trial day 43: the defense continues its case in chief #131

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  • #601
They just have to "Answer the question". :floorlaugh:

Really, every question is like listening to a game dodgeball being played and i'd be annoyed if I were Juan too. She's trolling this along and really trying to play him. :twocents:

Hard to answer if you lied about it. Juan has her in the palm of his hand of Justice for Our Travis! She would love to run as fast as she can, the other way!! LOL Now she knows she has been had. Look at her? She is dumb-founded. She wasn't going to surrender to this "Man" up there throwing all this at her but it is over her head now......... I Surrender!
 
  • #602
Was he a vampire? Yes or no.

Do you want the truth, Sleuth5?

That question can't be answered with a simple yes or no.
 
  • #603
  • #604
I hope Juan keeps nailing her on the stand for say, another week or two... she has earned it :)
She would be reduced to jello and her supportive gal pals would get so worked into a frenzy they would finally be banished from the courtroom. (where they belong)
I mean really, do YOU take YOUR friends to work for emotional support? It makes her role in this case seem a bit more personally focused rather than professional.
ie: Hate all abusin' men! Rally the men hatin' troops! Female power! Let's go get em, girls! All for one, one for all!

What a freakin circus.

Most likely these whoa-men are friends/spouse of hers from CA that made the trip with her. They probably have nothing better to do while she is in court. Since there is limited seating, do you suppose we could round up enough hubby's to go take up all the gallery seats for a few days?:what:
 
  • #605
Do you want the truth, Sleuth5?

That question can't be answered with a simple yes or no.

I didn't ask you that question. Was he a vampire, yes or no?
 
  • #606
I think that's a reasonable post, for sure, but isn't her recalcitrance more than a little bit of a problem? Shouldn't she at least be wiling to acknowledge that she might have been wrong? I think she seems unwilling to do that for some reason, and I'm not sure it's case-related. I don't know, though. :cow:

YES, i can't say YES strongly enough. That is such a big misstep on her part. ANY expert would say YES, but her apparently?

Especially when she is finding out little by little she does NOT know the whole story, so the natural response she should be having is "Yes of course i might be wrong if my conclusion is based on a load of bull crap.. Garbage in garbage out"

BUT she is so stubborn not to say it and in fact holds out and says nothing would change her big picture.. that stubbornness does nothing to enhance her credibility
 
  • #607
If she gets the death penalty, then she will be in isolation. She can sing and talk to herself, and when she finishes with that, then she can do headstands.

Yep, she can draw fairytale pictures and talk to the ceiling of her confined prison cell and sing and be Grodi, Right?:jail:
 
  • #608
YES, i can't say YES strongly enough. That is such a big misstep on her part. ANY expert would say YES, but her apparently?

Especially when she is finding out little by little she does NOT know the whole story, so the natural response she should be having is "Yes of course i might be wrong if my conclusion is based on a load of bull crap.. Garbage in garbage out"

BUT she is so stubborn not to say it and in fact holds out and says nothing would change her big picture.. that stubbornness does nothing to enhance her credibility

Oh, I've read enough of your posts to know where you stand on these things, just wanted to hear your position on that problem. :) Her inflexibility is really doing her an enormous disservice. I, like you, was more than willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but there's a limit, and she's crossed the line in my book.
 
  • #609
When the defense was up and asked ALV questions, ALV was able to just clip along with the yes and no.

Watching this is exhausting.
 
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  • #611
I didn't ask you that question. Was he a vampire, yes or no?

objection...relevance...argumentative...mythical creature
 
  • #612
Originally Posted by StephanieHartPI
I am pretty convinced this being the 10th or so Domestic Violence Expert the team attempted to hire, by this time they decided to make her "big picture" very little.

Instead of showing the person so much they ran screaming from the Jail, i saw glimpses of evidence that they did not show her much of anything, in fact a very narrow "scope" if you will.

I believe she was either told or discouraged from contacting the players in the case. Probably fed a line of bologna like "If you call them, then it opens up a whole pandora's box of that person, be it Ryan Burns, or Darryl, having to return to the stand to rebut something you talked about. Instead, here, read this, this is Jodi's diary. And this informative 90 second snippet of the Detective Flores Interrogation.

If you need anything else at all, call us first, tell us what the problem is, why you can't seem to the work with all the numerous documents we gave you. Oh, and yes, you may visit our dear Jodi. Fly down and talk to her.. Ok you are hired!
<snipped for space>



ITA and IMO no expert worth his or her salt would agree to be bound by restrictions such as you've described. Which explains why so many other experts the DT attempted to hire ran away screaming with their hair on fire.

ALV is no expert on anything other than "How to Hate Men".

IMO MOO and all that......
 
  • #613
When the defense was up and asked ALV questions, ALV was able to just clip along with the yes and no.

Watching this is exhausting.

Yes, it is exhausting! The perfect description! :seeya:
 
  • #614
I think so too, and I think the key word there is have. She literally wanted him to be hers. It wasn't like normal people in normal relationships, which clearly she is incapable of... she didn't want to be with him and be his partner, his equal, his lover. She wanted to possess him. Now she thinks she is rewriting his legacy. ENTER: Juan and Team Travis.... She and her lies will be silenced and buried. Travis gets the last word.

The ironic thing is that if Travis did become hers she wouldn't want him any more. I really think the reason she wanted him so much is because she couldn't have him. He may have been the first man to ever reject her (emotionally and maybe in the end physically, too).
 
  • #615
I finally have a few minutes where I can type out a post regarding what IMO has got to be the most drastic transformation in a record breaking amount of a very short amount of time..

It is Jodi's actual physical transformation, more specifically speaking of her face.. I really started truly taking note of this several weeks ago and was initially way off in my time frame from which I was working with, as in I was looking at the transformation having taken place over the course of the long 5 years from the time of the murder and subsequent arrest all the way til present.. And with my looking at it in that large time frame I wasn't that surprised at the very real and pronounced changes that are present.. Again I am focusing on her face, and not anything else.. It makes perfect sense what 5 long years can do and the toll that it takes on anyone. That as I said is no real shocker, nor did it come as a surprise..

It was just a couple weeks Ago in my watching Arias' American Idol for Jailbirds video that I truly began to recognize that the time frame was MUCH SHORTER for which the drastic, and I do mean really drastic change had occurred regarding Jodi Arias' face. You look at Arias In her Jailbird Idol glory and IMO you still very much can see a quite youthful Jodi.. The very much softer, more attractive Jodi was absolutely still alive and well at that point in time.. This meaning that the transformation did not occur over a long 5 year span of time and this meaning that the transformation is not at all due to the toll of the 5 long years in jail that I'd first attributed the change to..

At that point I really began looking, specifically looking for photos of Jodi from just the start of trial, beginning 2013.. I then focused more on video as IMO it is the video footage that really can tell the tale, so to speak, much more accurately than photos only capturing just one specific millisecond in time.. *And that is when it really, really hit me.. It was only in my just trekking back the ultra short amount of time to the beginning of this year, 2013 and to video footage of Jodi Arias at the start of this trial.. And what I found is literally startling and I do mean startling because IMO the transformation of Jodi Arias' face JUST WITHIN THE SPAN OF MERELY WEEKS IS ABSOLUTELY DEFYING OF TRULY ALL LOGIC.. It's not at all just a mere transforming via a defense team tactic ala the Casey Anthony trial and her school marm facade that was portrayed day after day in that Orlando courtroom..*

IMO this that I am speaking of wrt Jodi Arias is actual change to structure and actual facial features..it is something much, much different.. Altogether different from Casey Anthony and truly cannot even be used as a comparison with what I have seen here with my own eyes with Jodi Arias..

This is not just a face that is intentionally presented free of make up to give the facade of plain Jane, young, or fresh faced youthfulness.. While I fully believe without doubt that is the exact motive and facade that this defense team were going for in presenting youthful innocence of a plain Jane girl with low self esteem.. But IMO that is not what is responsible for this drastic transformation that I am speaking of..*
Go back and look at the jailbird Idol footage and IMO you'll see that makeup-LESS face of Arias that does give that look of fresh faced youthfulness.. BUT WHAT WE SEE NOW IN THIS MAKEUP-LESS FACE OF ARIAS IS NOTHING AT ALL RESEMBLING YOUTHFULNESS.. IMO THE STARK CONTRAST IS THAT OF NIGHT TO DAY, BLACK TO WHITE..

Jodi Arias IMO has absolutely right before our very eyes transformed into something that is so ugly, so evil, even so deformed in some very real ways.. And be not mistaken here I am not speaking of petty slurs about Jodi's looks.. That is not at all what I am speaking about.. I am speaking about this unnatural morphing that has occurred rapidly where IMO her facial features have taken on a true distorted, abnormal look to them.. I am being very serious and am not making some type of crude petty joke about this individuals looks at all!!

I Am speaking of very literal drastic distortions that IMO I can clearly see having taken place in just the short period of time of literal weeks.. Am I the only one who is noticing this very literal physical change that has occurred wrt Jodi's face specifically???..

I dare say I am not the only one whose taken note of this specific transformation, tho, I fully realize that we have so much more important issues at hand that we discuss, study, and ponder over.. But IMO this transformation is not as shallow or petty as some may initially think that it is.. IMO there is reason for it and any who've read some of my earlier long winded posts about what I believe Is pure evil personified in Jodi, and my belief that the guise for which she was able to hide in plain sight all of those years prior to the murder amongst the masses.. My very real belief that once that mask was lifted in unleashing the evil on Travis that day I felt that there was a very real consequence to that mask being lifted in that Jodi had not been able to easily remask that which she had so successfully hidden her entire life prior to that day..*

And I am still somewhat of that similar mindset in that I just now believe what has transpired and taken place over the course of these last weeks and months was Jodi not at all diligent in attempting to keep any part of what was left of the mask of "normalcy".. Jodi completely lost sight of the great importance of keeping that mask in place.. Instead throughout cross exam on that stand she became so focused on and obsessed with sparring a war with Juan that she didn't even see that the mask was sliding off her face literally as she spoke on that stand before those jurors.. IMO now in my looking back at that video footage of that cross exam testimony, IMO I can very literally see the proverbial mask slipping away as she spoke.. Very literally exposing that underneath which is very drastic when looked at in comparison.. IMO Juan Martinez fully Un masked Jodi Arias literally right before the eyes of each and everyone of those jurors.. And IMO he did it without the monster ever even noticing.. The monster was so focused on showing she could battle this prosecutor and hold her own.. She became so truly engulfed within that psychopathic, narcissistic need for control wrt Juan's cross exam that she completely lost sight of ensuring to keep that mask in place. IMO Juan Martinez masterfully slipped that mask from her face revealing the ugly, evil that lied beneath without her even knowing or realizing what it was that was his goal, intent, and the entire reason for the way in which he allowed her to "spar" with him in that courtroom.. He was allowing her, herself to reveal her true self by her all consumed in winning the spar and forgetting to keep that damn mask in place..

Many people were frustrated with Juan and repeatedly questioned why is this prosecutor ALLOWING this defendant to behave and speak this way on the stand.. Why was this prosecutor not asking the judge to admonish the defendant and demand that she stick to just answering the questions from the Prosecutor.. Well, IMO just as with all the actions of this Prosecutor while engaging in trial before a court of law there is very much reason, motive, and intent behind everything Juan Martinez does or allows while Prosecuting a defendant such as Arias.. So, too was there very much reason, motive, and intent behind why Juan Martinez "allowed" such behavior from the defendant, Jodi Arias while on the stand under his cross exam..

Jmo Juan Martinez is a mile ahead in the way he thinks, the way he works, and the way he prosecutes successfully cold blooded evil murderers just like Jodi Arias..and IMO the proof positive of this is the way in which Jodi Arias is fully, completely, and without even so much as thin veil left.. She is exposed in all her ugly, evil glory and just taking a look back at the drastic transformation just over the course of this trial that has happened wrt Jodi Arias' face.. IMO there is literally zero doubt about what Juan has successfully unmasked for the world to see.. But most importantly he has unmasked for this jury to see what truly lied beneath the guise of "Jodi" and that's exactly who/what is not only fully capable of the evil horrific slaughter of this victim, a young, healthy, full of life man.. It is exactly who/what plotted, planned, and not only executed that horrific plan of murder, but she delighted in it just as she to this day delights in seeing and inflicting continued horror and pain on Travis via his beautifully strong loved ones who sit in that courtroom every single day!

My apologies for this being one of those really, really overly long winded posts, but IMO this transformation that we've literally watched happen before our eyes is IMO not by accident.. IMO its just further proof of what it is that Juan does so superbly within those courtrooms while very much battling modern day good against evil.. And his demanding that good will win In the end..

Of course nothing more than jmo, tho!
 
  • #616
JM seems to address ALV and the Judge, "Ma'M."

I missed early goings, how did he address JA?
 
  • #617
OMG :facepalm:

Did ALV just tell JM that she would put him in a timeout?:what:

How unprofessional was that. She just sat up there and showed her behind because she knew he had her with those questions. How insane. Did she really just say that? I might have to rewind that one. Wow.......
 
  • #618
Sure. Like the movie "Lost Boys". :floorlaugh: I guess some could consider it a religion.

Elle - bobby was the VAMPIRE HUNTER!! lol Is that a religion??
 
  • #619
Oh, I've read enough of your posts to know where you stand on these things, just wanted to hear your position on that problem. :) Her inflexibility is really doing her an enormous disservice. I, like you, was more than willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but there's a limit, and she's crossed the line in my book.

I start to get mad at the streaming video talking to it.. Today I scared Charlotte (my spaniel) she went to the hallway to bark at me from there LOL

Makes her nervous when I talk to the computer screen!

But wow i got so frustrated. I admit i feel on and off bad for her, I just want her to sit in a room with us, a little popcorn, and a lot of Videos LOL. We'll do an intervention and then see what she thinks of her.. I guess I just want to know that a real cold blooded murderer would not get her sympathy and her attention over someone like us, who have not killed another person.

It scares me that some people are believed and we know they are dangerous.
 
  • #620
I heard Dr Drew mention he'll have on lip readers on his show tomorrow night to find out what JA and Willmott were talking about. I want to watch it!

Awesome! I hope they go over past videos.
 
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