trial day 42: the defense continues its case in chief #128

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  • #701
  • #702
The thing that is so disturbing to me about ALV is that she has shown absolutely no human emotion or compassion at all about how Travis was killed. It's a direct contradiction to what she is preaching about on the stand.

She talks about how she likes all people, and about how she works with both the women and the men who are in domestic violence situations, to help them through their issues. If that were true, if she really cared about these people, I can't imagine that she would ever condone an absolute slaughter of a person. Not once has she said anything to the effect of how tragic or sad it is that things ended the way they did, how sad that Jodi didn't get help, how tragic that Travis didn't get help, etc, etc. Her demeanor is just cold.

It's almost as if she has total disdain for Travis and feels like he deserved it... that's totally how she comes across. I was blown away today by her flat out refusal to believe Travis' text conversation with his female friend, where he says he was stalked and was afraid. That is beyond disgusting to me. This woman is clearly NOT an advocate of any form of human decency. :furious:
 
  • #703
Did you see her face when JM mentioned that she was excited about taking the IQ test because she thought she was up there with Einstein? NOT "duper's delight"...It was "duper's utter joy". Made the hair on my arms stand up! She is really quite frightening. JW is quite the courageous gal to be there acting like her BFF. Woah!

I actually think that we might just get a bizarre scene in the courtroom before this is all over.

moo

ETA - Tigerbalm, I know you already posted today's testimony...Can you post this last part again??? It was really something!
 
  • #704
I missed something big? What's the Manifesto and where is it? Is this surprising the DT? Does ALV know about this?
 
  • #705
I wane to preface by saying I am 110% pro prosecution... But I am soo mad at Juan Martinez. Why does he need to badger LAViolette .. He is being way too arrogant .. He's coming off diminutive, angry and feels the need to constantly belittle. Ughghg. If I'm feeling bad for her I just sure hope the jury isn't either. He didn't need to address this witness the same way he addressed arias or Samuels. I just don't want his terrible cross exam to sway the jury away from 1st degree. This is a horrible cross exam. Why can't he soften his tone? Does he not get how his points are being lost within his 🤬🤬🤬🤬 fights? I love Martinez, I admire his work and dedication to this case. I just don't like that he's being counterproductive. If it's just me please tell me. I hope it is. Please we can't lose this one. My humble oo!
 
  • #706
I'm still unhappy about that comparative investigation detail. The worst part would be documenting the necessary GYN exams to show that coitus had, in fact, occurred. I want time and a half and a new shoulder holster for that. And I get the good car for the rest of the month. And one guaranteed weekend -- no on calls.

Haha...I think you'd deserve a years worth of pay as well!!!
 
  • #707
Ugh, missed so much of this entire trial...usually I am able to find it uploaded by some wonderful wsleuther but saw nothing of today's trial. Is anyone able to direct me where I can find it? Thank you for all of your help with videos and insightful and sometimes hilarious posts!

This YouTuber seems to upload all the court procedings as well as various other items daily. (Todays included - See Day 42 parts 1, 2 and 3)

http://www.youtube.com/user/croakerqueen123/videos?sort=dd&tag_id=&view=0
 
  • #708
This is becoming funny.

The "huge number of people" who think that Jodi took those pictures herself must also think that Jodi would do just about anything to get herself in prison.

so far she has seemed to do the exact opposite to include at least what.. like five or six fake stories? And now we are to believe it was due to her being abused? NOT SO MUCH.
 
  • #709
Louisville!!! :great:
 
  • #710
Ot

louisville cards has won the championship!

Go cards!
 
  • #711
WHAT IF: during the premeditated planning of the murder Jodi printed off a couple of pictures of prior "activities" with Travis from her computer, brought them along with the gun and knife and used Travis's camera and photographed them. It is a definite possibility in my opinion that they may NOT have engaged in sex the day he was murdered by Jodi.

Last weekend I was going through some pictures of my sons earlier years and came upon a really sweet but small picture that I wanted to enlarge. I have a scanner however I wanted to see IF Jodi could have copied the Pics with a camera. I then attempted to copy my son's pic with my camera. The picture was time stamped. I then downloaded it onto my computer and then printed off an adorable 8X10 --->worked perfectly.

The only problem with that theory is she is brunette in the pics.

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  • #712
I don't think there's any ounce of humanity in JA. When Juan said that thing about Travis being hurt when he was stabbed, she didn't look like she was sincerely affected by that at all. She looked like she was trying very hard to dredge up some tears and look very emotional but she just couldn't do it convincingly. She could barely even pretend to care about anybody else's pain other than her own.
 
  • #713
How does that prove that Travis Alexander's penis was inside Jodi Arias? I don't get it!

That is why I wrote "just about".

Somehow I doubt an object was used, but that is the other possibility.

And that somehow inlcudes their past history, what happened next--and that both DT and Pros stipulated that they had sex before the kiling.
 
  • #714
I wane to preface by saying I am 110% pro prosecution... But I am soo mad at Juan Martinez. Why does he need to badger LAViolette .. He is being way too arrogant .. He's coming off diminutive, angry and feels the need to constantly belittle. Ughghg. If I'm feeling bad for her I just sure hope the jury isn't either. He didn't need to address this witness the same way he addressed arias or Samuels. I just don't want his terrible cross exam to sway the jury away from 1st degree. This is a horrible cross exam. Why can't he soften his tone? Does he not get how his points are being lost within his 🤬🤬🤬🤬 fights? I love Martinez, I admire his work and dedication to this case. I just don't like that he's being counterproductive. If it's just me please tell me. I hope it is. Please we can't lose this one. My humble oo!

I don't agree at all. Juan is asking questions of her in the same way he asked questions of everyone else. Why would he soften his tone? Why is ALV more sensitive or tender than any other witness? I personally believe that he is making tremendous strides with his points. It is ALV who is trying to 🤬🤬🤬🤬 fight.
 
  • #715
This is becoming funny.

The "huge number of people" who think that Jodi took those pictures herself must also think that Jodi would do just about anything to get herself in prison.

Oh, now that's not entirely true. Some of us do have doubts about those pictures. It's reasonable to say that it's not earth-shatteringly important, but it's a fair point of debate (right, Softail? ;))

There are ways she could have taken pics, some folks have come up with some pretty interesting theories about how and why. Frankly, she's a tad on the whackadoodle side (a real psych term, I looked it up ;)), so I'm not sure we can expect to much logical thinking or planning in every aspect of the crime. I mean, wandering off and expecting everyone to sort of accept whatever story you decided to lay on them didn't make a lot of sense, but she did it.

Maybe she was just nutty enough to really want to hurt Travis' family and friends by assassinating his character. And she went to great lengths to do that that day by trying to hack into his computer, load up some kiddie 🤬🤬🤬🤬, and make sure that pics of her were on his camera because -- well, because she's in love with herself and can't stop making herself the star of her show even when it's going to get her hung. I invite you to consider her behavior on the witness stand, and her glaring and spooky stares lately in court. She can't turn it off to save her life, literally.

So, I'm not saying that they didn't have sex that day, but I get Norest4thewicked's point -- there isn't proof of it, certainly not that's acceptable in court. Both parties have essentially stipulated to the fact and consider that it happened. We can continue to argue merrily about it here until St. Swithen's day, because it's genuinely fascinating to try and figure out what was in this person's mind that day.

If you figure it out, don't tell me. I would like to keep that out of my active memory. But let's keep the debates rolling! You all are great.

:cow:
 
  • #716
Did you see her face when JM mentioned that she was excited about taking the IQ test because she thought she was up there with Einstein? NOT "duper's delight"...It was "duper's utter joy". Made the hair on my arms stand up! She is really quite frightening. JW is quite the courageous gal to be there acting like her BFF. Woah!

I actually think that we might just get a bizarre scene in the courtroom before this is all over.

moo

ETA - Tigerbalm, I know you already posted today's testimony...Can you post this last part again??? It was really something!

I did see that. It was freaky. I felt like she wanted to reach around and pat herself on the back
 
  • #717
I wane to preface by saying I am 110% pro prosecution... But I am soo mad at Juan Martinez. Why does he need to badger LAViolette .. He is being way too arrogant .. He's coming off diminutive, angry and feels the need to constantly belittle. Ughghg. If I'm feeling bad for her I just sure hope the jury isn't either. He didn't need to address this witness the same way he addressed arias or Samuels. I just don't want his terrible cross exam to sway the jury away from 1st degree. This is a horrible cross exam. Why can't he soften his tone? Does he not get how his points are being lost within his 🤬🤬🤬🤬 fights? I love Martinez, I admire his work and dedication to this case. I just don't like that he's being counterproductive. If it's just me please tell me. I hope it is. Please we can't lose this one. My humble oo!
I adore the guy, but I don't like everything and anything he does. If I get overly frustrated I just try to remember that he wouldn't have had this job for so long and have the trial record he does if it was counterproductive for him.
 
  • #718
I wane to preface by saying I am 110% pro prosecution... But I am soo mad at Juan Martinez. Why does he need to badger LAViolette .. He is being way too arrogant .. He's coming off diminutive, angry and feels the need to constantly belittle. Ughghg. If I'm feeling bad for her I just sure hope the jury isn't either. He didn't need to address this witness the same way he addressed arias or Samuels. I just don't want his terrible cross exam to sway the jury away from 1st degree. This is a horrible cross exam. Why can't he soften his tone? Does he not get how his points are being lost within his 🤬🤬🤬🤬 fights? I love Martinez, I admire his work and dedication to this case. I just don't like that he's being counterproductive. If it's just me please tell me. I hope it is. Please we can't lose this one. My humble oo!

I think when you look at the mind-bending hideousness of what Alyce has been shown to be doing (objectively speaking, she is in fact lying to trash a murder victim, implying he's an abuser, refusing to believe his texts but is blissfully untroubled by Jodi's behavior, refusal to adhere to professional standards), it's necessary. She is combative and disrespectful in the extreme, and JM also has to contend with a passive judge who seems to zone in and out of the trial at random. Overall he's dealing with a lot.
 
  • #719
I have pondered why Travis let her in that day and had sex with her after all she had done. I have come to the opinion that Travis never stayed mad at anyone. I think he tried to see the best in people even Jodi. He probably did feel some guilt especially if Jodi whined and rubbed it in his face how she felt like he treated her. I also wouldn't put it past her to threaten suicide. Something just tells me that she is sick enough to do that. I could so see her doing mind games with Travis.

I also believe sex was Jodi's weapon and she wanted sex with him that day because she knew she was going to kill him. She was going to be the last woman he had.
 
  • #720
How many attorneys does it take to defend Jodi? Two

How many attorneys does it take to prosecute Jodi? Just Juan!:great::great:


:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

~Saw this on another forum and thought it was funny!
 
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