trial day 45: the defense continues its case in chief #136

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Q: "You testified that when conducting a couple assessment, family of origin of both parties is pursued. You pursued family of origin for Travis in assessing him as a perpetrator. Why did you not pursue family of origin for Jodi, in assessing her as a victim?"
 
"If she was a liar, she would have planned a really good lie, and she didn't" ~ La Violette

She sure made a big effort to plan it as a really good lie. She rented a car, borrowed gas cans, bought an additional gas can, turned her license plate upside down, sneaked in during the middle of the night, photographed the event and then deleted them, put the camera in the washing machine ... oh, forgot about the B&E where she stole the gun.

Then, we have the question of how she got him first ... how she caught him off guard.

Martinez will remind the jury all that. I am betting he has some Perry Mason Moments planned in rebuttal. The jury will leave to deliberate with the state's case fresh in their memory.
 
When you have to ponder how many male victims you have worked with....Well, go figure!!!
 
Yo, Alyce:

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any reason JA hasn't manipulated you like she manipulated others
I didn't use JA as the only evidence - I don't believe she manipulated me - what she said was corroborated by others . . not sure who she manipulated I have no information on that

give JA a small warm smile?
done that on occasion - just to acknowledge her . . no other reason - I have maybe given warm . . have friends of mine from elementary school . . .doesn't mean I have looked @ Ms. arias - I have looked @ my friends in front row . . I have avoided looking @ her


personal feeling s for JA or feel sorry for her?
I have liked JA and having a corporative relationship . . other than the 44 hrs - we don't have a friendship or relationship . . .I have had similar relationships with others as well . . I am pretty clear on my boundaries . . if something effected my . . I would step away from it

@ purple plum . . .when prosecutor was entering exhibit you looked @ JA gave a half smile and shrugged your shoulders? . . why
I didn't know I was doing that

believe her?
believe those things because of corroborative data . . I don't have data wasn't there during any physical incidents - because much of what was said was corroborated by other sources - I belive them and they paint a picture

if you found out JA had exaggerated the physical abuse do you think you should revise your assessment in the degree and severity
I would certainly re-look @ things - that would be important but I am really looking @ rage and what happens with TA in this relationship . . .. other things that are very much less intimiate with other women. . .degree of abuse in his childhood . . he writes I don't like 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 . . .not just what JA says - looking @ what ta says . . .his own behavior - I don't think someone has to be perfect to be a battered woman . . we dont' have to like everyone . . not mean they were not victims of abuse . . not personal feelings but do I believe this was what was happened

voice, tone, intonation, verbal discussion - often facial and body signals can been seen. . .clarifying questions and statements can be made . . which do you give more weight written or verbal?
I had more written . . . gave written more . .

verbal interaction with JA was behind a screen and sometimes couldn't even see JA . . .very uncomfy to spend that many hours with someone - because I had more written information I relied on it../

no interview with TA . . . not fair to determine their relationship
wish I could interview him .. got that from his friends, his interaction with JA and others I feel I got an idea of TA

text, im's emails you viewed
I am aware there were phone ccalls . . . not sure if they were recorded . . I know phone sex was recorded . . .

did you ask JA if phone calls were part of those exhanges
yes I think there were follow up phone calls made . . .don't have dates

of the 18 cases forensic how many were males victim and not perp?
give us numbers . . .
at least 2 but I am not sure . . one where the father killed his son in law and father who did killing was also victim

couples therapy . . family of origin in assessing TA why not assess JA family of origin for possible abuse . . her level was much lower than tA often we see women and sometimes men do same sex role play . . .

I thought JA had fairly dysfunctional family but tTA's was far more violent and far reaching ways of abuse.

end of day - please be back tomorrow morning start @ 9:30
 
After many hours of observing ALV I have noticed that, when she smiles after a question it translates into....."Good one....you got me....now let me figure out how to evade/squirm out of question"
 
Really AVL? Do you still think Jodi's risk of becoming an abuser is a lot less than Travis'? Are you sure you don't want to reevaluate the situation?
 
WOW She didn't stand for the jury. I have never seen an experienced witness not show that deference to the jury.
 
ATTENTION ABUSE VICTIMS

Your abuse is rated on a scale of how bad your abuse was during childhood.

I wonder how this is scaled?

Wow. Just. Wow.
 
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