trial day 36: the defense continues its case in chief #106

[Linda7NJ]

I agree to a certain extent. I think JB calling GA a child molester, and Nurmi calling TA a child molester with no more proof than a sociopath's words is unethical. Legally they can do it, but I get the impression they're in it for the money, more than basing a defense on the truth. Nurmi wanted to get out due to losing money. JMO (I know the truth would convict her and lying is a better way.)





That's weird that so many of us suffer from the same weird type dream. :waitasec:

BTW, chemistry isn't an emus strength. They do much better with teaching English, or Aussie I guess you'd call it. :seeya:



Did you go to the same school Dr. Samuels did? And finish behind him in your class?

Steely, I love ya ...but don't most people go to work everyday for the money?

 

[4Jacy]

I have had the same thought about her moving out so young. Most parents would call the police and have the guy brought up on charges. They seem to have said, "eh, whatever, she's your problem now."

A mother NEVER lets a child move out, no matter how difficult that child is. A mother is responsibe for that child from the moment it is born until it becomes an adult. Not that I have any sympathy for JA, I think she is a dispicable person, but more should have been done for/with her in her youth.

 

[VALee]

And I think her going on a camping trip presumably in the middle of nowhere with several men, as the lone female in the group, will go a very long way to discredit it.

JMO

Agreed, I think we need an expert to testify why men should not trust, yikes. Does anyone recall if a name or names of people involved in this camping trip plan were mentioned? I wonder if it's true or merely a story to cover up a recent weapon purchase?

 

[missgulfsouth]

And I think her going on a camping trip presumably in the middle of nowhere with several men, as the lone female in the group, will go a very long way to discredit it.

JMO

Was this trip a fact, or another figment of her imagination? Again, Jodi surrounded by men.....I'm sure they all wanted to date her, too, right?

 

[ElleElle]

:clap: Great post!

Jodi had a choice to make, she made her choice.

IMO, the defense was doomed immediately after JW's first sentence during her Opening Statement.

JENNIFER WILLMOTT, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander. There is no question about it. The million-dollar question is what would have forced her to do it?

ALV is going to be hard pressed to come up with any logical conclusion as to why JA was forcedto murder Travis - none of her 'story' adds up. JA did not 'kill' Travis, she brutally murdered him in cold blood.

I, for one, am not interested in hearing any gobbledygook about 'why' or 'what' possessed the devil's spawn to do what she did. I barely listened to the charlatan, Dr.
Samuels...he insulted the intelligence of the jury and all who had the misfortune of listening to him. JM could have preserved much of his energy by simply making a mockery of the ludicrous PTSD garbage.

That said, my first impression of ALV is that she will be someone the jury can identify with - a devoted advocate for victims of DV. She has worked in the trenches along side of the victims...unlike the armchair, pop psycholgist who specializes in sex therapy.

Juan is going to have to be very careful with this witness. He can't lose sight of the fact that JA was in no way a victim of DV - it was Travis who was the victim of a vile predator, stalker, murderer.

Actually, I am looking forward to hearing how ALV is going to weave DV/battered woman syndrome into the murder of Travis, since she will not be discussing anything directly involving Travis. At least that's the way I understand it. Her testimony will most likely be valuable as it pertains to the seriousness of DV; however, NONE of it can be attributable to Jodi Arias. We know it; Juan knows it; and the jury knows it.

Jodi Arias was not forced to murder Travis! She drove 1000 miles to do it - hiding her tracks - under the cover of darkness. GUILTY - Premeditated, 1st Degree! Case closed!

 

[cricket49]

Hi Crciket,

Yes, in the good old days parent's actually were allowed to strike their children:what:

I was 6 when I lost my father, and had ADD---I was a handful, and my mother actually used a belt:what:

.I grew up fine and had one of the most loving relationships you could have with my mother. There is abuse and then there is ABUSE! IMO, Know the difference before you start whining

I do not think they can use the "spoon defense".

BBM

I agree with you. My mother had a handful with 6 children and a father who was absent most of the time. When I became an adult, I realized my mother had a very stressful situation and did the best she could. I respected my mother much more once I was no longer a smart a$$ teenager.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

This woman's only article on "abused males" was an attempt to downplay the abuse. She is extremely biased in favor of females. She hates men with a purple rage and everyone will agree with me once her direct is over with.

Couldn't agree more. She seems to have one tool in the toolbox which is blaming men. Whatever she admits is wrong with JA - I think she will imply is because of abuse, thereby exonerating JA.

 

[seguek9]

:hills:

changed my avatar for the first time in 8 years. you like?

scared the ****** outta me when i saw it, but i had to use it lol.

 

[MistyM]

Sorry but no, seeing her face just skeeves me more than I can say. Not a serious issue with me but I definitely don't like seeing JA on this forum in an avatar. JMHO. (humble)

but it accentuates her EEEEVIL...

i feel the same way about 'tot mom' on any forum. her face makes me wanna barf, ya know? if too many people dont like i'll switch it over, don't want to give anyone any post traumatic issues looking at her.

(at least peeps will remember me when i say something)

 

[jojomonkey]

Judge Karen said Juan crossed the line in saying doc had feelings for Jodi and I don't think he did. He has shown his poor decisions in regards to how and why he scored her test and they show bias and feelings and I know I'm not the only one in here.

I agree I don't think he had feelings for her either. I think he is at fault for not being cynical enough to question anything she told him. I think he believed her in the beginning and wanted to do something to help her, it's a fine line between evaluating someone and wanting to help them. He crossed the line and made poor judgements but I just think he felt sorry for her situation. He was convinced by her tears and tales of woe and abuse, I think she worked him over in that way, he just wasn't professional enough to separate his evaluation process from feelings of sympathy for her.

 

[scorpio24]

Oh I think she would have taken it so far as to get a passport to make it look more legit.

I have personal experience with a pathological liar/sociopath. I was married to one, he took his lies so far it was mind-boggling. I had never known or seen anything like it until the Scott Peterson/Casey Anthony/and now Jodi Arias. I didn't know others existed for a long time and it made me feel like th biggest fool on the planet!!!

He once told me he was going into business with a friend and had me type up his business plan. It was never a real thing, I spent hours on something that didn't exist. Call me stupid, live and learn, (20 years ago), but I never imagined someone could lie that much about anything and everything. These kind of people do.

I've said it before: this woman is like nothing I've ever seen - and, frankly, I'm grateful.

I'm so sorry you had to go through that! I recently discovered a friend of mine was not who I thought she was at all. She fooled everybody - including her own family. She was not violent (at least, not yet) but she did lie about absolutely everything. I reassured myself that if the people closest to her didn't know, then how could I?

In no way do I think I was stupid or gullible, nor do I think you were. These people are master manipulators. They show you the person they think you want to see and they are very good at pushing the right buttons.

BTW, I think it's wonderful that you escaped his grasp and can share your experiences with others!

 

[carnnell]

O/T Yea for the women!!!! Now why we don't have more female corporate CEO? oh yea the "good ole' boy system" I forgot!!!

"Women Make Better Decisions Than Men - Yeah, We Said It" Science 2.0 March 26, 2013
By News Staff
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/women_make_better_decisions_men_yeah_we_said_it-107527

 

[indicat]

And I think her going on a camping trip presumably in the middle of nowhere with several men, as the lone female in the group, will go a very long way to discredit it.

JMO

Right!!? Lets just say for a minute she was really attacked and killed in self defense, would you then go buy a gun, the very thing you used in a killing that horrifies you so much you have PTDS and must live in an alternate reality and go off camping with a bunch of males?? Defies logic.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Why does court start at 10:30am?? Like they couldn't get going at 8?

 

[Novice Seeker]

Judge Karen said Juan crossed the line in saying doc had feelings for Jodi and I don't think he did. He has shown his poor decisions in regards to how and why he scored her test and they show bias and feelings and I know I'm not the only one in here.

Sad that this judge didn't recognize all of the lines RS crossed in this case. Oh well at least RS's colleagues have.

 

[Ammonitida]

Disagree. She's obviously guilty. Sorry o/t

There is no tangible evidence to show any guilt. I know her case like the back of my hand, even more so than Jodi's. I'm convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt in her innocence. All of the tangible evidence points to one man and one scenario. A man by the name of Rudy broke into a home and raped and murdered a female who unfortunately came home at the wrong time.

It's sickening to think that Amanda will be convicted again and that Jodi will be acquitted. If this happens, I'm going to have to seek treatment for PTSD that I will surely develop if I have not developed it already (I'm pretty I'd score high on any PTSD test right now).

 

[Tracey4AU]

Riiiight! But, I don't use Websters. I have my own dictionary in my brief case - somewhere - if you will just give me a chance to find it. Mine was written in 1710, when I started my illustrious education as an expert poster. :blushing:

Did I ASK you where your own dictionary was??!!! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[missgulfsouth]

I imagine you might be right about that. I think if you do that kind of work and day in, day out for 30+ years 99% of what you hear is a male abusing a female, it would have to skew your feelings towards males in general.

Men don't seek therapy for being abused by females, they are too embarrassed! It's easy for women to play the victim in our society.

 

[websurfer]

when will it start today?

 

[neesaki]

S&BBM

That's weird that so many of us suffer from the same weird type dream. :waitasec:

It is strange. I think Carl Jung's theory of the collective unconscious may explain it to some degree.