trial day 42: the defense continues its case in chief #128

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Let me also say that this judge has a lot of patience. Many judges I know would have become very irritated with Laviolette's testimony and her constant need to qualify.

I have had witnesses who've done this, but not to such an extent. Those are nightmare witnesses.
 
NOT an attorney but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :seeya:


I'm seeing video all over the web tonight addressing this issue. One video I watched was OJ's lawyers and they were saying the defense cannot signal the witness in anyway shape or form because it's considered grooming the witness on the stand.

Hope that helps.

They said specifically, no high fives, no thumbs up, no smiles ect...

Exactly. No reason for Alyce to be looking over at JW for signals. She is to answer truthfully. Period. Alyce is losing all credibility. IMO it is just like cheating.
 
When Martinez brought up Arias' self image scoring within a "normal" range, LaViolette pointed out
"the test was given two years after the fact" suggesting this time lapse invalidated or skewed the findings.
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Ms LaViolette--
Are you as an expert (w. Master’s degree) witness scoffing at the other another expert (w. PhD) witness’s opinion,
on the basis of the timing of the evaluation?

Mr. Martinez can raise the issue again to ask when your 44 hours of interviews w. Jodi occurred. Was it ---
--- before the killing?
--- after the killing?
--- one year after?
Oh, your interviews were two years (+) after the killing?
Oh, the same time frame as the other test results which you denigrate?

Not such a good move, IMO. Just sayin. Ya know, Ms LaViolette, in case the subject comes up again.
Cause I think Mr. Martinez is gonna ask ya some more of his pesky old questions.:floorlaugh:

(Thanks to Dark Inertia #750 for providing above jump off point which I italicized & paraphrased .)
 
Vhead, have you seen his questioning of all the witnesses, both prosecution and defense? There is a definite pattern. When the witness is forthcoming and answers the questions he asks, he is respectful and almost mild-mannered, or at the very least very mannerly. If they are evasive (Jodi, Samuels, LaViolette) he raises his voice, he cuts them off when they begin to meander and run away from his questions. He gets in their face until they do answer his questions, and his job is to get those answers any way possible. It is very clear what's going on, and the jury sees it as well. Judging from THEIR questions of at least Jodi and Samuels, they mocked those witnesses themselves!

I am very surprized that you would feel any sympathy for her at all, frankly. She is being paid THOUSANDS of dollars to testify, her approach to assess Jodi vis-a-vis domestic violence is nakedly biased, much of her testimony has HURT real victims of domestic violence, and she appears to be a complete fool regarding the validity of her source, namely Jodi. Not to mention the long-winded, heinous character assassination of the person who the defendant SLAUGHTERED and in front of his family, who then has the audacity to elbow her way to the victim's sister and get in her face. I can't see how anyone could feel sorry for her over some loud, blunt and direct questions from the guy she KNEW would be questioning her.


ITA. I find AVL to be even more dishonest and dangerous than Doc $. People knew who she was before she testified, so I guess some would consider she has some stature and clout. She has totally sold out a victim of DV, to say the least. I can't imagine feeling anything for her but unmitigated contempt. I am watching the trial on youtube right now. She is saying she knows something so well she does not have to refer to it. I think she identifies personally with JA.
 
Yes, Arizona has a Son of Sam law, but it only applies to one who is convicted of a crime. If she gets off, then she is free to make money off a "If I did it, this is how" book a la OJ Simpson.

But it doesn't prevent her mom from profiting.right?
 
I have had similar concerns about his approach with this witness. I don't think you're overreacting or coming out of left field.

But, I do not believe his aggressive approach with this witness will cost him the trial. Not by a long shot. The case against jodi arias is too strong, IMO. In other words, even if the jury dislikes his style of questioning in relation to this witness, i don;t believe it would cause them to disregard the case he has made against the defendant or the terrific dismantling of their witnesses.

And speaking of such, watching this cross (as I am right now), I can see how he has completely put this witness on the defensive, so much so that instead of just answering the questions and letting Ms. Wilmott clear any issues up on re-direct, she must try to anticipate and guess the hidden meaning behind each question and not allow him to make the point she thinks he's trying to. And her refusal to answer his questions in a straight forward manner, as she contorts to try to prevent him from scoring any point, no matter how small, makes her lose all credibility.

So while I have had deep concerns about his style with this defendant, in the end, I think he is achieving the objective he wanted.

Come on now, my husband is a retired atty and he agrees with me - This witness's direct testimony has just been absolutely IMPEACHED !!!
 
The neck wound and the fact that she came equipped for murder is enough to get her murder one, the rest of the testimony is context. And so far, the longer it goes on the context that becomes most apparent is the obsession of the accused.
 
Thank you! Doesn't it seem the defense is worried? But not Jodie she's dripping with confidence. She's spooky the way she stares people down with her bully mentality.

I would love to have observed this today. But much of the time I'm listening to testimony but not watching.

I think she is spooky. In fact, she gives me chills. She is inhuman to me.

I don't think the defense is worried. They've known this is a loser from day one. They're giving it the old college try but all they really hope to accomplish is to try to avoid a death sentence for her client. They know she'll be found guilty of first degree murder, IMO and have all along.
 
Exactly. No reason for Alyce to be looking over at JW for signals. She is to answer truthfully. Period. Alyce is losing all credibility. IMO it is just like cheating.


I truly did tune in really late to this trial so I make a lot of mistakes along the way here but...


I am wondering how ALV can possibly offer any kind of 'expert' opinion on JA's state of mind or demeanor prior to this murder?

She interviewed her in jail for crying out loud and then makes statements of normalcy? How is anything you do in jail for the slaughter of your boyfriend going to be 'normal'?

I am having trouble comprehending the validity of her clinical assessment.

It's as if she goes into an assessment with the preconceived notion that the woman is a battered woman and needs a shoulder to lean on.
 
When Martinez brought up Arias' self image scoring within a "normal" range, LaViolette pointed out
"the test was given two years after the fact" suggesting this time lapse invalidated or skewed the findings.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ms LaViolette--
Are you as an expert (w. Master’s degree) witness scoffing at the other another expert (w. PhD) witness’s opinion,
on the basis of the timing of the evaluation?

Mr. Martinez can raise the issue again to ask when your 44 hours of interviews w. Jodi occurred. Was it ---
--- before the killing?
--- after the killing?
--- one year after?
Oh, your interviews were two years (+) after the killing?
Oh, the same time frame as the other test results which you denigrate?

Not such a good move, IMO. Just sayin. Ya know, Ms LaViolette, in case the subject comes up again.
Cause I think Mr. Martinez is gonna ask ya some more of his pesky old questions.:floorlaugh:

(Thanks to Dark Inertia #750 for providing above italicized/paraphrased jump off point.)

THANK YOU for posting this it's as if you read my mind.
 
Ugh I was looking through trial pictures on Wild About Trial's website and came up on one of JA with blonde hair looking sort of down at the camera. It gave me chills. I can't explain it but I could just feel evil coming from the picture. Upon first look somebody would say it's a good pic of a pretty girl, but look harder and knowing the back story it creeps me out.

Personally, in every picture I have seen of the defendant, she always has a weird look in her eyes. They are vacant and cold. I get why Travis' friends felt a weird vibe around her, it comes through even in pictures.
 
What if the nude pics were on jas camera from another time? She prints them out, brings them with her, takes a pic of the pic with TAs camera?

I have done this many times visiting families doing family history and not wanting to borrow pics.

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me why she would do it or want the nudes on his camera while planning to kill him (and I believe that was her plan) but only way that I can see that the actual pics were not taken that day.

She did say she dyed her hair brown before moving bk to Yreka, March 20th.
TA said he liked the braids on the sex tape.

Who knows just a thought

In reality they were taken that day..

Something to think about I reckon.

Tomorrow is another day, night all
 
What if the nude pics were on jas camera from another time? She prints them out, brings them with her, takes a pic of the pic with TAs camera?

I have done this many times visiting families doing family history and not wanting to borrow pics.

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me why she would do it or want the nudes on his camera while planning to kill him (and I believe that was her plan) but only way that I can see that the actual pics were not taken that day.

She did say she dyed her hair brown before moving bk to Yreka, March 20th.
TA said he liked the braids on the sex tape.

Who knows just a thought

In reality they were taken that day..

Something to think about I reckon.

Tomorrow is another day, night all

But the car rental guy said when she rented the car, her hair was blonde.
 
I really don't understand this judge. She never intercedes. How many times did JM have to remind the judge to reprimand the witness. ALV was all over the place and the judge just sat there until JM pointed out what she was doing. It is like JM is the prosecutor and the judge. She rarely says no to an approach no matter how silly. It's almost as if she's in another world where she just sits back and allows the defense, prosecution, witnesses and defendant run the show while she observes from a distance.
 
I really don't understand this judge. She never intercedes. How many times did JM have to remind the judge to reprimand the witness. ALV was all over the place and the judge just sat there until JM pointed out what she was doing. It is like JM is the prosecutor and the judge. She rarely says no to an approach no matter how silly. It's almost as if she's in another world where she just sits back and allows the defense, prosecution, witnesses and defendant run the show while she observes from a distance.

Thanks, cause this judge made me start to think judges could NOT say no to an approach!

Did you guys see That lady in behind the DT talk to ALV and then talk to Jodi and then go back and talk to ALV during one of the approaches? Is that allowed?
 
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