To all who believe Caylee is ALIVE, explain this?

[Mendara]

Could Casey be comfortable because she knows the child is alive and that she can produce her at anytime that she decides to call off this charade? No need to worry about a murder rap if you have the info that can prove it is not one. Meanwhile, money is pouring in for Casey and the parents arent mad at her anymore, and look at all the attn. Just a thought to consider if we want to consider all angles.

Maybe this is all a plan to make her a hero, maybe at the very las moment she will tell the world where little alive caylee is. That still doesn't explain the person who is hold her and their reasons to risk themselves in this entire thing. This also doe snot explain the 31 one days of lying about her whereabouts and only coming forward with a bizzare story AFTER your mother found you out. HOW FAR WAS SHE GOING TO TAKE THIS? What if Cindy never confronted her? Casey HAD to have KNOWN the car would be towed and her parents notified. Why didn't she go back to get her car? Why didn't Tony ask her why she didn't go back for her car????

 

[GizzySmith]

Show me the DNA evidence, show me the reports.
Dont show me a link where the Sheriff says "evidence". Show me the actual reports.

All Im saying, to stay objective and remember words are words, evidence is evidence.

Not going to happen, unless you are on the jury IMHO
Why would the actual reports be released to the public? It's going to be hard enough IMHO to find a jury of 12 at this point if murder charges are brought.

 

[secreteye]

Why would Casey delete pictures, over 200 picures of Caylee on her facebook and myspace pages? If she was alive and out there somewhere-wouldn't you leave the pictures up and leave access so that as many people possible would know what she looked like? Big deal if you get nasty messages. That would even enter the picture for me, if my kid was missing and I had nothing to do with it, I could care less what people thought of me. I would just want my kid's pic everywhere! Those networks are huge. It's because Casey doesn't want a reminder of Caylee whenever she logs onto her favorite internet activity. She can't even say Caylee's name. No sketch, yet she knew her for 4 years. No photos. No communication whatsoever. Casey knows exactly what happened and she is doing whatever she can to save her butt. Which won't happen because LE has a lot they haven't released. No wonder Baez is flipping out and filing motions that are gonna make him look even more like a clown than he already is.

I have put my pictures on cd's many times and then deleted them on my computer to make room for more. Is there anything saying that Casey didn't do that?

 

[seagull65]

Another thing that keeps us guessing is the slight irregularities among other players stories, for example, one of TL's roommates says Casey never had Caylee there with her, the other roommate says yeah she brought Caylee there with her. The one who said Caylee was never there has since kind of vanished from the picture, no longer lives there, if what I read is correct. So, who's telling the truth? Why the irregularities cropping up here and there. One thing that I wonder about is how quickly some of her "friends" turned on her. That seems strange to me.

 

[Brini]

As for the evidence, I've always thought they didn't have to disprove it, they just have to provide reasonable doubt, I always hear that the "the burden Is on the state to prove the defendant guilty as charged In the indictment beyond all reasonable doubt" (borrowed from a court website).

If there is ANY chance is could be something else,
ex. The decomposition and DNA in the trunk, it "could" be urine.

The Chloroform in the trunk, "could have" been created by mixing the urine and chlorine (from a swimming pool) or alcohol.

Urine cannot possibly be mistaken for tissue decomposiion. It differs greatly in appearance, odor, and most of all, in chemical composition.

Let's say someone mixed up a batch of chloroform from the chemicals that you have listed above. Why did they do it? What are they using it for? Why were they carrying it, in the car.

BTW-- Urine is not a chloroform ingredient.

 

[raeann]

No, lets clarify.... My opinion as a poster on this board is: KC did it, Caylee is dead and she looks bad all the way around.

My opinion as a professional Investigator not associated with the case: is that there is just as much "real, hard, provable evidence" that this child is as alive as she is dead. Will LE lie to get information.. ALL DAY, EVERYDAY and ABOUT EVERYTHING!! So in my opinion, it is just as plausible as it is not. I think LE has allready turned over more evidence than it should to the public. It's none of our business, we have no right to information on a pending investigation and serves no purpose to the truth other than corrupting a potential jury pool and swaying the public toward an opinion.

Please understand, LE does not make a habit of allowing potential killers to walk the streets, even during an investigation. And honestly it scares me that so many people are just accepting what they are hearing as facts. It honestly explains why the country is in the mess it is. Just be objective, dont take every "word" as fact, truth or evidence.

Wow, what a logical, thoughtful and reasonable position! This is what I have been trying to say, also. You have made the point quite well.

 

[seagull65]

yes, I really call them LIES, quite elaborate , detailed lies, consistent with her regular behavior....according to her own mother.

Really? What purpose would these lies serve then, they definitely weren't attempts to actually fool the police because they were things that would be exposed immediately.

 

[secreteye]

This is a very interesting question- that has not occurred to me before (who knows why). But really- when you run out of gas- do you call to have someone pick you up- or do you ask them to bring gas so you can go on your way?

I think the latter.

Of course unless you let a dead body stink up your car and can't tolerate the smell anymore.

Has anything been brought forth saying that Casey was driving this car the night/morning that it was left in the parking lot with no gas? Just asking.

 

[SUR]

Still waiting for evidence of Caylee being alive....If you don't believe LE's statements without seeing the results in black and white explain to me how you can believe anything that the A's have said? Where is the proof that anything the A's have said proved true? Plz list them because I haven't seen any proof that anything that has come from the A's has been proven true.

Listen to the whole video.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/M....jsp?contentId=7394244&version=1&locale=EN-US

 

[Brini]

Another thing that keeps us guessing is the slight irregularities among other players stories, for example, one of TL's roommates says Casey never had Caylee there with her, the other roommate says yeah she brought Caylee there with her. The one who said Caylee was never there has since kind of vanished from the picture, no longer lives there, if what I read is correct. So, who's telling the truth? Why the irregularities cropping up here and there. One thing that I wonder about is how quickly some of her "friends" turned on her. That seems strange to me.

The friends turned on her, because they found out she may have dome away with her child. The also now know that she's a chronic liar and thief.

As for different stories about Caylee being at Tony's-- the guys said the place was a 24/7 house. People can flop there, if they need a place to stay, or partied too much, the night before. There are people in and out all the time.

 

[Brini]

The lack of concrete evidence.
The lack of evidcence that she can be arrested on.
The lack of evidence that can be used in court, WITHOUT BEING ARGUED.
Oh yeah - the missing body, the missing murder weapon, the missing motive.

Wanting to party isnt a good enough motive. Her grandparents would thave kept her. Wanting to be in power isn't enough to kill your child, imo.

Edit:
I havent had any sleep so I am not coming across correctly. I know it is admissible, but it can be argued. DNA can not.


It doesn't matter who is right. All that matters is that she needs to be brought home, dead or alive, and people keep forgetting that.

Nobody HERE has forgotten that she needs to be brought home, dead or alive.

 

[concentric]

The question gnawing at my me is this:

Is it Casey who murdered Caylee, or someone else?

 

[Brini]

I havent had any sleep so I am not coming across correctly. I know it is admissible, but it can be argued. DNA can not.

So, whose hair has the death band? The DNA is from Cindy, Casey, or Caylee. It's mitochondrial DNA, so it is matrilineal. Which one is dead-- Cindy, Casey, or Caylee.

 

[Blink34]

Has anything been brought forth saying that Casey was driving this car the night/morning that it was left in the parking lot with no gas? Just asking.

What do you mean specifically? Other than the discovery docs with the witness statements? GA drove it home from impound without getting gas so it could not have been out.

 

[STEADFAST]

Regarding Casey's "lying", would you really call the things she told police "lies". To me, they didn't make enough sense to be lies. She was either totally confused, in shock, or something like that, OR she was giving cryptic answers that she wanted her family to follow up on privately, or she was hoping by leading the police to these particular locations they would stumble on the truth because she's afraid to tell who it really is, or she was trying to buy time because she thought Caylee was going to be returned...I'm not sure yet.

But she wasn't totally confused and in shock for the past two years while she lied to her friends and family about working at Universal -- which is one of the lies she also told police.

Was she in shock when she told Tony her car had broken down and that her father was going to come fix it -- though really it had run out of gas and had traces of human decomposition in it, and she wouldn't be in contact with her father for 19 more days?

Actually, her story did make sense. Before she went to work, she left her daughter at an apartment with a long-time nanny who kidnapped the child. Except work=lie, apartment=lie, nanny=lie, kidnap=lie.

 

[Brini]

The lack of concrete evidence.
The lack of evidcence that she can be arrested on.
The lack of evidence that can be used in court, WITHOUT BEING ARGUED.
Oh yeah - the missing body, the missing murder weapon, the missing motive.

Wanting to party isnt a good enough motive. Her grandparents would thave kept her. Wanting to be in power isn't enough to kill your child, imo.

Edit:
I havent had any sleep so I am not coming across correctly. I know it is admissible, but it can be argued. DNA can not.


It doesn't matter who is right. All that matters is that she needs to be brought home, dead or alive, and people keep forgetting that.

The only one who has forgotten that Caylee needs to be brought home is Casey.

 

[SewingDeb]

Raeann, I'm not arguing with you. Maybe Nancy Grace needs better attorney guests, maybe not.

 

[Brini]

it has been said numerous times that the band around the hair showing decomp can have false positives.

By what forensic expert? That test has been considered boh easy and solid.

 

[raeann]

If it were a drug related problem causing Casey to lie and act the way she is, then half of America in that age range would be out losing their children and lying about it. I'm not buying that.

Actually, in the time since Caylee has been missing, dozens and dozens of other children have been purposely killed or died through blatant acts of neglect at the hands of their caretakers. While the care and concern for Caylee is justified, each of these children were just as valuable as she is and deserve the same outpouring of outrage over their deaths. If posters want to actually DO something significant to honor Caylee, then please volunteer your time or give a donation to a local organization that devotes itself to protecting and helping such young victims.

 

[concentric]

My interpretation of the evidence so far:

a. Caylee is dead
b. Casey disposed of her body
c. but...did Casey murder her? That is questionable still.