Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Are Divorcing

[Steely Dan]

More on the e-meter; http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/E-Meter/tbite.html

...What The Meter Does

The basic claims for what the e-meter does (besides measure body resistance) are summarized in the statement below, taken from pages 5 and 6:

Tests conclusively show that an individual's emotional state, his thoughts, etc., instantly raise or lower the electrical resistance of the body. Thus the meter is an extremely valuable tool in the hands of a trained auditor... We in Scientology have come to accept the fact that the E-Meter ``talks'' to us.

We rarely give much thought to the hours and hours of work and research put in by L. Ron Hubbard, resulting in the perfect instrument -- the Mark V -- and an exact exposition of what the various readings and changes mean.

How much credence should we give to these claims? Is the Church willing to stand behind them? From the copyright page:

This book is part of the works of L. Ron Hubbard who developed Dianetics spiritual healing technology and Scientology applied religious philosophy. It is presented to the reader as a record of observations and research into the nature of the human mind and spirit, and not as a statement of claims made by the author.

In other words, ``This stuff is not supposed to be factual; it may well be rubbish. Don't try to hold us responsible. Hubbard wrote it; we publish it.'' From the same page:

The Hubbard Electrometer, or E-meter, is a device which is sometimes used in Dianetics and Scientology. In itself, the E-meter does nothing. It is not intended or effective for the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of any disease, or for the improvement of health or any bodily function.

This despite the fact that Scientology claims that 70% of all illness is psychosomatic and can be cured with auditing!...




Hubbard also wrote;

Ordinary "tin" cans with the paper label stripped off are preferred. Although they are less attractive, they give a more accurate response.

However, that's not what they use. :what:

 

[PAXIMUS]

First of all you can google Scientology terms dictionary and it explains all the lingo, it is way too much for me to explain unless you have a specific term in mind.

Let me explain Scientology for dummies and I am not calling any of you dummies just using the name of a popular book as an example.

The backstory first, Lord Xenu is a galactic king and warrior he takes all the bad guys in his kingdom the criminals etc and he loads them all up on a ship and sends them to EARTH puts them in a VOLCANO and explodes the volcano with a nuclear device killing them all, but in Scientology we all have a SOUL or SPIRIT as some religions call it, in Scientology (Scno for short from now on) this soul is called a THETAN look up the word THETA and you will understand why. So when all these criminals were killed their SOULS or THETANS as scno calls them escaped from the volcano and they now roam the earth looking for another BODY TO INHABIT, they are all around us, for example if you get cancer, have a metal illness or you are gay, all examples, these are what scno calls BODY THETANS these criminals that roam the earth in spirit form CLINGING TO YOU and taking over your body because maybe one of them were gay or had cancer and now it has taken over your body and you are now gay or have cancer because of it. The objective of scno is to CLEAR YOU of those body thetans that are causing you these problems, thats why they say they can CURE mental illness, cancer, homosexuality etc, because RON developed a process to GET RID OF THEM from your body, to get rid of these BODY THETANS that have taken you over and are causing you to be sick, to be gay, to be a thief, to have cancer, to be depressed etc. When you join COS you are called a PRE CLEAR once you go through the auditing process this is designed to clear you of all your body thetans that have taken over your body and caused you the above mentioned problems. Once you are cleared of these body thetans you are then referred in scno as a CLEARED OPERATING THETAN, or OT, after this you go to the next levels OT 1, OT 2, OT 3, OT 4 all the way up to about OT 9 I think at the highest OT they promise you SUPER POWER like superman that costs tens of thousands of dollars and I THINK Tom Cruise is the only one who has gotten that far and many in the church believe he has super powers and I think even he BELIEVES IT, but that has never been documented to be true but in the lower OTs once you have been CLEARED and are on OT operating thetan they then go to PAST LIVES that you have lived before this one and then try and CLEAR YOU OF THE BODY THETANS that inhabited your body IN THOSE PAST LIVES and this goes back thousands of past lives with each level of OT, OT1, OT2 etc etc,each one examines your past lives and tries to clear you of these body thetans that have inhabited you in those lives and caused you problems then in those past lives. You pay a lot of money for each OT level with the promise that with each one you will become more sane, more healthy, less gay, less mentally ill, less of a drug addict whatever it may be that is causing you problems.

Now a lot of this IF PRACTICED properly is NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, those who DO TAKE IT LITERALLY are usually shipped off to SEA ORG for hard labor and little pay because they obviously do not have the intellectual capacity to read between the lines wrt what these teachings really mean and how they can help you, those that DO GET IT and from what I know I went to OT 3 before I left because I was only there for a journalism story (which they did not know about) they said I did get it and held a lot of promise if I continued up the BRIDGE as they call it meaning to continue up the OT levels and learning more and more about my past lives and the things that were causing me problems. Fortunately I did not have to pay because my "Handler" in the church was a friend from college and he let me slide so I learned a lot for free. BUT AGAIN if you really study this stuff PROPERLY and understand it in PROPER CONTEXT it really does make sense and CAN HELP YOU< unfortuntely very few people are really understanding it and it is being misused to make a lot of people very wealthy.

SO to CLEAR THE PLANET means they want to CLEAR every living humn being of these BODY THETANS that are trying to take them over and which make them sick with depression, cancer, homosexuality etc. The intentions are indeed GOOD but the church is being led by a maniac who is ALTERED the teachings for his own sinister reasons and is instead using what he learns about people in auditing sessions which are like CONFESSIONALS to BLACKMAIL them and keep them from leaving and to continue paying money.

I gotta run for a bit BUT ANY QUESTIONS just ask I will be happy to answer and REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A VERY OVERSIMPLIFIED EXPLANATION there is MUCH MORE TO IT so this is just keeping it simple as in SCIENTOLOGY FOR DUMMIES lol.


Agaian any questions just ask and I will help you any way I can. I AM NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST I dont practice it anymore but I did find it helpful in some ways for me now I prefer Buddhism but in truth they are both VERY SIMILAR again IF YOURE DOING IT RIGHT, if youre not doing it right then even Buddhism like Scientiology can cause great harm and misery to you and others around you.

 

[Steely Dan]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuszShLYqT4&feature=related"]The Video Scientology is Trying to Ban - YouTube[/ame]

 

[PAXIMUS]

Now having said all of that many of you are going to say "what kind of kooky crap is that." Well again it really isnt any more kooky than what some other religions believe for example Jesus dying and coming back to life, the Mormons believe ever male who dies gets to become a god of his own planet like the god of the old testament is the god of our planet a male Mormon when he dies will become the god of another planet and populate it like the OT god did and he will rule over it, thats kooky too but there is a hidden deeper meaning to that.


Let me give you a real life example of what Scno hidden meaning can teach, lets say for example as a child you get mauled by a pit bull, all your life you will grow up and everytime you see a pit bull or any dog perhaps it will bring back those bad memories, you will suffer from anxiety and be scared for life because of that event, so scno can help you work through that, it is very much like therapy but with a lot more bells and whistles to make it look much more appealing as we all know humans live shiny things. This is a deeper meaning of a body thetan something that has happened to you in the past that is still causing your problems that needs to be worked through so you can get rid of that fear of the pit bull or dogs in general, etc. This again is over simplified but a general overview of what some of the deeper meanings behind the scno teachings are all about.

 

[Steely Dan]

First of all you can google Scientology terms dictionary and it explains all the lingo, it is way too much for me to explain unless you have a specific term in mind.

Let me explain Scientology for dummies and I am not calling any of you dummies just using the name of a popular book as an example.

The backstory first, Lord Xenu is a galactic king and warrior he takes all the bad guys in his kingdom the criminals etc and he loads them all up on a ship and sends them to EARTH puts them in a VOLCANO and explodes the volcano with a nuclear device killing them all, but in Scientology we all have a SOUL or SPIRIT as some religions call it, in Scientology (Scno for short from now on) this soul is called a THETAN look up the word THETA and you will understand why. So when all these criminals were killed their SOULS or THETANS as scno calls them escaped from the volcano and they now roam the earth looking for another BODY TO INHABIT, they are all around us, for example if you get cancer, have a metal illness or you are gay, all examples, these are what scno calls BODY THETANS these criminals that roam the earth in spirit form CLINGING TO YOU and taking over your body because maybe one of them were gay or had cancer and now it has taken over your body and you are now gay or have cancer because of it. The objective of scno is to CLEAR YOU of those body thetans that are causing you these problems, thats why they ay they can CURE mental illness, cancer, homosexuality etc, because RON developed a process to GET RID OF THEM from your body, to get rid of these BODY THETANS that have taken you over and are causing you to be sick, to be gay, to be a thief, to have cancer, to be depressed etc. When you join COS you are called a PRE CLEAR once you go through the auditing process this is designed to clear you of all your body thetans that have taken over your body and caused you the above mentioned problems. Once you are cleared of these body thetans you are then referred in scno as a CLEARED OPERATING THETAN, or OT, after this you go to the next levels OT 1, OT 2, OT 3, OT 4 all the way up to about OT 9 I think at OT 9 they promise you SUPER POWER like superman, but that has never been documented to be true but in the lower OTs once you have been CLEARED and are on OT operating thetan they then go to PAST LIVES that you have lived before this one and then try and CLEAR YOU OF THE BODY THETANS that inhabited your body IN THOSE PAST LIVES and this goes back thousands of past lives with each level of OT, OT1, OT2 etc etc,each one examines your past lives and tries to clear you of these body thetans that have inhabited you in those lives and caused you problems then in those past lives. You pay a lot of money for each OT level with the promise that with each one you will become more sane, more healthy, less gay, less mentally ill, less of a drug addict whatever it may be that is causing you problems.

Now a lot of this IF PRACTICED properly is NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, those who DO TAKE IT LITERALLY are usually shipped off to SEA ORG for hard labor and little pay because they obviously do not have the intellectual capacity to read between the lines wrt what these teachings really mean and how they can help you, those that DO GET IT and from what I know I went to OT 3 before I left because I was only there for a journalism story (which they did not know about) they aid I did get it and held a lot of promise if I continued up the BRIDGE as they call it meaning to continue up the OT levels and learning more and more about my past lives and the things that were causing me problems. Fortunately I did not have to pay because my "Handler" in the church was a friend from college and he let me slide so I learned a lot for free. BUT AGAIN if you really study this stuff PROPERLY and understand it in PROPER CONTEXT it really does make sense and CAN HELP YOU< unfortuntely very few people are really understanding it and it is being misused to make a lot of people very wealthy.

SO to CLEAR THE PLANET means they want to CLEAR every living humn being of these BODY THETANS that are trying to take them over and which make them sick with depression, cancer, homosexuality etc. The intentions are indeed GOOD but the church is being led by a maniac who is ALTERED the teachings for his own sinister reasons and is instead using what he learns about people in auditing sessions which are like CONFESSIONALS to BLACKMAIL them and keep them from leaving and to continue paying money.

I gotta run for a bit BUT ANY QUESTIONS just ask I will be happy to answer and REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A VERY OVERSIMPLIFIED EXPLANATION there is MUCH MORE TO IT so this is just keeping it simple as in SCIENTOLOGY FOR DUMMIES lol.


Agaian any questions just ask and I will help you any way I can. I AM NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST I dont practice it anymore but I did find it helpful in some ways for me now I prefer Buddhism but in truth they are both VERY SIMILAR again IF YOURE DOING IT RIGHT, if youre not doing it right then even Buddhism like Scientiology can cause great harm and misery to you and others around you.

Thank you PAXIMUS. I think I'd be able to continue up the bridge because I think I get it. It's basically the same thing as talk psychiatry. You're going over the bad experiences of your life and trying to "clear" your mind of those things so you can function better in spite of them. You're learning to deal with them and not repress them.

I believe that scientology hates psychiatry because it can cure people as well or better than scientology. They also don't like drugs because they can help with chemical imbalances. If psychiatry can help someone or drugs can cure a chemical imbalance then that's a potential customer scientology loses. JMO

 

[PAXIMUS]

A couple of often used terms are CLAM and WOG, a CLAM is a Scientologist and a WOG is a non-Scientologist.



I used to say that Travolta with all these people claiming he molests them in spas should stick to CLAM SPAS because nothing good is going to happen for a CLAM in a WOG SPA. LOL

 

[PAXIMUS]

Thank you PAXIMUS. I think I'd be able to continue up the bridge because I think I get it. It's basically the same thing as talk psychiatry. You're going over the bad experiences of your life and trying to "clear" your mind of those things so you can function better in spite of them. You're learning to deal with them and not repress them.

I believe that scientology hates psychiatry because it can cure people as well or better than scientology. They also don't like drugs because they can help with chemical imbalances. If psychiatry can help someone or drugs can cure a chemical imbalance then that's a potential customer scientology loses. JMO

Yes while there is a little more to it than that you are absolutely on the right track and you would probably be able to read the processes (teachings) of RON between the lines and see what is really being said, remember he was a sci fi writer so he is obviously using sci fi to teach something deeper even if you watch star trek or star wars if you study them it is more than just Vader and Luke going at it, there are deeper meanings there that one either gets or they do not get it.

But yes youre on the right track also keep in mind that this is not what the COS wants people to see because they dont want you cured or helped they want to sick and crazed so you keep coming back for more and spending more BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT RONs TEACHING ORIGINALLY WERE ALL ABOUT.

 

[21merc7]

I couldn't resist this one, TC's best role :giggle:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxU_XW6WouY&feature=related"]Secret Tom Cruise Scientology Promotion Video Leaked - YouTube[/ame]

 

[prima.facie]

Now having said all of that many of you are going to say "what kind of kooky crap is that." Well again it really isnt any more kooky than what some other religions believe for example Jesus dying and coming back to life, the Mormons believe ever male who dies gets to become a god of his own planet like the god of the old testament is the god of our planet a male Mormon when he dies will become the god of another planet and populate it like the OT god did and he will rule over it, thats kooky too but there is a hidden deeper meaning to that.

THAT is the point ive been trying to make......but you said it so much better.....

while we may view scientology and all as crazy....this girl who literally grew up in the christian church (various denominations) can say that the things in the bible are JUST as crazy!!

the bible talks of things flying around (many believe they are UFOS); others believe angles and demons. a being that nobody saw talked to humans on Earth. people possessed, speaking to unseen beings...people filled with a holy spirit and speaking in a foreign language unknown to man.....a man who could bring people back to life and heal sick people. people singing, dancing and raising their hands to an unseen being....drinking wine and bread symbolizing a man's body and blood....
how the heck is any of that different than the spacey sci fi stuff that RLH talked about?? or the stuff the COS practices today.....and the very very long list of "craziness" in the christian religion goes on.....

as far as the cultish controlling aspects.....you have the GUILT (of sinning and tithing and not worshiping the unseen being and attending services being preached by a human w/ his own interpretations of said bible). christian denominations where some man (a pastor/preacher/minister/priest/leader) places on its people while reading from a book of RULES & REGULATIONS for that religion/denomination while standing up on a pulpit. GUILT can be a major major major controlling thing - not much more than what these former scientologists claim. to this day, while I may not be involved in church and all that, the guilt that was laid upon me growing up is something i battle with to this day. it still has a control on me to where i have to battle it!

cult &#8194; &#8194;[kuhlt]

noun
1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.

3. the object of such devotion.

4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.

5. Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

 

[Steely Dan]

I couldn't resist this one, TC's best role :giggle:

Secret Tom Cruise Scientology Promotion Video Leaked - YouTube

Is that really TC, and if so what's it from? :waitasec:

 

[21merc7]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a85pK7PRxq0&feature=related"]Ex-Scientologist tells of life inside the CCHR war on psychiatry - YouTube[/ame]

 

[21merc7]

Is that really TC, and if so what's it from? :waitasec:

Magnolia, by PT Anderson. Great film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0175880/

ETA: Just to clarify, there was no Scientology stuff in the film. That short clip was someone's joke about it being TC's best role b/c he plays himself.

 

[SyraKelly]

Thank you PAXIMUS. I think I'd be able to continue up the bridge because I think I get it. It's basically the same thing as talk psychiatry. You're going over the bad experiences of your life and trying to "clear" your mind of those things so you can function better in spite of them. You're learning to deal with them and not repress them.

I believe that scientology hates psychiatry because it can cure people as well or better than scientology. They also don't like drugs because they can help with chemical imbalances. If psychiatry can help someone or drugs can cure a chemical imbalance then that's a potential customer scientology loses. JMO

I think I get it to-just as you said Steely-but also with each step up the bridge to be clear-it cost more money with each step-am I right about this-:waitasec:

 

[Steely Dan]

BTW, I've been thinking about the next TC wife search committee. I think the next wife will have to be a devoted scientologist already. I don't think the church wants another thing like this happening. Especially now that Katie has invented the blueprint for escape.

 

[SyraKelly]

BTW, I've been thinking about the next TC wife search committee. I think the next wife will have to be a devoted scientologist already. I don't think the church wants another thing like this happening. Especially now that Katie has invented the blueprint for escape.

ITA-I can see now-how many Hollywood wives will being using this blueprint to--We may see a lot of this :what:LOL

 

[21merc7]

BTW, I've been thinking about the next TC wife search committee. I think the next wife will have to be a devoted scientologist already. I don't think the church wants another thing like this happening. Especially now that Katie has invented the blueprint for escape.

It's pretty messed up when you just stopped caring about your own life so much so that you let other's make such life decisions for you, isn't it? Maybe since he's 50 they leave him alone and just let him work, no marriages. None of them are helping his PR.

 

[Steely Dan]

Magnolia, by PT Anderson. Great film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0175880/

ETA: Just to clarify, there was no Scientology stuff in the film. That short clip was someone's joke about it being TC's best role b/c he plays himself.

I heard Magnolia was a great film and I wanted to see it, but I never did. I figured it was something he did and then others added all the scientology stuff.

I think I get it to-just as you said Steely-but also with each step up the bridge to be clear-it cost more money with each step-am I right about this-:waitasec:

Yes, lots and lot of dough.

 

[21merc7]

Have to read subtitles here:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3y7W1W4V4&feature=related"]Inside a cult - Scientology - MUST WATCH - Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZKG52VQ0F0&feature=relmfu"]Inside a cult - Scientology - MUST WATCH - Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfCSFmAVRhM&feature=relmfu"]Inside a cult - Scientology - MUST WATCH - Part 3 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[21merc7]

Scientology film, the 8 dynamics:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZLCJmTOfA&feature=related"]Scientology Beliefs: The Eight Dynamics - YouTube[/ame]

and LRH on Xenu

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwfxuQtgGE0&feature=related"]The History Of Xenu, As Explained By L. Ron Hubbard In 8 Minutes - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Steely Dan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=4-NxNcDI8Xw&NR=1