AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

[kittythehare]

Appreciate your perspective and agree with most but how do you draw the conclusion that its all fraud when DW is contacting these outlets himself and shooting his mouth off?
He is free to say or not say anything.

There has to be a point where one takes personal responsibility for their own behaviour.

Not DW's strong point. But that doesn't mean the messenger should be held responsible for his irresponsibilites.

moo

My understanding is that he returned a call to CM. I imagine CM contacted him first. Like he most likely made first contact with CW.

I think the new channel also reached out to him. Apparently the Mrs.Cher had originally subscribed to his guilt but changed her mind.. that seems to be the chatter.
He is irresponsible by giving those interviews but I could easily see how he could have been persuaded. He most definitely is not media savvy. I think we can all agree on that.
I don't believe he has a lawyer. If he had he'd probably not listen to him. He's like a drowning man, I have no idea if he is taking the time to grieve or just staying ahead of his fear and pain by acting recklessly. By giving interviews. I also have a feeling he expects her to be alive, somewhere..
If he's wrong about that...

 

[katydid23]

If we can't believe what he says, why bother discussing it?
That's most of what this thread is about, dissecting his every word.

I replied to a post which said ,paraphrasing, ---" If you watched the video then you'd know where the neighbour was..."

So I had to reply to that because I disagreed. Just because DW says something off the top of his head, I HAVE LEARNED by experience, it is not always the story he sticks to.

I am still discussing his words because it is all we have to go on. But I cannot accept them as gospel truth because he is inconsistent.

Maybe the neighbour was right there where he pointed to, but maybe not. Maybe that was at a later time that he saw him, or at another time, perhaps as he was pulling out? I just cannot trust to take him at his exact wording because he is very sloppy with his words.

 

[Sneaker33]

A lot of things get muddled in the frenzy of an emergency. Dispatch may have said that she was last seen on foot (ie not in a vehicle) and eventually that got turned into “walking away.” JMO.

This is true. Also what is reported in a news article is often incorrect or deliberately twisted. I know of a case where the body was reported to be found in the bathtub but it was actually the bedroom. Another case to this day even after murderer was identified through DNA reports victim was hitchhiking. She was not as she had her own car. For years a relative thought the murderer was someone known to her. It was a stranger.

 

[katydid23]

My understanding is that he returned a call to CM. I imagine CM contacted him first. Like he most likely made first contact with CW.

I think the new channel also reached out to him. Apparently the Mrs.Cher had originally subscribed to his guilt but changed her mind.. that seems to be the chatter.
He is irresponsible by giving those interviews but I could easily see how he could have been persuaded. He most definitely is not media savvy. I think we can all agree on that.
I don't believe he has a lawyer. If he had he'd probably not listen to him. He's like a drowning man, I have no idea if he is taking the time to grieve or just staying ahead of his fear and pain by acting recklessly. By giving interviews. I also have a feeling he expects her to be alive, somewhere..
If he's wrong about that...

You think he expects her to be alive? If so, why is he insisting from the start that she is long gone?

I don't think he believes she is alive. I think he knows she is not.

As to him just staying ahead of his fear and pain---I agree. Some of the fear might be of the authorities and what they might find. JMO

 

[on the case]

Going back to the very beginning Summer was reported last seen walking away from her home around 7PM.
I don't remember who saw her, was it one of her brothers?

I cannot remember why this was disregarded, does anyone else remember? So much info since then, I just can't remember.

I'm so confused . How could Summer have been seen walking around at 7:00pm <modsnip>

 

[chihuahua]

You think he expects her to be alive? If so, why is he insisting from the start that she is long gone?

I don't think he believes she is alive. I think he knows she is not.

As to him just staying ahead of his fear and pain---I agree. Some of the fear might be of the authorities and what they might find. JMO

Pardon me for jumping in but he said he'll see her at the resurrection if I recall correctly.
That's just sad and to me indicates what he thinks.
Good night and good morning everyone.
Out of here for now,
Chi

 

[claudicici]

Yes I think if there is one thing certain in this case it is that DW believes Summer is no longer alive He was also certain from the very beginning that she was abducted and the searchers are wasting their time IMO he knows exactly whatever happened to Summer and IMO he also knows why I wished CM would have played devil's advocate longer IMO DW would have opened up to him....moo

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread is closed for the night.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Good Morning - Thread is open

 

[SLouTh]

I'm so confused . How could Summer have been seen walking around at 7:00pm <modsnip>

With the utmost respect, I think this is inaccurate information, the dispatch call went out at 6:32pm and Police arrive approx 40mins later ... just after 7pm..... while Summer was still missing...

JMO

 

[nyvictoria]

A lot of things get muddled in the frenzy of an emergency. Dispatch may have said that she was last seen on foot (ie not in a vehicle) and eventually that got turned into “walking away.” JMO.

IIRC dispatch said the mother went for a walk and returned to find Summer gone. Not an exact quote but that’s the gist. Mother…walk…gone. That could be where the “last seen walking away” came from. I believe the broacastify recording is in the scanner thread.

 

[LoveyG]

just a thought to share on where I am on this, I am still at the lake where they went for the swim as I do believe an accident did occur..when her and her mother arrived at home I believe Summer was still in the vehicle, I believe she had already expired...I don't think they did any gardening just filling the gaps of time... I will stop here .... again just my thoughts on what I think....

I considered this but wonder if DW would be willing to step in front of fire (as he's been doing with these interviews) if the fault was with someone else. I don't see him protecting CB and CH if they contributed to SWs demise.

ETA: I guess my thoughts above don't apply if you believe that DW was at work all day and only came home at 6:30, and, was unaware of anything that might have happened.

 

[LoveyG]

Since it seems like the first thing he did was drive right to where the boys were, my theory is still that he dropped the boys off there.

Unless the boys were at the house when something happened to Summer and they were told to get off the property before police were called.

 

[Tealgrove]

With the utmost respect, I think this is inaccurate information, the dispatch call went out at 6:32pm and Police arrive approx 40mins later ... just after 7pm..... while Summer was still missing...

JMO

The original story was that Summer was seen walking away from the house just around 7:00 pm which we now know can’t be true due to the time of the 911 call. Who knows where that came from but that was the first report.

That’s why we kept hearing from DW that dogs lost her scent at the drive.

It then became the dogs lost her scent at the dog trail.

Then the original story changed and that the last time she was seen was going to the basement after doing gardening.

Then the story morphed into Summer being abducted from the basement and the 2 minutes got brought into the story or was it 20 minutes.? Who knows? At one point Candus was making dinner, then she was on a walk. The last to see her were the boys as descended the stairs to her “playroom”.

Since Day 1 the circumstances and times have moved all over the place so pick which version you like best because I guarantee you that most of the timeline and circumstances are probably wrong.

All of this info can be confirmed from the first thread.

Until LE confirms ANYTHING it’s all just a crapshoot for now.

MOO

 

[SMK777]

I guarantee you that most of the timeline and circumstances are probably wrong.

I think you’re probably right, considering the constant changes.

 

[Shamrock1]

IIRC dispatch said the mother went for a walk and returned to find Summer gone. Not an exact quote but that’s the gist. Mother…walk…gone. That could be where the “last seen walking away” came from. I believe the broacastify recording is in the scanner thread.

I don’t put much importance in the exact wording of the initial communications - the timing is important, as is the location of the caller IMO. The initial communications all agree that a child last seen on foot disappeared.

 

[AbbeyBabbey]

You think he expects her to be alive? If so, why is he insisting from the start that she is long gone?

I don't think he believes she is alive. I think he knows she is not.

As to him just staying ahead of his fear and pain---I agree. Some of the fear might be of the authorities and what they might find. JMO

A part of him expects her to be alive, yes. JMO. It's all he has to hold on to. Would anyone with a conscience try to deny him that? He's drowning here and is grasping at any life saver he can. It's disheartening to know that some would (presumably) want to throw him an anchor instead. IMO

He's also said that he'll see her in the resurrection (I don't know what that means but I think he means the afterlife?). He's totally discombobulated and all over the place. Completely understandable! He's said many things as he's trying to work through this. Unfortunately, it's taking place in the public eye. He just doesn't understand that it's self-harming.

He knows that the authorities know everything there is to know about them - it's the FBI, after all!!! I don't think he fears they are coming after him. He's not in hiding. He's cooperated. He's available. He's put it all out there. He's made himself vulnerable. He's too consumed with fear as to what has happened to his daughter; what is happening with his wife; what his future looks like (possibly without his beloved daughter and the rest of his family back together again) to be concerned with that. IMO

 

[hdo82]

Cooperation and being "an open book" to me would mean that LE WOULD HAVE a clear timeline.

 

[AbbeyBabbey]

Cooperation and being "an open book" to me would mean that LE WOULD HAVE a clear timeline.

Yes! As far as Don's timeline goes. He was in a traceable vehicle, he spent the day around other people and they have data off of his phone. Candus is tracable too up until a certain point, probably until she pulled into the driveway. The only gray area is what happened after they got home up until the time the police arrived. And they have grandmus and the boys to fill in that gap.

 

[NuttMegg]

Yes! As far as Don's timeline goes. He was in a traceable vehicle, he spent the day around other people and they have data off of his phone. Candus is tracable too up until a certain point, probably until she pulled into the driveway. The only gray area is what happened after they got home up until the time the police arrived. And they have grandmus and the boys to fill in that gap.

Didn't DW said there was nobody at home? So maybe the boys weren't there.