trial day 43: the defense continues its case in chief #130

[KPinMN]

At this point, "forgetting" to bring her glasses with her to the stand HAS to be intentional.

ALV never "forgot" to bring her glasses to the stand with her on direct...interesting how now she can't seem to bring them to the stand when it's cross. Wanna bet she'll remember them again during re-direct?

 

[scorpio24]

the biggest bit I got from this morning was that LaV was privy to the premeditation of the murder and even questioned it

I thought the part about understanding JA's need to "feel normal" after slaughtering a man was pretty damaging, too. (Even saying, "If it were me...") :twocents:

 

[Weebles]

Get comfy for the afternoon session

 

[rose222]

After I eat my delish spaghetti and meatballs.
Really good bread and fresh butter for dipping,
Do I have time to run down to the corner for Coffee Hagen Daz?
Hershys on top. :rocker::rocker:

I think I might. :great:

:jumping:

 

[DebinGA]

She was adjusting him on top of him and that's normal to ALV geez she's biased:floorlaugh:

I bet ALV thinks "adjusting him" is a chiropractic move for backaches.

 

[AZlawyer]

I wonder about that too. I think there's some kind of law that prohibits forced medical exams.

No. IMO the prosecution could have done this.

 

[Sedonia Sunset]

Whenever she adds "Mr. Martinez" to her answers (with a pause), I think of a mom or teacher calling a child by his/her full name. When they do that, you KNOW they mean business. It's her attempt to get the upper hand and tell him who is in charge. His middle initial is M. Let's say it stands for Miguel. So whenever she unnecessarily adds his name to her answers, I'm going to translate it to JUAN MIGUEL MARTINEZ, e.g., "I already SAID no ... Juan Miguel Martinez."

 

[gauntlet]

The DV is relevant to the question of self-defense--if the defendant suffered DV from the deceased, then the jury can consider her decision to use deadly force from the perspective of a battered woman/person rather than from the perspective of a "reasonable" person.

The PTSD is only relevant IMO to convince the jury that the "fog" is not a lie.

A few questions - and I'm probably wrong on all of them so bear with me please.

ALV and JW made a lot of references to the fact the episodes of 'abuse' were getting closer and closer which apparently gave JA more of a reason to fear for her life on June 4 as she was defending herself. If that was actually true and it was a 'normal' defense ie just a gun shot, would that be a reason for acquittal?

NB I said normal defense because I also wondered if self-defense can only be the same level of harm/force that JA was under.

 

[Nezumi]

the biggest bit I got from this morning was that LaV was privy to the premeditation of the murder and even questioned it

And yet, she still had the cojones to refer to Travis Alexander as "The Perpetrator."

 

[artsy1]

Sorry if this was brought up earlier - there are sooooo many posts to read - but did anyone else catch shortly after the beginning of cross this morning when JM was trying to get ALV to say that she thought JA was truthful, that ALV said "when I first interviewed THE VICTIM...I mean, the defendant".

So, JA wants a mistrial for JM "yelling" at her witnesses, yet her witness can call JA "the victim" in this case instead of Travis? Un-freakin-believable!

 

[sweetmop]

I can understand Jodi not wanting to answer direct questions from JM. She's on trial for an admitted murder and trying to keep the needle out of her arm. Didn't like it, but still understand.

What I DON'T understand is the supposedly professional witness fencing with JM. Either her data is correct or not. PERIOD! ALV is beginning to look like SHE is the one on trial.

I so agree... why in the he!!! can this woman not just give a straight answer? She evades questions and is an outright smart~alec to JM!!!
She's very unlikeable!:blushing:

 

[imawitch]

trial recipe thread - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

ask and ye shall receive

I do not say these words very easily

but "I luvs ya":rocker:

thank u...I need this recipe thread lol

 

[seguek9]

anic:
I have no wine!!! I thought I had a bottle in the pantry!!!
do I have time to run to market? I need chocolate too!!!
anic:

 

[kscornfed]

BBM...I dont understand why the state cannot take xrays and or a physician look at this finger. As with fingerprints, hair samples etc...it is a crucial part of this case. Since it is Jodi who is claiming this is abuse by TA couldnt they subpoena an xray of the finger?

what would that prove? nobody can prove with an xray or an MRI whether it happened in january or in june of 2008. she says january. but she also ADMITTED it was in june when she spoke to det. flores.

if there's a way to date an injury like that, i don't know about it. unless a fracture (and i don't even think it WAS fractured) is healing and showing varying stages of bone formation, i'm not sure you can say with accuracy when a fracture happened---and certainly not narrow it down to a 6 month window. this now happened 5 years ago.

besides being another of her lies, the issue of premeditated murder doesn't depend on that finger. JMO.

 

[zoey]

uh, I need that recipe. I will see if I can find it.

I believe its downstairs in the "basement" area....

 

[RadarLuv]

I have not had a chance to read or listen to anything today. Bummer. From the
few posts that I did manage to scim (sp???) , looks like ALV is still saying gibberish.
Anything newsworthy?? Thanks

Yes. Too much good stuff. Totally recommend watching it on you tube. Good stuff.

 

[atm9533]

I thought the part about understanding JA's need to "feel normal" after slaughtering a man was pretty damaging, too. (Even saying, "If it were me...") :twocents:

yep yep, then telling JM she miss-spoke.

 

[getReal]

I'm old fashioned, what's this "foreplay" I keep hearing kids talk about these days?

It's a ménage à trois ... plus one.
Ooh la la!

 

[DebinGA]

I'm only a few years younger than ALV, and IMO she doesn't WANT to know about all that. She LIKES being old-fashioned. The fact is she doesn't really understand emails and texts and how they are different from, say, a letter.

I have a brother-in-law who is just like her. He's the most annoying person in the world. Willfully ignorant.

It's bizarre ALV would claim IT ignorance under oath after supposedly reading many 1000s of IMs/emails.

 

[zoozoo]

BBM...I dont understand why the state cannot take xrays and or a physician look at this finger. As with fingerprints, hair samples etc...it is a crucial part of this case. Since it is Jodi who is claiming this is abuse by TA couldnt they subpoena an xray of the finger?

IMO it would not benefit them. Say they get an X-ray and it IS broken- then that lends credence to JA's claim that it truly is broken and the dispute about whether it occurred at the hands (or kick) of TA in January 2008 or some other time unrelated to TA or during the murder as TA tried to defend himself (in JA's view, as he was attacking her) - that dispute would still remain.
If an X-ray was done and there is no break, JA could still claim it was sprained so badly that it remains crooked (and as a lay person she just though crooked=broken) and still attribute it to the kick.
So no matter what the results, it wouldn't resolve the dispute.
Now if she were truly telling the truth, the DEFENSE would get the X-ray to show it is broken. Since they have not done that, it is likely she is not telling the truth and the injury is probably not a break, but the result of a cut tendon occurring as her hand slid on the knife while stabbing TA. Only an MRI or CT scan of some sort would possibly show tendon injury. Even then, she could STILL claim TA did it with the kick in January - it would be unbelievable, just as it is now without any radiologic studies.