AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

[carbuff]

Hi I'm back. Still catching up.

I hoped we might have found her by now.

 

[jellybean96]

Cooperation and being "an open book" to me would mean that LE WOULD HAVE a clear timeline.

But yet, for whatever reason LE wont say D & C are not involved. To me, that means perhaps something isn't lining up with what someone said. Sure, there are other reasons why LE wouldn't release them publicly as being involved. But those reasons are not the norm for LE.

I think its possible that someone isn't being as open and cooperative as they'd like people to think.

IMHO, of course.

 

[Squirrel85]

just a thought to share on where I am on this, I am still at the lake where they went for the swim as I do believe an accident did occur..when her and her mother arrived at home I believe Summer was still in the vehicle, I believe she had already expired...I don't think they did any gardening just filling the gaps of time... I will stop here .... again just my thoughts on what I think....

Here is something to think about. If grandma knew she was going to leave for a period of time. Why did she even bother transplanting the 'flowers' into different pots? Because anyone who gardens or has houseplants knows that transplanted plants/flowers need plenty of water to grow strong roots in the new soil. And why was transplanting those plants suddenly important on that day?

 

[Squirrel85]

CH's camper is still there. I was wondering how CH would dispose of the septic waste. Any water going in has to come out somewhere. I doubt it's hooked up to the house's septic tank. Maybe a composting toilet but what about the kitchen sink?

I have also wondered about this. Where are they dumping her waste? I would think improper disposal would be an environmental hazard.

 

[Squirrel85]

But yet, for whatever reason LE wont say D & C are not involved. To me, that means perhaps something isn't lining up with what someone said. Sure, there are other reasons why LE wouldn't release them publicly as being involved. But those reasons are not the norm for LE.

I think its possible that someone isn't being as open and cooperative as they'd like people to think.

IMHO, of course.

According to this article, it states the sheriff is viewing everyone as a suspect/person of interest. They just haven't come out to make a statement who suspect #1 is.

Edited for correction of law enforcement agency.

Tennessee sheriff on Summer Wells: ‘Everybody’s still a suspect, person of interest, however you wanna put it’

 

[Squirrel85]

Going back to the very beginning Summer was reported last seen walking away from her home around 7PM.
I don't remember who saw her, was it one of her brothers?

I cannot remember why this was disregarded, does anyone else remember? So much info since then, I just can't remember.

I remember this information being released. There is a YouTube video of the first press release from the TBI spokesperson that mentions Summer being seen walking around 7 pm. She was reported missing by a family member. I am not sure when or how the last location of Summer being seen had changed. Social Media makes things confusing with its messed-up game of telephone.

 

[Squirrel85]

Do you remember who said they saw her walking away from the home? Also why was this dismissed.

Was it just another media error?

It would've been one heck of an error on TBI's part if it is indeed an error. Because TBI announced this information during their 1st press release about Summer.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Here is something to think about. If grandma knew she was going to leave for a period of time. Why did she even bother transplanting the 'flowers' into different pots? Because anyone who gardens or has houseplants knows that transplanted plants/flowers need plenty of water to grow strong roots in the new soil. And why was transplanting those plants suddenly important on that day?

I believe they were planting little cactus in the pots. Those, like most everything else around there, don’t need much attention.

 

[DutchTreat]

Quite possibly. Though if that's the case why doesn't he say so? He has been asked the question a few times now and it's the same answer every time. He states he knew they would have already searched the house.

I don't think it's so strage he went there. He knows the terrain. Summer must have been down there before, since it's their land, shed and the creek is there.
Maybe she played in that creek before.

People are up at the house looking. The neighbour is probably looking at the side of the hill with the dog trail that ends at the road.
The side behind gm's trailer is very steep, looks like you get some view down. But also very, very steep so unlikely she would go down there. Or an abductor would be able to get himself and Summer down there without falling down that hill.

I would have loved to see a view from the top of the hill down towards the creek where Don went.
And a view down the hill where that other big shack is.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Just exactly how many structures are on that plot of land? is it parcelled out?

 

[DearPrudence]

Since it seems like the first thing he did was drive right to where the boys were, my theory is still that he dropped the boys off there.

I noticed that at approx 2:32 in DW's tour video that upon reaching the drive he says "and this is where we turned in -but quickly corrects himself to say this is where I turned in". (Paraphrasing because I don't have time to go back and watch again right now)

 

[DutchTreat]

Here is something to think about. If grandma knew she was going to leave for a period of time. Why did she even bother transplanting the 'flowers' into different pots? Because anyone who gardens or has houseplants knows that transplanted plants/flowers need plenty of water to grow strong roots in the new soil. And why was transplanting those plants suddenly important on that day?

I think the whole transplanting thing is odd.
They had been up and about all day, on a hot day. Why not do such a thing early in the morning or when it has cooled down.

But if they took some flowers from that waterhole, they would have had to be planted right away.

 

[hdo82]

Just exactly how many structures are on that plot of land? is it parcelled out?

Its not parceled out. It's their home, the sheds we saw in the video. And of course all the motor vehicles sitting around with the rest of the miscellaneous "stuff" they collect.

 

[NuttMegg]

I think the whole transplanting thing is odd.
They had been up and about all day, on a hot day. Why not do such a thing early in the morning or when it has cooled down.

But if they took some flowers from that waterhole, they would have had to be planted right away.

Yeah, cacti in even tiny pots don't really ever have to be transplanted. They are grown that way on purpose and have tiny, shallow root systems. DutchTreat I hadn't really thought of the transplanting. So if they were cacti, there was absolutely no rush whatsoever to get them into the ground.
If they were plants, ie wildflowers, taken from the ground, they would never be transplanted in the heat of a summer day. It would kill the leaves right away. Better to stick them in water, roots and all, and transplant after the sun goes down, and shade them for a week or more.

The whole transplanting story is very curious. IMO

 

[hdo82]

Personally, I get the impression that at that moment in time, Grandma was not planning to leave.

Yes she left earlier than her usual trip.

 

[hdo82]

I wonder how long until Don does the prayer circles live on YouTube via that Cher and Mr. Cher

 

[10ofRods]

If you watched his shed video that was being discussed earlier, he pointed out where the neighbor was. Literally right in the same area he said the boys were. Are we now to believe the neighbor is blind and wouldn't have seen the boys dropped off by DW if that was the case?

Well, we could choose to believe that DW isn't accurate as another possibility.

 

[investigatefred]

It would've been one heck of an error on TBI's part if it is indeed an error. Because TBI announced this information during their 1st press release about Summer.

Common sense says she wouldn't have been reported missing when the ~6:30 call to 911 was made if she was "seen walking away at 7pm". Obviously that was a misstatement by someone along the grapevine.

Moo

 

[rosesfromangels]

I think the whole transplanting thing is odd.
They had been up and about all day, on a hot day. Why not do such a thing early in the morning or when it has cooled down.

But if they took some flowers from that waterhole, they would have had to be planted right away.

Yes indeed. As I posted upthread, they certainly had a lot of pep after such a long day; especially the GMa who had a knee ailment to the point where she had to get a scrip. I must be missing something...

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have also wondered about this. Where are they dumping her waste? I would think improper disposal would be an environmental hazard.

Perhaps this very issue (if it is an issue), contributed to why the children were removed. From the outside looking in, (from what we have seen in video), the homestead looks like it could use some help with orderliness and sanitation.

Amateur opinion and speculation