trial day 37: the defense continues its case in chief #109

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  • #301
No stones please. A lot has been made about how horrible it is for so called "hired experts" to testify. Lest we forget, the State has hired experts as well that will probably testify during rebuttal. IMO, these witnesses are hired for their opinions specifically to validate one side or the other. The only person who is supposed to be neutral is the judge and they rule with an objective and even temperament. Hopefully. I don't think there is a need to vilify anyone, except JA. JMV
 
  • #302
For a young man he was doing very well,most likely he told JA that so she would stop asking him for money!She asked him for money a lot.He had 2 room mates most likely they paid his mortgage.No one knocked their home,it is true compared to a cramped tiny bedroom in a small house Travis had a mansion.Most likely her grandparents had downsized as most do when all children are gone and just 2 people living there. I will say I am a grandmother to a 7 yr old who I adore,I have a 4 bedroom house 9 room home I raised my kids in.His room at my house has a firetruck bed and we just got him a corvette twin bed.His whole room is a child's dream and he only is here 4 days a month. I would not have him in a room like jodi was in.She hit the jackpot with Travis but he realized she was a wackadoo but not soon enough.

It's public record that he had taken out a second mortgage on his home.

But I see your point, who WOULDN'T want to live in the nicer house?

I just know that I was married to husband #1 who always insisted we live beyond our means. We had a home we struggled to pay for, vehicles we struggled to pay for, but not a dime in savings. Because, he reasoned, people don't see your savings. :facepalm:

Since my divorce, I live in a modest condo, drive a modest, paid-for vehicle, and can meet all my obligations without fear of losing my possessions. I don't have health insurance, bummer, but I have managed to put aside a nice chunk for DD's education. I have done this on a salary about 1/5 the size of my ex's, and he never put aside a dime for her future.

Sometimes appearances aren't an accurate picture of the situation. That was all I was saying.
 
  • #303
I have a domain (which I haven't updated for at least a couple months), not a blog and I didn't plug it. And the "MILFy and GILFy", reference was to a poster who I will now not drag into this, who complimented me on my posts, not the post where I supposedly "plugged my blog"

If we are going to have a pile on with people with some ax to grind just making things up, I'm at the very least going to call it a night, if not a day, or a week, or just go back to doing my videos.

Oh, right, I linked to a video I did that made the case that the people who most accuse others of stalking and harassment were doing the stalking and harassment. Totally irrelevant to this case.

That's "plugging my blog". Right.

Goodnight.

Noooooooooo... Only the good die young... and only the truly sober turn in this early. :rocker:
 
  • #304
Funny! Wasn't it a 4 bedroom home? Maybe the office counted as one. He NEVER offered JA one and we know he had a change of roomies!

It was a 5 bedroom home but one of the bedrooms was used for another purpose I believe, possibly the office. And no, no, no, no many how times JA told people that "she LIVED there" she never did and Travis never asked her to. Also, when she left Mesa, she was dead broke, had nowhere to live/couldn't afford a place to live, had no job, no friends and had been ostracized by Travis and all of his friends and church family. Everyone was glad to see her go, especially Travis, with the big double middle finger send-off.
 
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  • #306
I think Jodi was never a roomie because the church would frown upon men and women co-existing together outside the boundaries of marriage.

Funny! Wasn't it a 4 bedroom home? Maybe the office counted as one. He NEVER offered JA one and we know he had a change of roomies!
 
  • #307
Yep, there was a time in the not-too-distant past that open-container laws in vehicles didn't exist, much. The DRIVER of a vehicle could be sippin' on a bottle of Jack and washing it down with a cold Lone Star from the cooler as long as the driver wasn't legally drunk!!

Ahhh the good old days....remember when you could smoke in the doctors waiting room?

Edited to add cause I see so many new faces...that was sarcasm.
 
  • #308
I wish I could change my mind, but nobody is offering me enough to trade in the current one. :sigh:



Thanks, I won't watch now. I have a feeling that stuff like that will blow up in the defenses face!

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Oh, you're not a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. You don't live in NJ.

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:floorlaugh:

:truce:





I actually find it very easy to believe that she never interviewed Jodi. IMO, if she had interviewed Jodi, she wouldn't be sitting on that stand.



Don't help her. Beeshie knows what she did. :snooty:

I'm still waiting for an answer too.
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Was there any other reason you found Australia so endearing?



:waiting:

Yes I loved the people of Aussie land..the fishing was great..the food was incredible and did I mention that the folks there were lovely Not to mention the beauty of the barrier reef, the diversity of the critters there and the landscape of the different areas of Australia. I went alone..never thought thAt I would travel 10000 miles to go on a trip by myself..had so much fun. Glad I went.
 
  • #309
I can't keep up.

:bud:

Don't feel bad, I can't either. Just when I'm getting close to the end of alllllll the pages, 8 more pop up.

I'm skimming now.

:skip:
 
  • #310
I have 2 questions.

The first one is concerning ALV discussing prior cases she has dealt with. She isn't of course naming names, but isn't their a privacy issue about discussing them? Some former clients are surely listening to her on the stand thinking, she is talking about me.

The second question is something Katie on Dr. Drew brought up. Why wouldn't ALV interview Jodi? Is it now allowed or do most expert witnesses never actually meet the defendants?


I was wondering the same thing about her sitting there using client stories as examples. That's not somehow a HIPAA violation?!?!? What if the wife who told her that her husband's "couple of martinis" at night were really three times the size of most people's sat down to watch tv with her husband and he didn't know she told ALV that?!?! :what:
 
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Just getting caught up since I spent the afternoon napping, not feeling all that perky, but couldn't let the night go by without checking WS.....

Has it been cleared up that the Protection Order is regarding billing hours for DT? And that Beth K is mentioned because she is one of those who have requested to see that info? Lots of folks are still under the impression that JA has requested a PFA, so to speak. Makes me crazy LOL Not JA Crazy, but crazy nonetheless :)
 
  • #313
You seem to have left out one important Australian thing. Can you guess what that was? :snooty:

Thunder from down under? Crocodile Dundee? :blushing:
 
  • #314
I understand and agree that Travis was immature and less experienced than Jodi.
But, I guess repulsiveness, vile, untrustworthy, dangerous is what others are describing. I don't like using the word evil because some think I mean possessed and I don't believe in that from a religious aspect.
I just can't wrap my head around why Travis didn't sense what others did.
Maybe it was simply raw sexual attraction and the rest seemed off about her but he was willing to look the other way for the sex.


IMO He did not see what others did because he was trusting and she showed herself to him on her best behavior.If he did not feel loved from his mom as a kid,he might have been flattered that this woman was jealous and wanted him to herself at first.She is very deceiving and she does seem to meld into different persona's.(Like now she looks like her lawyer).She presented herself as she knew what he needed her to be but could not pull it off for long IMO.This is what a socio or psychopath does.
 
  • #315
You're kidding? Really?

I think in this day and age if an adult doesn't wear a seat belt or a helmet ...it should invalidate their insurance....they're on their own. Good luck with that!

If that would be an option, all 50 states should ratify this. How truly stupid can some people be.:furious:
 
  • #316
I have 2 questions.

The first one is concerning ALV discussing prior cases she has dealt with. She isn't of course naming names, but isn't their a privacy issue about discussing them? Some former clients are surely listening to her on the stand thinking, she is talking about me.

The second question is something Katie on Dr. Drew brought up. Why wouldn't ALV interview Jodi? Is it now allowed or do most expert witnesses never actually meet the defendants?

Ya know that really bothered me too.
ALV discussing cases & patients - intimate details about them - just is not right.
I dont care that she didn't use names ....
She says things like "I have a current patient whose is in Grad School and is having difficulties with _____".

Crosses the line IMO.
For all she knows, some of these patients happened to listen to trial ... and she's breaking a bond of trust.
If I were a patient of hers ... I'd feel very betrayed by this.

And ... its not just the patient she refers to in her examples - but surely some of these patients have wives/husbands/family members that know their loved one sees this professional.
I can visualize some family member thinking 'hmmm, wonder if that is my son the Grad Student that is feeling this way?'
If nothing else ... As the patient, I'd be worried that other people might be speculating about what PRIVATE thoughts I may have spoken to her about.

PRIVACY - she crosses that line.
A couple of times today she spoke of patients in the past tense - and even that is not professional.
But many times today she used examples of "this young man I'm seeing now
has doubts about/is worried about _____"
 
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Thinks for posting that PPKik... Reviewing her CV, it is VERY impressive. I cannot for the life of me understand why she would agree to work on this case. It's not just a case of a semi-retired looking for extra $... she has a long history of court appearances -along with so much more~!

I wonder if that means that she really does believe that Jodi was a battered woman. Or even worse...I was thinking earlier, what if their real agenda is to plant seeds in the jurors mind that Travis was a batterer, based on his rocky childhood. idk. Has the jury heard about his challenging upbringing? Are they connecting dots both pro Jodi, and con Travis?
 
  • #319
I just woke up. I'm not feeling well again. Is there any reason I should watch the afternoon session?

No. It was a waste of time if you already know about domestic violence in general.
 
  • #320
This is probable o/t by now but I'm still trying to catch up tonight! I've tried Chantix twice, just couldn't do it. I was having bad dreams and HORRIBLE mood swings, I actually scared myself. I'm actually contemplating hypnotism...

Dr. Samuels can help you
 
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