AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #24

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  • #281
Well now let's see, 2 step-sisters and 1 niece and 1 sister. 3 accuse him of sexual assault and one doesn't so right, there's no pattern.

What? o_O
His sister wasn't 7 years younger.
 
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If he was talking ABOUT SUMMER, people would not crucify him.
And even when he does talk about Summer it's in an odd way. He talks about how she loves him so much and has to be next to him and how he wakes up with her leg underneath him. And then tonight he talked about how she would mediate arguments between him and CB. What a heavy burden for a 5 year old IMO.
 
  • #283
These things can frame how or why Summer became missing though, right? It’s not judging him to discuss the facts as the family has stated them to be. DW spoke about the DV incident and he spoke about the SA, while also blaming that particular victim. I have no idea what the family knows, but I know from studying criminal psychology that victim blaming is a method of controlling people and a major red flag. Wouldn’t we be doing Summer a disservice also by ignoring blatant red flags that may or may not have been related to her disappearance? When wives go missing and there is a history of DV with the husband, doesn’t that raise red flags? Not saying the husband is always involved but there are statistical correlations that I think most people very much would love to rule out. JMO.
Do you think that DW shouldn't be crucified for these terrible things? That's where this all started.
 
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Do you think that DW shouldn't be crucified for these terrible things? That's where this all started.
I guess I don’t believe he’s been crucified on the WS thread and that’s all I can comment on. I’m not sure the relevance of this question.
ETA: I don’t believe he has been crucified. I believe the words he chooses to use can be discussed. I also do not have any patience for his admitting to SA with his younger step-sisters (per CM interview) and I don’t believe he can use the disappearance of his daughter (which is HORRIBLE) as a pass for those words with no repercussions from the people who listen.
 
  • #285
I doubt that. What about the SA allegations? What about the DV incident?

You know ranch, I can overlook a lot. Sexual assault on a child, and then blaming the child? No. Even domestic violence I can ignore for the time being (even as a victim of DV). But assault on a child? Yeah, thats not something I am willing to ignore.
 
  • #286
You know ranch, I can overlook a lot. Sexual assault on a child, and then blaming the child? No. Even domestic violence I am ignore (even as a victim of DV). But assault on a child? Yeah, thats not something I am willing to ignore.
Of course not. That's the point I'm making. It's not just that DW is talking about himself and not Summer. JMO.
 
  • #287
If he was silent, you'd crucify him...

When he talks, you still crucify him.

People question everything, insinuate things, then wonder why he feels the need to make more videos to answer or prove said things.

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It's the victim blaming,and shaming a 5 year old SA survivor that does it for me. I'm appalled,and disgusted by that,and it sucks my soul that he slept with Summer since she was born. Even if he doesn't have anything to do with disappearing Summer. Sorry I just can't abide that. MOO
 
  • #288
I guess I don’t believe he’s been crucified on the WS thread and that’s all I can comment on. I’m not sure the relevance of this question.
ETA: I don’t believe he has been crucified. I believe the words he chooses to use can be discussed. I also do not have any patience for his admitting to SA with his younger step-sisters (per CM interview) and I don’t believe he can use the disappearance of his daughter (which is HORRIBLE) as a pass for those words with no repercussions from the people who listen.

I would have to agree, he hasn't been crucified here. People are only discussing the words that have come straight from DW himself. His own (very twisted and disturbing) admissions.

So I guess if he's being crucified, he's nailed himself to that cross. Jmo
 
  • #289
BTW, he spoke about that in msm over a month ago. He also complained about death threats that apparently weren't worth reporting to LE. I think the "hate crew" may be mainly in his own mind. JMO.

Wells: “Somebody made a fake (social media) account with me, and then they put on there that I buried some other woman’s body at the lake. So the TBI has been at the lake looking for her body. It’s just ridiculous what people are doing. And these psychics, and what they’re saying and doing whatever they can to get their story out there. The Bible says clearly it’s an abomination. When you’re with a psychic and you think you’re talking to your dead relatives, that’s untrue. Jesus made it clear that when you die you sleep until the resurrection. You have no conscious state whatsoever. So if you’re talking to somebody, it’s an evil spirit.”​
Watch now: 'I'll see her in the resurrection': A month later, Summer Wells' dad has little hope for her recovery
Oh, I guess it was "some woman" he was said to have put in the lake. I can't keep up with all the false information in this case. I don't think the "hate crew" is in his mind. LE has mentioned the SM gossip and rumors surrounding the case. It must be exhausting for them to have to weed through all the comments.

I don't know if it's still bad now but I can't imagine what else there is to speculate about. I wonder if LE knows any more than they knew in the first week Summer went missing.
 
  • #290
What happened to DW saying he knew she was, “far, far, hundreds of miles away “? :(
Whatever he says depends on which way the wind is blowing
 
  • #291
Not quite the personal anecdote I was hoping for about Summer from DW...

"Love and prayers to everybody. I'm sure Summer, she would say the same thing. She was always breaking up arguments and stuff, you know me and Candus was having a little argument or whatever she would always say stop you know and be nice and be good. She was...we love her and we miss her with all our hearts and everything we got. We love her and just hope and pray she's safe"

DON WELLS AND SISTER SPEAK OUT
Yeah if one person had been saved and all that….
 
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And even when he does talk about Summer it's in an odd way. He talks about how she loves him so much and has to be next to him and how he wakes up with her leg underneath him. And then tonight he talked about how she would mediate arguments between him and CB. What a heavy burden for a 5 year old IMO.
Tell me he didn't say they made that little girl mediate arguments between 2 huge adults.

so here she is sleeping in the same bed because " she wanted to BE with him", (says Don) she didn't like her own mother until, according to Don, she "coerced" Summer to like her. And now the burden was on her to not just sleep with them but to mediate their arguments. Poor Summer. Poor poor poor Summer.
 
  • #294
Wait did Mrs and Mr Cher just officially say they aren't suspects and we should trust them... This is bizarre.
I haven't watched the YouTubes except the recent one with three ex cops and one ex cop turned criminal lawyer that was recommended by a friend, but I think LE hasn't "officially" named any suspects. Saying "everyone is a suspect" is not the same thing.
To me, "everyone is a suspect" means they are investigating in more than one direction, which is a good thing.
Tunnel vision is often why cases go unsolved, if they focus in only one direction, they can miss the real perp and lose the evidence they could have collected.
Good investigators don't decide who they think is guilty and then look for evidence to support their beliefs, they follow all the evidence where it leads.
If they still don't have evidence for an arrest, it wouldn't be wise to put all their eggs in one basket.
 
  • #295
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I doubt that. What about the SA allegations? What about the DV incident?
Good points! The he said/she said SA allegations from 40 years ago, have nothing to do with Summer, imo. Just ugly, dysfunctional family feud junk to muddy the water now.

But the DV incident was last October and DW seemed to be clearly angry that his MIL called cops. iirc, in an interview with CM, he said he did NOT have a gun in his car. It's very possible he believes his MIL &/or CW are involved in taking Summer away from him.

If it is true that LE was called around 6:30, that is around the time Don said he arrived home. He said it was a 45-minute drive from his work location. I'm baffled why CW didn't notify LE right after she phoned DW.
 
  • #296
I realize that some things may be taken for granted in text conversations. I’m going to try to clarify as best I can…

In my opinion, I’m trying to focus on Summer. Whatever personal opinions I have, I’m trying to set those aside and only see what relates to Summer. My thinking goes like this: If there is a history of violence or SA in the family, that could have a bearing on Summer’s disappearance. If someone lashes out when angry or drinking, an accident could have occurred. With the SA piece, there’s a set of behaviors that opens up that I’m hoping can be eliminated, but we’d have to wait for LE to do so, IMO. Specifically, if an adult tried to do anything sexual with Summer (I have no knowledge of whether this happened, I am just trying to think through hypotheticals), that could have caused her to cry out or ask questions or could have even resulted in an injury due to her size (I would prefer not to elaborate). If this happened, because the family would not want to lose custody of their other children, I could then hypothesize that a family may try to minimize the harm to their family unit. I am NOT saying that is what happened. I also wonder if a sexual predator may feel more comfortable seeing the good in others with a history of SA, and whether or not that opens up the possibility of other people being on the property regularly who may not have good intentions. Add in alcohol use, possible other substances, and people’s judgment can become impaired and accidents may be more likely to happen. One example I could think of is perhaps someone trying to back up a vehicle and not being as aware as they should be.

I am just saying that since LE has said everything is on the table, we have to try to eliminate possibilities one at a time, IMO. I don’t think there’s any way to eliminate these things at this point due to the many contradictions in statements and that’s causing frustration.
 
  • #297
Tell me he didn't say they made that little girl mediate arguments between 2 huge adults.

so here she is sleeping in the same bed because " she wanted to BE with him", (says Don) she didn't like her own mother until, according to Don, she "coerced" Summer to like her. And now the burden was on her to not just sleep with them but to mediate their arguments. Poor Summer. Poor poor poor Summer.
Yes, he said it. :( @Allabouttrial kindly transcribed it too, starting at 39:12:

"Love and prayers to everybody. I'm sure Summer, she would say the same thing. She was always breaking up arguments and stuff, you know me and Candus was having a little argument or whatever she would always say stop you know and be nice and be good. She was...we love her and we miss her with all our hearts and everything we got. We love her and just hope and pray she's safe"

DON WELLS AND SISTER SPEAK OUT
 
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DW is no criminal mastermind that has fooled the TBI and FBI.
The public does not have the info that LE has, and to be honest DW or CB would be arrested already if LE had any reason to arrest them.
 
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