trial day 46: the defense continues its case in chief #138

[Imprint]

ALV just revealed what her issue is with Juan. She is determined not to do what he "wants", no matter what it is.

 

[SusieD]

The defense could have requested that an alternate reasoning be given so as to not create a media storm like when Juror No. 5 was booted.

We will have to hear from court watchers if No. 11 looked ill.

If Juror No. 11 was ill they would have broken for the weekend much like they did when ALV was ill. I don't buy the being ill reason, at all.

If Sam and Tanisha are both crying I would guess that it's a repeat of what happened with Juror No. 5.

The jurors that are left need to remain. They still might loose a few before deliberations.

I don't want the defense to get a mistrial due to the juror situation.

As much as I don't like that judge, there is no way she would lie in open court about the reason for a juror dismissal, Regardless of what the defense wants.

 

[tlcya]

JM questioning the limitations of discerning people's patterns of behavior via only the written word such as texts.

ALV I am saying in many cases that is all we have. you are asking me what's more effective, and I am telling you it depends, MR Martinez

JM I am asking you to think of a situation where you have an actual conversation with an individual and those instances where you only have a text message. Are you saying they are equal in their value in evaluating?

Tripe and doo doo being served up

OMG

ALV says she would have repferred to be able to speak to TA

sigh

Only sadly he is dead

Good gravy.

This is downright painful to watch.

Just admit it lady, its killing me to watch this mess.

 

[elementary]

She totally minimises the idea that interviewing Travis would make a difference.

 

[newsjunkie]

If anyone believes this testimony, contact me for details about. . .

 

[HarvestMoon]

Juror 11 was most likely a guilty/DP vote causing the tears.

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

GTFO Who here has not been misunderstood in written text because people don't get the inflection or tone?

She's being ridiculous ...

 

[MeeBee]

Guys, don't worry about Poquito. Yes, he was part of KCL's 5-pack but he didn't take notes or submit questions. The question askers are still there.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

ALV starting to patronize JM again with the constant "Mr. Martinez".

 

[Mrs G Norris]

OH so basically she's saying one side of the story is enough. Women don't lie about DV only to cover up for horrible men anyway, HAS SHE BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK?

 

[Kaddy Wonders]

WAT is reporting J11 as who I think is pony tail guy:

On one of our juror descriptions, Juror 11 was Paco.

 

[Mr.Midnight]

Please FTLOG get her off the stand..shes not going to concede to anything..you could have surveilence video of her committing the act and ALV opinions would be the same are we are getting now

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

Oh my gosh, she just will not even acknowledge that she can't infer anything accurate from a text message.

"Oh, I can't imagine anyone being in a good mood and using those words."

Huh? Most of us text what would sound horrible to her e.g. "Don't hate, b*tches" and "you're just a jealous hatin' ho" and the conversation could be about a new pair of $800 boots I snagged for $90.

It's BANTER between good friends. Context, DV Lady. CONTEXT.

 

[missy1974]

JC on HLN saying that Juror 11 never looked sick to her. So whatever the illness, it wasn't showing. Hope he is ok.

 

[Beffie]

Why didn't I just stick with the ninja story?

Alyce is being belligerent and intentionally obtuse. Nauseating.

Can't she get in trouble for lying to the court?

 

[wenwe4]

Part of the evaluation process - you were paid to do this $250 per hour . . testify is $300 per hour . . .part of the process in reaching your opinion - you evaluated TA?
I looked @ his behavior . . . are you asking if I diagnosed it?
no . . what you evaluated behavior and incorporated it into report
evaluated a human being
yes he is a human being
one conclusion you reached he was a liar
I reached opinion he told lies . . didn't call him a liar . . he told lies to other people . . professed to being a virgin.
people who tell lies . . are a liar
perpetual liar
no one say perpetual . . .a pattern of lying is a liar (as you said with TA)
correct

you indicated TA had a pattern of lying
correct
anyone with a pattern of lying is a liar
I said he lied
a pattern of lying
yes
he is a liar
yes

he escalated these arguments
pattern of escalating
you called them rants based upon the written word
correct
you couldn't see him when he was writing
correct
you said 90% of all communication in clinical is non-verbal
in face to face communication . . .when we are face to face 90% and it is the same in the field

you said 90%
right

text messages not referenced .. you don't get to see the interaction
you get to see it on the page - get to hear it
see words on the page
correct
you don't get to see or hear inflection
I think it would be hard or difficult to think someone in a really good mood could call someone those names
am I asking good mood - limitations about text messages
I suppose there are limits as on the spoken word

talking about text messages . .

one person talk @ a time

you are as effective in conducting evaal in this ae when you have a clinical interview for one person and the other you only have the written word . .. just as good
I am saying in many cases that is all we have . . it depends on the situation . . I could be having an interview with someone totally misrepresenting themselves - consistency across sources makes a difference
are you done
yes

that clinical interview vs. a text message . . both equal in terms of making an eval @ the time they are making statements
I am saying they are different - not which is better . . . a clinical interview for people who come into my groups and their partners and the info is different . . can't say one is better

I said I would like to have an interview with TA and I still would = you want me to say it is better . . I get different info . . I had enough info
it is not better to have the person involved in the relationship involved vs. a text message

I am not saying that it is better or worse - comparatively would have been good to compare 2 stories . . I always want more info if I can get it.

you believed efendant based upon readings
based on which readings

I didn't go into this eval believing JA . . I went in with an open mind looking @ what is there and what I can base my opinion on . .. 44 hrs over different periods of time - nowhere spoke to Ta. . .

your eval in this case is defective because only spoke to JA who has lied . . and not Ta
I would disagree that my eval is defective

nothing else your honor
may we approach?
you may

 

[lil_buddy]

new witness?

 

[Tulessa]

Juror No. 11

She is a married, white female in her 30s. She takes a lot of notes. She does not look at Arias during testimony. She tends to look straight ahead or down at her notes.

Source: HLN

Consider the source. :floorlaugh:

 

[MandyLeigh]

To clear up the confusion:

WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
Juror 11 was the short latino guy. He would mean mug me every time he would walk out the door. He wore affliction shirts. #JodiArias

OH NO! Not Poquito Mas He was one of my favorites in the thread where they talked about the Jurors. He has really beautiful long hair.

He has had a terrible cough but has drug his sick behind into court anyway.

Does this mean he is out of being a juror? I hope not.

 

[Sweetiemom]

wow! Mr Martinez is done.