Trayvon's injuries, per the leaked autopsy report

[deelytful1]

I think that the key word here is "injuries". The funeral director didn't think a tiny abrasion was an injury. IMO.

Also, do we know how OLD this abrasion was? Perhaps it was already scabbed up and did not even occur that night, hence the funeral director did not note it....??? Just catching up.

ETA: Just read your post LambChop! EXACTLY!

 

[Kimberlyd125]

In common speak, I find, an 'injury' is something quite large and concerning. As for a scratch, well, splitting hairs, it can be called an injury out of many synonyms for such. So what? I am not sure what your point is, since there is variation in communication about what an 'injury' constitutes. Are you implying the funeral director had some hidden agenda?

It's not splitting hairs.
It's the English language.

An abrasion is an injury.
The skin is injured.

I have no idea if he had a hidden agenda.

But I do know that the autopsy seems to disprove his comments on the NG show.

 

[GrandmaTo4]

That does not negate the fact that TM had an injury to his hand.
The funeral director said there were no injuries to TM's knuckles or hands.

<modsnip> a big, huge 1/4 inch scrape on Trayvon's left ring finger -- NOT even on his knuckle, but below it.

<modsnip>

I have bigger, worse scrapes on my own fingers right now. And I haven't punched anyone EVER!

imo

 

[Just K]

<modsnip>

GZ's fingernail may have sliced TM's finger. I sure hope they swabbed that abrasion.

 

[tehcloser]

Testifying?

He said there were none.
He said it as fact.
He implied that he would know.

He misled IMO.
He also made comments about the police work being horrible.
I don't know what that has to do with his job.

I think he was trying to "help" the ARREST GEORGE ZIMMERMAN case.

It was all about public outrage before the arrest. Information like this certainly fueled that fire.

JMO

Kind of like the "misleading" stuff about all of the injuries to Trayvon's hands that was offered as proof he beat Zimmerman up? But now has turned out to be false? I think the fire was fuled with that too. I'm really not trying to be snarky....sorry if it sounds that way.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Kind of like the "misleading" stuff about all of the injuries to Trayvon's hands that proved he beat Zimmerman up?

IMO GZ's injuries prove that no matter what TM's knuckles looked like.

 

[elementary]

<modsnip> a big, huge 1/4 inch scrape on Trayvon's left ring finger -- NOT even on his knuckle, but below it.

<modsnip>

I have bigger, worse scrapes on my own fingers right now. And I haven't punched anyone EVER!

imo

Well said! I hate the thought that some minor thing becomes huge when we all have suffered such minor scratches and never been accused of fighting or deathly assault. Mountains out of molehills and all that, IMO.

 

[LynnM]

Well said! I hate the thought that some minor thing becomes huge when we all have suffered such minor scratches and never been accused of fighting or deathly assault. Mountains out of molehills and all that, IMO.

Looking at one I got last night on my left index finger and for the life of me I cannot remember how. Definitely wasn't in a fight though.

 

[Just K]

Perhaps the ME swabbed TM's fingernails and found evidence which will prove that the injuries to GZ's head are fingernail digs.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Perhaps the ME swabbed TM's fingernails and found evidence which will prove that the injuries to GZ's head are fingernail digs.

But during the bond hearing the detective said his head injuries were consistent with hitting something hard.

IMO they were not fingernail scrapes.

 

[vlpate]

Aren't the toxicology reports part of the autopsy? If MSNBC has the actual autopsy, why did they not reveal the results?

"(The medical examiner in the case did a routine toxicology screening of Mr. Martin; the results have not been made public.)" LINK

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Well, I question this statement. There's an issue here of cause and effect. It has not been answered, even if the post assumes that it has. It's really just an opinion. Not a fact.

ETA: Oh and, what is the proof, where is the evidence for cause and effect even though Trayvon's knuckles don't support GZ's story?

Where did I say it was fact?
The first 3 letters of the post you quoted were IMO.

I never claimed it was fact.

 

[vlpate]

Well, I question this statement. There's an issue here of cause and effect. It has not been answered, even if the post assumes that it has. It's really just an opinion. Not a fact.

ETA: Oh and, what is the proof, where is the evidence for cause and effect even though Trayvon's knuckles don't support GZ's story?

Where is the proof that Trayvon's knuckles don't support GZ's story? TIA

 

[elementary]

Oh, I just read that this <modsnip> injury on Trayvon's hand was on his left hand. Which means, unless he's left handed, it wasn't even his dominant hand. Hmmm.

 

[ynotdivein]

Do we know whether Trayvon was left- or right-hand dominant?

 

[AJ Noiter]

Oh, I just read that this <modsnip> injury on Trayvon's hand was on his left hand. Which means, unless he's left handed, it wasn't even his dominant hand. Hmmm.

I don't see how that'd be of any relevance, to be honest. I am right handed but I can throw a punch with my left hand. Unless someone can state factually that his left arm/hand was useless to him, and even if they did that this point I'd doubt the story, I'd find that it doesn't matter.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I don't see how that'd be of any relevance, to be honest. I am right handed but I can throw a punch with my left hand. Unless someone can state factually that his left arm/hand was useless to him, and even if they did that this point I'd doubt the story, I'd find that it doesn't matter.

I agree with you. I am right handed, but if a person I was trying to punch was turned in a way that I couldn't hit his face with my right hand, I'd use my left, especially in that type of situation.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I think that the key word here is "injuries". The funeral director didn't think a tiny abrasion was an injury. IMO.

ITA. I've got "abrasions" on my hands where my cat scratched me, and another scratch on my knee that I have no idea how I got, and a little spot on my thumb where I pulled off a hangnail, but I would never refer to these as "injuries."

 

[Kimberlyd125]

But they are injuries.

 

[norest4thewicked]

ITA. I've got "abrasions" on my hands where my cat scratched me, and another scratch on my knee that I have no idea how I got, and a little spot on my thumb where I pulled off a hangnail, but I would never refer to these as "injuries."

But, technically and medically, they are injuries.