trial day 34: the defense continues it's case in chief #98

[Mrs G Norris]

What I'm hoping is in the jurors' question jar:


Isn't it far more likely that someone who stabbed another to death would have repetitive and intrusive thoughts of this action rather than having amnesia of that event?

Isn't it true that one of the MOST common symptoms of PTSD are reoccurring nightmares of the traumatic event?

Isn't it true that you told the court that Jodi did not have nightmares?


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Isn't it true that Transient Global Amnesia is a diagnosis that should be made after MEDICAL EXCLUSION of epilepsy, transient ischemic attack, migraine, drug use, alcohol use, brain tumor, HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS (lol), autoimmune reaction, brain inflammation, degenerative brain disease, and aneurism?

Are you a medical physician, osteopathic physician, a professional Physicians' Assistant, or a Nurse Practitioner?

If not, do you realize that you are NOT qualified to diagnose Transient Global Amnesia as this is a diagnosis only given after a long list of MEDICAL conditions have been medically ruled out?

Isn't it true that confabulation is a common symptom of patients who state they have amnesia?
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What precisely does it mean that Jodi had a MCMI score of 60 for antisocial which includes aggression?

Isn't it true that if Jodi WASN'T aggressive, she would have scored much lower for antisocial on the MCMI assessment?

Two days ago, did you not tell the court that Jodi was a pacifist?
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Isn't it an ethics violation for a psychologist to send his clients greeting cards and gifts as if they are a close personal friend?

Please tell us about every other ethics violation you have had in every state.

Please tell us if you have been professionally disciplined by any state or professional organization.

If so, why were you disciplined?

Oh hilarious!!

I have only one question: Isn't it more likely, considering her history, that most if not all of the information you obtained from Jodi in order to draw your conclusions was simply a fabrication by her in the hope that you would come up with a psychological explanation for her actions/claims which is also the reason you were hired by her defence team?

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

Oh you're in for a treat if you didn't see the earlier airing. She has a guest that was a friend of Travis', and who has nothing nice to say about Jodi at all.

Does anyone in the world have any one good thing to say about this murderer? Thanks Schuby - Oh, here she is Clancy Talbot !

 

[LaneGirl]

Then I think one of the charges should be second degree murder here is the Statute for that:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/01104.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

It still could be that the judge includes it if the defense shows crime of passion or heat of the moment (complete opposite of SD). Only problem is with time served she may not spend much time in jail.

 

[Pensfan]

Was there more footage of her interview released, after the headstand/rummaging through the trash video??

Yeah. In it Jodi is handcuffed and flipping her hair like a sweaty horse flips its mane. I don't know where it is or I'd post it for you.

 

[Karmady]

Then I think one of the charges should be second degree murder here is the Statute for that:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/01104.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

2nd degree doesn't involve premeditation though. In a felony murder charge I think, but do not know for sure, that the intent to commit the felony (the mens rea) is "imputed" to take the murder charge to first degree. For example, if you rob a bank with a gun, chances are someone will get hurt and possibly killed. The premeditation of the crime committed is imputed to the death to make it first degree murder in the commission of a felony. I could stand corrected on that and will check back in the morning. Bedtime for me

 

[Pensfan]

Found it, Horace.
[video=youtube;e5igGNYg8A0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5igGNYg8A0[/video]

 

[LinasK]

I'm watching the re-run of NG - She just said that Juan Martinez has sent a woman to death penalty in the past and she believes he will do it this time. Let us pray that happens...

True Bombshell: I just caught it on HLN After Dark- this woman Clancy Talbot says Jodi physically blocked the doorway to prevent her from leaving!!! WOW! I wonder if Juan knew about this episode- Jodi staked her claim on Travis- "he's MY man" type conversation!!!

 

[Plumeria5]

Doctor on Dr. Drew showed the type of knife he thinks Jodi stabbed Travis with. OMG! 1 1/2 inch blade! Huge! I hadn't seen it before and was not imagining a knife nearly that big!

Tomorrow as the court goers come into court I think they should all be given an airsick bag as a precaution. We can't afford to lose another day in court!

 

[G&AMom]

Yes, more of the same really but interesting anyway.

Has anybody come up with a link to the new footage? I googled it and couldn't find anything.

I think it's interesting that JodiIsInnocent.com is listed as the "#1 Jodi Support Site." Like it's the number one site to buy shoes and there are thousands of others. ropeller:

 

[looneymama]

My mom is a psychotherapist so I've had lots of fun telling her all about the past couple of days. She just really couldn't believe how ridiculous this guy was. I know this goes without saying, but she basically just said that because he didn't have her fill in the answer sheet by herself, it's not a valid test. There is no getting around it. There is a very specific way that these tests have to be given and it can't be considered a valid test if it isn't done that way.

It doesn't matter when she took the test or what her story was at the time, it wasn't a valid test because he had her write the answers on lined paper so it shouldn't have been used to diagnose and she absolutely couldn't believe he actually showed up with that to court.

obviously we can't really verify that looneymama's mommy is a psychotherapist so...take that for what it's worth lol

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Found it, Horace.
#JodiArias Flopping around in HANDCUFFS in interrogation room! - YouTube

She's trying to get the cuffs off .. that's what's going on .. never heard the beginning audio before.

Then she flips her hair when she gives up and decides she'll just try and look pretty and nice for Flores when he gets in instead.

Piece of work.

 

[LaneGirl]

I read the minute entries. The defense didn't withdraw the letters. They withdrew the objection to the State's motion to preclude them. They did that because they couldn't get an expert to give a sufficient opinion based on the copies they had. For ethical reasons, they let Jodi give it a go unrepresented so they didn't have to take a position that was not supported by the expert, who was unwilling to give an opinion based on copies. When she was unsuccessful, they immediately came back in as counsel. Nurmi has since stated, in open court, that an expert concluded that at least some of the letters are not forgeries. To me, this means that the expert's opinion would not be admissible based solely on the quality of the copies vis-à-vis evidentiary requirements for handwriting samples. YMMV. I think AZlawyer's post is totally consistent with that

BBM- Kinda the same thing in my mind...the letters aren't coming in.

 

[Face the music]

Does anyone think that Juan will file a formal complaint to the ethics board againt Samuels. He has crossed the line with the book, cards, didn't apply appropriate test use, and didn't maintain accurate records for starters.

 

[Rosemary Pierce]

Has she been watching the trial?

This scares me. However, after hearing the jury questions of JA, I think they believe she did it. Ummm...have you told your Mom JA admitted to doing it? I'm really interested in her theory.

Hey Angel, she had a late start watching...but she watches everyday now. I have made her watch things like both interrogations w/Det. Flores, Dr. Horn's testimony and I have showed her all the crime scene photos.
Yes, she knows JA admitted to the murder and that she changed her story many times.
Like I said she just cannot see how JA could drag Travis down that hall, and she just can't understand how it could have happened that way (whatever that means :banghead
She feels like TA "used" JA....so that does not make him a good person. Her and I have had huge arguments over this....because I told her SO WHAT?! He deserved to be slaughtered because he liked the sex that was thrown at him?! He was never going to marry her. If she had any self respect she would have left his a$$
She does not believe in the self-abuse claims. She dislikes JM's style in the courtroom....she thinks he hollers and that he is a bully :facepalm:
I don't know what this woman is thinking....she really has a huge problem with locking an innocent person up....not to mention to sentence one to death.

I have told her JA IS NOT innocent.....she is a monster! I get so frustrated with her....we argue constantly over this!
She also thinks JA should have went with an insanity defense. I tell her....mother she is NOT insane :furious: Lol, I given up with her at this point.

 

[ktaran]

I think some questions that will be asked are:

"Why can't you administer the test again with her new story instead of "speculating" her answers?"
"Do you feel you or another "professional" convinced JA that she was raped by TA or that their sexual history was degrading?"
"Did you hear the phone sex tape where JA said the oral sex was hot?"
"Was PTSD the only disorder you tested for? If no was she diagnosed with any other psychological issues?
"You added "I am going to" f'ing kill you bitc*" to the threat TA supposedly made. Do you think you could have added more/erred to her other statements?"

 

[ctmom]

Just to be clear, there's no evidence whether the letters were forgeries or not. They weren't allowed in because the copies available to the experts were not originals or copies sufficient to permit expert testimony.

according to court minutes:

Handwriting expert Rosemary Urbanski examined the letters and issued a report. (BAM)

Immediately after, same day, Jodi representing herself, requested to have her advisory counsel be reinstated.

Shortly after that, Defense requested evidentiary hearing re: interrogation of Matthew McCartney

Shortly after that, Nurmi files 1st motion to withdraw-Deeeenied!

Shortly after that, Victoria Washington, Jodi's 2nd public defender, filed a motion to withdraw citing she previously had represented Matthew McCartney thus a conflict of Interest- Ordered

Letters & Matthew McCartney interrogation are sealed and cannot be opened without prior order of the court.
(I think it was Jean Casauras that said JM supposedly let the DT & MM know that if they put him on the witness stand and or reference the letters he would have MM up on perjury charges)

When Jodi could not get letters admitted she told mommy to go to the tabloid, National Enquirer.
National Enquirer told her to take a hike.

Everyone was fleeing from Jodi...
Poor Nurmi was like the sickly calf in a large hurd runing from a cheetah.
He had no chance.

Enter: Willmott & 3rd story - self defense
A Last ditch attempt at damage control

 

[MeeBee]

Does anyone think that Juan will file a formal complaint to the ethics board againt Samuels. He has crossed the line with the book, cards, didn't apply appropriate test use, and didn't maintain accurate records for starters.

Nah, I don't think he'll go there. He's gotten what he needs out of the man. Let him slink away into the night.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Was JA & the mitigation person trying to rah JW on? I think so. Like girl secrets behind the scenes & who knows, maybe Jodi is being given sedatives? She has a shock belt on, she might get violent. I say, cut the meds and let's see Jodi, of course with the shock belt, just no meds.

 

[RR0004]

Does anyone think that Juan will file a formal complaint to the ethics board againt Samuels. He has crossed the line with the book, cards, didn't apply appropriate test use, and didn't maintain accurate records for starters.

Well, if Arizona works the same way as Florida, it may not mean a hill of beans. jmo

 

[paperwing]

Just to be clear, there's no evidence whether the letters were forgeries or not. They weren't allowed in because the copies available to the experts were not originals or copies sufficient to permit expert testimony.

The State requested the originals so that the COULD be examined, JA refused.

Just to be clear, JA could have produced the originals if she had them and felt so strongly that they would help her case. If JA knew the letters to be genuine, she would have handed them over immediately.

Instead, she wanted the 'copies' that she received 'somehow' from 'someone' (both of which she refused to disclose) to be admitted into evidence anyway, even though it seems pretty clear that they didn't indicate any evidence of abuse.

She first mentioned these letters within days of her 2010 change in defenses.

Guess JA knew they weren't genuine, or didn't find them important enough to produce if they were. Ball is/was in her court on this. Enough said.