her her entire life pretty much but he has ONE charge and it took a video that they could not ignore....

I wonder if we would even know about it otherwise....

Truly, think about that. She KNEW it... he likely did too.. we are apt to never see that.

just thoughts...

 

[Miya]

Sorry but I will say it again. *Adopto-dad* molested her her entire life pretty much but he has ONE charge and it took a video that they could not ignore....

I wonder if we would even know about it otherwise....

Truly, think about that. She KNEW it... he likely did too.. we are apt to never see that.

just thoughts...

This is actually the shocking part - that children in her situation don't really have a way out, only if they are very lucky, police believes them AND has other proof. Let's say she would have managed to get to a hospital all alone after another traumatizing rape that left her devastated without taking a shower and having a rape kit done - that would have been proof. But she was very isolated, how could she have gotten to a hospital all by herself, plus right after being raped, right after being traumatized as well. 14 years old, all alone.

Ok, she could have gone to the police without taking a shower and they could have taken it from there, but all alone, after just being traumatized again, and apparently she didn't trust local police. Would also make sense that the step-monster told her the police would never believe her anyway. Or told her that he knows people there (and maybe told her the same about police where they lived before they moved to the farm).

So yes, he destroyed her, she will never have a happy life, happy days hopefully, but never a happy life. And yes, he only has one charge. And that's because of a video that some other predator asked her to make. I don't even know what to say, the world is a horrible place ... Especially if you are a child or a woman.