Trial day 31: the defense continues it's case in chief #86

[luvtenniss]

Not necessarily. I think the Judge can issue monetary sanctions against the DT if she wants to with no prejudice to their client.

But she won't. When Juan wins this, he will have battled JA, the defense, and the judge. He is handling this with such grace.

 

[KMouse]

"Your brain under fire" article in Time magazine

http://swampland.time.com/2013/01/16/your-brain-in-a-shootout-guns-fear-and-flawed-instincts/

I've attended a few seminars on PTSD and heard psychologists talk about what happens during a critical incident and what happens after.

In my opinion Jodi's actions after do not jive with PTSD and the way memories are preserved after a critical incident.

You can also Google "trauma membrane" for some interesting reading.

I feel so angry right now.

JA is neither a police officer who is trained for critical incidents and this was not a shoot out. JA was the aggressor against a defensless person.

 

[basilcat]

:what:...and if you look at the footnotes of the PowerPoint, you will note the very credible source of Wikipedia, which Dr. Samuels uses to help define PTSD....

 

[JaimeInLA]

Stay calm WSers. Here is the stuff that appeals are made of - and I do believe only the defendant gets to appeal. If some later/higher court finds she was denied the opportunity to present her best defense . . . well, we all know how that goes.

Attorneys please weigh in on this.

NEXT ISSUE the PTSD diagnosis maybe works for AFTER the gun goes off, but there is not and cannot be one for prior that would account for all the planning we've seen in evidence. No matter how triggered she might have been at the shower door, she left Yreka with a gun and she left Pasadena with 3 cans of gas and brown hair.

Psychologist please weigh in on this.

Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out . . . Screw that . . . break open the wine!

She also left with a full Brazilian wax job = PREMEDITATION!

 

[momtective]

How ticked off is that jury right now?

Wow.

I'm sure it hasn't been said aloud but I'll bet most if not all of the jurors at this point have said to themselves "can we just kill the @*&%$ now and be done with this!" :wink:

 

[ricky_ticky]

That's what I was just going to say!! She thinks JUAN messed up????????????

JMHO, I think that the judge took the break now to allow for both sides to determine what sort of compromise they are willing to reach, and for she herself to take time to think over the matter and how to proceed.

That's what she meant about dealing with it outside of court with motions. Seems like they all need some time to determine how and if this expert's opinion/testimony has changed. I think that the powerpoint was cooked up last night by the expert at the request of the defense. They need his special help because it's been going badly.

I trust JM to find the holes in the expert's theory/research/testimony and point them out to the jury.

 

[kaRN]

It would be professional suicide for this doctor to refer to articles in Time magazine as part of the research/information he depends on in his job. He would make himself to look like a fool by doing this. As an RN, if I tried to use anything in any article other than approved professional research, I would be crucified and burned on the cross!

ITA Isabelle!! What a joke!
What do you think of the PHD coming in to give his interpretations of CT scans??? :banghead:

 

[Miss Behavin]

After a 5-day hiatus, I expected two productive days. Doesn't look like that's gonna happen.

 

[Timber]

Jean Casares (sp?) ... Just called this an "ambush" tactic by the defense.
Yep.

 

[corundogs]

I hope that no one on the jury is experiencing financial hardship due to the extensive length of this trial. They probably had no idea that they'd be away from their daily lives for this long. I admire and appreciate their commitment, endurance, and patience.

I understand that and sympathize.

However, I think based on past experience, these people knew EXACTLY how long they might be away.

At least they aren't sequestered...and this is a death penalty trial after all. They ALL knew what that meant and how long they would be held up.

 

[Southern_Meadow]

If I have this correct Dr Samuels is relying on a Time Magazine article written by a journalist that writes about education, politics and disasters. Her education is a BA in Government.

Can not make this stuff up.

Juan won't get to do his cross today (if past testimony by the defense is any indication) so he'll have all weekend to do research and I'm sure he'll make a point to bring that up when he does finally get to cross.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Dr. Samuels read that article in TIME magazine? That must qualify him to give an opinion in a murder case!!

 

[pufnstuf]

If I were JM, I'd let the expert present his schpiel, and then I'd bring it back to the Time article:

"Can you tell me how the situation of a police arriving on scene and being drawn into an unplanned gunfight has anything to do with a woman traveling 1200 miles with the premeditated plan to gun down her ex-lover?"

 

[popsicle]

The Steubenville rape trial has an 11 hour day planned today...I don't think even seen an 11 hour WEEK yet with this trial!

And also Saturday possibly.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Loving the fog on HLN ..

 

[StephanieHartPI]

I have a sneaking suspicion Ms Willmott and Jodi don't get along on the whole. I can picture Ms Willmott asking her a question on the stand and Jodi answers anything other than yes/no (like her spats with Mr Nurmi, he had to pull answers from her)

Willmott's arm would come out, she'd have Jodi by the collar and drag her out of the box for some face time.

I don't see her as "patient" We missed some great cat fights I bet

 

[JSR]

Stay calm WSers. Here is the stuff that appeals are made of - and I do believe only the defendant gets to appeal. If some later/higher court finds she was denied the opportunity to present her best defense . . . well, we all know how that goes.

Attorneys please weigh in on this.

NEXT ISSUE the PTSD diagnosis maybe works for AFTER the gun goes off, but there is not and cannot be one for prior that would account for all the planning we've seen in evidence. No matter how triggered she might have been at the shower door, she left Yreka with a gun and she left Pasadena with 3 cans of gas and brown hair.

Psychologist please weigh in on this.

Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out . . . Screw that . . . break open the wine!

Correct. The state doesn't get a stab at appeals. If they did you can bet your butt that the state of FL would have been in line to file an appeal the day AFTER Casey was found not guilty.

 

[Diva]

That ship has sailed to me, Is just a comment that means, I wish would could have taken care of this before, But there is nothing we can do about it now..

I don't think it was a dig at either side.

that was my take as well.

 

[TxBlondie]

Running errands this a.m. and just now catching up. Sounds like some slimy bull dung being pulled by the defense. And is it just me does the "expert" look like the dude from Sienfeld???

Baaaahaahahaha HLN just blew a fog horn and fogged up the screen and put "The Fog" on each side of the screen! OMG LMFAO :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Arishia]

I can't tell what the judge makes of all this yet, so I'm not going to let myself fall into sturm and drang. Not until it's proven necessary. When I do that, it always makes me tired. Off to watch a K-drama. :seeya: