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[gitana1]

This is big from what I understand-sorry-you have scroll up to read story

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/treason-assignment-david-miscavige/#comments

Do you know why this is big?

 

[SyraKelly]

Do you know why this is big?

I am a shame to say-No-I get from the story & letter that they are a very
big group & powerful in their country & from the comments these people are well loved.I have only recently started probing this church & am still learning.
I was hoping someone here could explain it to me--

 

[21merc7]

a couple of things I wanted to share- TC wanted to be a monk & priest. There are some articles out there that TC claimed his father treated him really bad as a child.
Today is the memorial for Alex-may he RIP & his mother find the answers of what happened.There is still no news about Heber-maybe they will all write about today-I'll keep checking

Off to read the Freeh report on Sandusky!!

You have a good soul, Merc.

TC has discussed his abusive background, so you were dead on. I guess you saw something in him.

Maybe what I am seeing in TC is not cruelty but deep anger and pain. It makes perfect sense that he would be searching for a way to heal his heart.

Thanks for telling me this. I did not know.

Guess some of us see a common energy sometimes (Sorry I shared too much personal info, but that is where the "seeing" came from) , maybe why he is friends with DM. (Meaning DM is his father-the bad one, but TC was taken in by the charming side and has yet to figure it out yet, or knows and is trying to face it). I don't know. I saw what I saw. Thanks for letting me know I'm not just imagining things even from the silver screen.

 

[21merc7]

Do you know why this is big?

I'm not sure, but the "Assignment of Treason" letter is for the Israel Center. Don't know that a letter amounts to much, or what it will ultimately mean.

Scroll down the pdf I guess. It's over my head at this moment.

http://markrathbun.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/an-open-letter-to-all-scientologists.pdf

 

[TobyWong*]

This is big from what I understand-sorry-you have scroll up to read story

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/treason-assignment-david-miscavige/#comments

wow! I'm impressed that they put it all in writitng and are asking others to do the same, that are upset w/ the way dm is running this business into the ground. They question who is holding title to properties and are putting down on paper for the general public (tho addressed to scientologists) in writing specific "laws" or rules that they believe are being broken by dm. I think I'm even more impressed with how much they really do value their organization and are going to fight for it.
imo it's big cause it's very public, it's damning to dm, and they recite "law" which I don't think "they" like "us" to know until you pay enough to earn the right to know.imo

 

[SyraKelly]

wow! I'm impressed that they put it all in writitng and are asking others to do the same, that are upset w/ the way dm is running this business into the ground. They question who is holding title to properties and are putting down on paper for the general public (tho addressed to scientologists) in writing specific "laws" or rules that they believe are being broken by dm. I think I'm even more impressed with how much they really do value their organization and are going to fight for it.
imo it's big cause it's very public, it's damning to dm, and they recite "law" which I don't think "they" like "us" to know until you pay enough to earn the right to know.imo

Thank you for explaining it to me!I do not know enough about COS to know how big this is.I just got that feeling from the story & comments

 

[Fairy1]

The letter is very interesting. I'm unclear as to whom it was sent. And so much of the lingo is over my head. Maybe Paximus can shed some light?

WTH does "clearing the planet" mean? That sounds so diabolical!

DM is clearly being targeted by his own flock. To whom does he answer - within the organization, I mean? He is the chairman, right? So, is there a board of directors?

He should be made to answer to the FBI, I think. I'm feeling more and more certain he belongs in prison!

 

[Steely Dan]

The letter is very interesting. I'm unclear as to whom it was sent. And so much of the lingo is over my head. Maybe Paximus can shed some light?

WTH does "clearing the planet" mean? That sounds so diabolical!

DM is clearly being targeted by his own flock. To whom does he answer - within the organization, I mean? He is the chairman, right? So, is there a board of directors?

He should be made to answer to the FBI, I think. I'm feeling more and more certain he belongs in prison!

Clearing the planet means making everyone "clear". That's a scientology term for removing all of the bad things from yourself. Hence "clearing the planet" means removing all of the bad things from people's souls. It's a nice idea.

 

[Fairy1]

Clearing the planet means making everyone "clear". That's a scientology term for removing all of the bad things from yourself. Hence "clearing the planet" means removing all of the bad things from people's souls. It's a nice idea.

A lovely idea, indeed.

Good luck with that y'all!

 

[PAXIMUS]

The story is that a galactic warrior/king XENU, didnt know what to do with all of the criminals in his galactic kingdom so he came up with the idea who put them all on a ship and throw them all in a VOLCANO on earth and then he used a nuclear device to blow the volcano up and the SOULS or SPIRITS, what are called THEATANS in Scientology are now wondering the earth and they CLING TO YOU, ALL OF US and they are the ones who cause us all of our problems from sickness to cancer to abortion to being gay you name it is because of them and they are clinging on you trying to take over your VEHICLE (the body), Scientology auditing is designed to help you get rid of them so they dont cling to you anymore trying to steal and inhabit your body, whenever you do something bad etc this is one of them getting in to your body nd taking over, the auditing process with the emeter can help you get rid of them. Once you do you become CLEAR and then you move on to the OT levels of which I a an OT II when I ROUTED OUT, routing out means leaving, anyone can leave they just ask that you route out properly which usually involves signing paper that you wont disclose any secrets or teach Scientology without Church oversite, those who dont route and leave is called BLOWING BASE and those are the ones the Church goes after. I only routed out properly and didnt blow because I was thee for journalistic purposes and I didnt want to burn any bridges in case I needed to go back in for another story which I can do since I didnt blow base without a proper route out. Needless to say the papers they make you sign furing route out which are like a gag order are not enforceable in court but they mke you believe they are just like the contract a Sea Org ember signs for ONE BILLIONS YEARS of service they tell you its a lega contract but it isnt and there isnt anything they can do to do EXCEPT disconnect you from friends and family who are still in if you break any of those contracts for Sea Org or route out.

Now Ia not going to explain that in ESOTERIC terms because I m curious to see who is able to really GET IT and see what is REALLY BEING SUGGESTED here by Ron, hint, it s not to be taken LITERALLY, it is a story that is designed to help those who hve the ability to see deeper meaning and read between the lines, sure he could just come out and say it and not shroud it in some strange story but you cant do that in matters of spiritual teachings as those matters cannot be put in to words properly so you can understand them, you hve to work at it and put in the commitment to learn what these stories are trying to tell you/us, and once you do, I promise you that yours eyes will be opened and you will see an experience things like never before. I have said it all along Scientology does work but you have to work at it nd study and learn the ability to look past the strange stories and find the real meaning behind them, I cant do that for you, nobody can and to try is dangerous because you may not be spiritually prepared to learn it and then become someone like DM and will use the information for selfish and sinister purposes.

But you will just have to trust me when I say that these are stories with deeper meaning you just have to work and meditate upon them to find those hidden or esoteric meanings. I am NOT a Scientologist but I did learn it nd practiced it for a long time and it was useful, today I chose Buddhism as my tool ofor various reasons none of which have to do with anything that is bad about Scientology. But mostly because I live 3 doors down from a Buddhis temple where I can go and study with monks everyday.

 

[Steely Dan]

This is not a comment on your post PAXIMUS

 

[Steely Dan]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SulGil3dEq8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA32A75C6B6976B29"]Anderson Cooper 360 The ramifications of leaving Scientology PART 4 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP1XXgooQhQ&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA32A75C6B6976B29"]Scientology: A History of Violence Part 5A - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2qAdTbHNDU&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLA32A75C6B6976B29"]Scientology: A History of Violence Part 5B - YouTube[/ame]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLA32A75C6B6976B29&feature=fvwrel&NR=1&v=M0JbP9MaVyQ

 

[21merc7]

Nothing new to add yet, going through the videos that have been posted and being sure to watch them all. Maybe not all today.

If you have not watched the ones Steely posted on psychopathy, and you have ever had a troubled relationship, be sure to watch them. They are posted around 330 something post numbers. Very eye opening to me.

 

[Steely Dan]

Nothing new to add yet, going through the videos that have been posted and being sure to watch them all. Maybe not all today.

If you have not watched the ones Steely posted on psychopathy, and you have ever had a troubled relationship, be sure to watch them. They are posted around 330 something post numbers. Very eye opening to me.

Thanks,

I also have threads on psychopaths and a thread on narcissism.

 

[Steely Dan]

Alexander Jentzsch is dead and nobody knows where his dad is.

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/category/tech/black-dianetics-tech/

Alexander Jentzsch – In Memoriam
Posted on July 14, 2012 by martyrathbun09

In spite of Alexander being coerced economically and emotionally to turn on his mother and act as an Office of Special Affairs (OSA) spy against her and the independent movement (see Karen De La Carriere), it appears that at the end of his life Alexander’s only friends were Karen De La Carriere and her friends. Karen organized and conducted a funeral ceremony aboard a boat sailing out of Los Angeles on 13 July. Photos below are from that event....

 

[21merc7]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQKJdT5vwRs&feature=related"]Cults - Dangerous Devotion (Decoding the Past) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Steely Dan]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNgtiICesU&feature=related"]Scientology Unmasked - The E-Meter - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHDMEBoOYXo&feature=related"]E-Meter Autopsy Part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkXlhSVc8Kw"]E-Meter Autopsy Part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[SyraKelly]

I have found out why that letter in my post up thread was so important-It is b/c an entire org left the church.I do not know how many people this includes-I wish I knew though.

Gitana-I hope I did not offended you-Sometimes I read posts the wrong way-It happens a lot with me as I am a blonde-LOL

 

[PAXIMUS]

I have found out why that letter in my post up thread was so important-It is b/c an entire org left the church.I do not know how many people this includes-I wish I knew though.

Gitana-I hope I did not offended you-Sometimes I read posts the wrong way-It happens a lot with me as I am a blonde-LOL

Juat to be clear it was a MISSION that left, a mission in Israel, there is a difference between a mission and an ORG, a mission is a very small group of Scientologists an Org is much much bigger, the mission that left was made up of about 50 people. It is still a big loss because Israel doesnt have much of a COS presence there is only one other ORG in Tel Aviv and now this smaller mission which I understand was growing pretty fast, has broke off.


This all reminds me of the schism between the Catholics and the Protestants back in the days of Martin Luther, you have the COS (Catholic Church) and now a lot of people are leaving to form their own independent Scientology study groups much like the early Protestants did. Although the Catholic Church was rich and powerful enough to withstand something like that the COS is not and if this trend of break aways continue it may very well be the end of the COS, that MISSION in Israel, as I understand, brought in to the COS 100 million dollars alone and that is only a SMALL MISSION, its not even an ORG which like I said is much, much bigger than a Mission.

 

[SyraKelly]

Juat to be clear it was a MISSION that left, a mission in Israel, there is a difference between a mission and an ORG, a mission is a very small group of Scientologists an Org is much much bigger, the mission that left was made up of about 50 people. It is still a big loss because Israel doesnt have much of a COS presence there is only one other ORG in Tel Aviv and now this smaller mission which I understand was growing pretty fast, has broke off.


This all reminds me of the schism between the Catholics and the Protestants back in the days of Martin Luther, you have the COS (Catholic Church) and now a lot of people are leaving to form their own independent Scientology study groups much like the early Protestants did. Although the Catholic Church was rich and powerful enough to withstand something like that the COS is not and if this trend of break aways continue it may very well be the end of the COS, that MISSION in Israel, as I understand, brought in to the COS 100 million dollars alone and that is only a SMALL MISSION, its not even an ORG which like I said is much, much bigger than a Mission.

OH-OK-I actually was just repeating what a gentleman said to me on the Marty R's website-he said org.I did not know there was missions & orgs