Trayvon's injuries, per the leaked autopsy report

[Aedrys]

They don't even call it a cut, just an abrasion/scratch.

I would think his injuries would be way more severe if he was beating GZ and banging his head into the ground. Only one abrasion doesn't sound like a beating getting GZ close to diapers to me.

And the intermediate range - TM was not as close as GZ said he was. I bet he was over eight inches away, and that's why he was face down. He was trying to get away.

GZ's story is blown out of the water, IMO.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

They don't even call it a cut, just an abrasion/scratch.

The first report I read said "broken skin" then all of a sudden broken skin became "injuries."

 

[IzzyBlanche]

So 8 inches to 3.5 feet......hmmmm. I see a story crumbling.

From the little I know about gunshot wounds, the stippling around the wound should be able to narrow the range greatly.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

From the little I know about gunshot wounds, the stippling around the wound should be able to narrow the range greatly.

Stippling on the actually body just narrows it down to 8" to 3.5 feet. What will really narrow it down is the gun powder residue on the hoodie.

They would have taken the same bullets and load Zimmerman was shooting and shot a hoodie with it from different distances till they get the same pattern.

 

[Aedrys]

Stippling on the actually body just narrows it down to 8" to 3.5 feet. What will really narrow it down is the gun powder residue on the hoodie.

They would have taken the same bullets and load Zimmerman was shooting and shot a hoodie with it from different distances till they get the same pattern.

And that report is one I cannot wait for!!!!!

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I sure hope the judge see's what a joke is being made of the sunshine laws and turns all this stuff loose.

 

[saguaro]

ONE abrasion below the knuckle on ring finger 1/4 inch long.....gun fired from "intermedite" range.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/47453093/#47453093

I don't find msnbc very credible when it comes to this case after their selective editing.

imo!

 

[tehcloser]

I don't find msnbc very credible when it comes to this case after their selective editing.

imo!

I think after their last lesson.......they will be extra careful to get it right this time.

 

[Concerned Papa]

The first report I read said "broken skin" then all of a sudden broken skin became "injuries."

Odd the term "broken skin" being used to describe his finger. Go to the link below and read about a common problem with the slide mechanism on the small Kel Tec PF9 :

http://mouseguns.com/pf9rev/pf9rev.htm

 

[IzzyBlanche]

So I guess it should now be clear to all who were wondering why the funeral director said he didn't see any injuries to TM's hands.

Anyone could overlook a 1/4 inch long abrasion.

 

[tehcloser]

So that "abrasion" might not have looked as if he had been in a fight which means the funeral director was right?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Stippling on the actually body just narrows it down to 8" to 3.5 feet. What will really narrow it down is the gun powder residue on the hoodie.

They would have taken the same bullets and load Zimmerman was shooting and shot a hoodie with it from different distances till they get the same pattern.

From what I watched and have heard I don't think any witness saw the shooting. John who saw them on the ground left and when he looked out the window after the shot he saw Trayvon on the ground and Zimmerman walking around. That means he even missed George sitting on Trayvon after the shooting.

The detective said there was stippling on Martin so that would mean he was shot from 6 inches away up to 30 inches away or about an arms length. Test on the powder burns on the hoodie compared to the loads Zimmerman was using should tell the distance.

http://www.pathologyexpert.com/boards/forensics/gsw.htm

Intermediate: 6-30" Stippling

From this post of yours intermediate is 6-30" with stippling. Close is 6" or under with stippling and fouling. Distant is 30" or over with neither.

http://www.pathologyexpert.com/boards/forensics/gsw.htm

 

[Dr.Fessel]

From this post of yours intermediate is 6-30" with stippling. Close is 6" or under with stippling and fouling. Distant is 30" or over with neither.

http://www.pathologyexpert.com/boards/forensics/gsw.htm

Yep, I was going off this one Aedrys posted a few minutes ago.

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[bwilson]

Intermediate range:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Vb...nepage&q=intermediate range gun shot?&f=false

Wow that is a long link, hope it works.
I'm new here and usually post in a different forum, but have been following this case closely as well.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Every article I have read says knuckleS.
MSNBC is the only place (so far) that I have seen the description of a singular knuckle.

1/4" is pretty big on a finger IMO.

The funeral director said matter of factly that there were NO injuries to TM knuckles.
Broken skin is an injury.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Yep, I was going off this one Aedrys posted a few minutes ago.

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Thanks. I think that 6-30" makes more sense. 3.5 feet is an awfully long way to have stippling on a body. JMO.

 

[Just K]

Every article I have read says knuckleS.
MSNBC is the only place (so far) that I have seen the description of a singular knuckle.

1/4" is pretty big on a finger IMO.

The funeral director said matter of factly that there were NO injuries to TM knuckles.
Broken skin is an injury.

JMO

The reporter says that they have an actual copy of the autopsy which ABC did not say. The FD would have been correct in saying there was no injury to TM's "Knuckles" as the autopsy report states there was an abrasion below the knuckle.

 

[elementary]

Every article I have read says knuckleS.
MSNBC is the only place (so far) that I have seen the description of a singular knuckle.

1/4" is pretty big on a finger IMO.

The funeral director said matter of factly that there were NO injuries to TM knuckles.
Broken skin is an injury.

JMO

<modsnip> The fact is it's teeny tiny. Check it out on a ruler. Let's not exaggerate out of proportion to support a POV.

 

[LambChop]

<modsnip> The fact is it's teeny tiny. Check it out on a ruler. Let's not exaggerate out of proportion to support a POV.

And I think a 1/4 inch is 1/4 inch regardless of what it's on. The measurement is the same. jmo

 

[kimpage]

Do not know if it has been posted but i was watching JVM and they said TM had a small cut on left knuckle not numerous cuts on hands and his toxicology for drugs was NEGATIVE which highly irked FT......Saw on tv so no link so will add IMHO JMHO and all that...And am just beginning to read this thread from page one soif it has been discussed i am sorry.........