Trial break: The State vs Jodi Arias; trial resumes 4 February 2013

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  • #581
ITA, I can't imaging stabbing someone even once, much less multiple times, then slitting their throat, :no:. It totally turns my stomach to even think about it. No normal person could engage in anything this violent. Just think Norman in Psycho. And he was far, far from normal. This woman seriously has something missing, IMO.

She has no soul...just a deep void inside her.:moo:
 
  • #582
welcome amyfarrahfowler! :rocker: glad you have joined us
 
  • #583
Do you think OJ Simpson is a sociopath?

I don't think that lying your face off when you could very well be charged with murder and get the death penalty is all that abnormal. I'm not sure how anyone could say how they'd react until they're in that position.
Myself, I would be crying and scared. I would need a lawyer, as it would be too hard for me to talk.
 
  • #584
Did JA ever hold down a job?
 
  • #585
I'm not sure we will hear it from Mom. She seems to be a staunch supporter. In many cases followed often it is after an arrest or conviction that people feel comfortable in coming forward. IMO

she has been in court every day - so can she be a witness? i thought witnesses couldn't be in court during the trial?
 
  • #586
she has been in court every day - so can she be a witness? i thought witnesses couldn't be in court during the trial?

cindy anthony was in court and was a witness???
 
  • #587
Did JA ever hold down a job?

yes - she was a server a a few hi end resturants - where i am sure she made a ton in tips - which was why she could prolly take all those road trips - and she worked for PPL - but idk if she ever made any money doing that - imo
 
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With all of JA's "art" being sold on ebay I just had a thought. I am wondering if Daddy O's Diner in Yreka is now doing a booming business since the trial started?!! I am sure there are alot of curiosity seekers stopping there since it is run by JA's family. Also, wonder if media has been there trying to get a "scoop".

Oh I'll bet business is booming. Between curiosity and the "murderabilia" collectors taking their sick roadtrips I would imagine JA is great for business. Yuck. On one of the HLN shows last night, JA's high school art teacher said he recently went to the diner to purchase a gift certificate and "saw the family". I'm sure lots of people are "running into" the Arias' there and just happen to ask about JA. Yeah, right.
 
  • #590
I have never followed a DP case that went to the penalty phase. Anyone here who has fill me in? What all are we in for? Who all will likely testify in that phase?
 
  • #591
cindy anthony was in court and was a witness???



As I recall the grandparent snakes got special permission to be present and IMO it helped the State lose that case. I hate to even mention that trial as it upsets me so much.
 
  • #592
Myself, I would be crying and scared. I would need a lawyer, as it would be too hard for me to talk.

I know! She was calm and doing backbends! She would also adapt her story to whatever evidence was being presented to her. That girl was not nervous in the least. I think that she was convinced that she could talk and seduce her way out of it.
 
  • #593
Most people would never be in the position to have to Lie their faces off. She was as cool as a cucumber in those Interrogation videos. Even when LE let her know she was busted. What galls me is Travis is called a Liar? Did he lie? Yes. Who the heck hasn't. He isn't a Liar in my opine. He is a person who has lied. Jodi. Yes.
 
  • #594
O/T Sort of, but it's nice to see Travis's family in happier times:


[video=youtube;dJ3_nglN69E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ3_nglN69E[/video]
 
  • #595
she has been in court every day - so can she be a witness? i thought witnesses couldn't be in court during the trial?

I doubt she would be called as I don't think she has anything to offer. Judging by her behavior in Court and meeting with Jodi before the arrest I'm sure she would Lie. She might have something to say in the Penalty Phase :waitasec:
 
  • #596
I have been thinking.......I think in rebuttal they need a penis line up.:floorlaugh: JK

The penis/hand shown doesnt look like it would belong to Travis imo who has very smooth white hands. How do we know its not Darryl's?

Didnt they find these pictures on JAs computer?

Lawd it could belong to anyone?

Did they introduce that it was sent from Travis' email account?

Oh geesh here goes my mute button on again. Jean is on.:(

I bolded the part that made me think, "Oh, Lord, this might give some TV producer an idea for a new reality show!" :blushing:
 
  • #597
Ok gonna post my impressions from today. This was a very somber day in so many ways for me and for all of us.

I got to court early and got right in. The Deputy recognizes me now and I just said I was there at the invitation of the Victim Advocate and showed her card and got right in. I first sat on the aisle behind Travis family then thought better of that position and moved to the end of that row. The Victim Advocate Nicole came and sat with me.

I also had a long talk before court started with the brother of a murder victim named Jake Orbin. His brother was Jay Orbin and married this platinum blond showgirl named Marjorie who ultimately murdered him and chopped up his body and...more horror. I have seen shows on this horrible crime on 48 Hrs. etc. He is there watching the trial and in support of the family just like me. We had a natural comraderie. He's a very nice fellow and we will likely become friends. He has some of the same drive I do to make some kind of difference out of a tragedy. He's raising his brother's son.

I talked also for a long time with Nicole the Victim Advocate. We know many people in common (not the least of which my former Victims Rights Atty who now works in her office!). She asked me if I had an interest in becoming a Victim Advocate and we talked about that. I've had an interest in helping victims write their Impact Statements as I do think I have a gift for writing and doing so in a way that can be more than venting but truly make an IMPACT. She said Travis' family are working on their statements right now and so I offered my assistance/support should they be interested. It would be my blessing to assist them or any victim in this way.

You all saw what I saw in court so that's nothing new. What I can say is what was palpable to me is the change in energy in the courtoom when Martinez is questioning vs. Nurmi. I said before it's like someone changes the channel from ESPN to PBS. And one of those really sedate PBS shows (not my beloved Downton Abbey). It's like you're almost sitting there waiting with anticipation for Martinez to get up and speak because the second Nurmi takes the podium it's like "come ON, spit it OUT". He entire demeanor is boring. I almost feel sorry for him. (but I don't).

Someone who will not be named told me Victoria Washington withdrew from this case for reasons that are sealed but said "I really like Victoria but I'll say she has higher ethical standards than Kirk Nurmi". Big surprise.

Nicole and I also discussed the whole chameleon like nature of a sociopath. She clearly thinks Jodi is one (as do I). How she looks so completely different now than in her previous photos. I hate to say it but in her blonde photos we've all seen I do think she looks stunningly gorgeous. And now, she's so mousy you wouldn't pick her out of a crowd. she looks frail and mousy sitting over there.

Every person "in the know" I've asked their opinions (granted not a huge sample) thinks Jodi will testify. One said they think next week. Early next week. I think their case is going so badly and they know they are losing, they will throw this Hail Mary.

I did see Nurmi walk in today with a big brown paper bundle that looked like evidence to me. I've seen plenty of evidence packages and this is what it looked like. It looked the size you'd wrap a christmas package of a big fluffy bathrobe. That size. Not sharp edged like a box but kind of soft. Hmmmm...

Jury does seem attentive. I almost ended up on the elevator with them. But did end up on one with Det. Flores and his wife and some others and we all had to get off because the doors weren't closing (imagine ME getting stuck on an elevator with HIM..lol).

Saw Beth briefly. She's always so friendly. Saw my friend Mike Kiefer. he's also quite chatty so passing me little tidbits.

I did post that I saw Martinez approach Travis sister (the younger one who first ran out of court yesterday) and had a very close conversation,she speaking directly in to his ear. Both were smiling as they parted.

I'll review my notes and see if I forgot anything.

I will be going ALL day Monday and afternoons Wed and Thurs next week. Ahhhh the pleasures of being self employed...don't hafta ask the boss.

Feel free to ask any questions or put me on assignment for anything you'd like me to check out or ask next week. I'd be happy to help in any way I can. :seeya:

PS. Edited to add--I gave Nicole the card to give the family and she said she was going to do it at lunch. She also asked if I'd put my contact info on there and that she was going to read and show them my Victims Impact Statement (as it is online).

WOW! Just wow. It makes my heart full, knowing there is that group of victim's siblings, there to lend support to Travis's family. Amazing and beautiful! Thank you for being our eyes & ears there, and in some ways our heart, too!;)
 
  • #598
I am casting my vote for cool cucumber.... Sheer determination at total destruction.


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Agreed, especially after reading the first and last part of her May 10, 2008 blog which GAVE ME CHILLS!!

"I cannot ignore that there is an ever-present yearning and desire that pulses within me. It throbs for gratification and fulfillment."

"This yearning I have is perhaps the yearning for it to explode into expression. To be fully expressed would be would mean ultimate gratification."

http://jodiarias.blogspot.com/
 
  • #599
truly appreciate the very helpful analogy you provided here, txblue


Welcome to Websleuths! :welcome:

Love your screen name and avatar. BBT is my very favorite show!
 
  • #600
Snapped on the Oxygen network has loads of stories of "if I cannot have him/her" then no one will. Many of the young men and woman are attractive and successful in careers. They seemed perfectly "normal" until they brutally kill the person they "love". Like it has been said before, almost anyone can be labeled with personality disorders but when the circumstances are just right (wrong) they turn into murderers. imo
 
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