trial day 51: REBUTTAL; #156

[nursebeeme]

How many minutes till takeoff?? :scared:

they have taken off.. they are in chambers or some sort of something. (we cannot see or hear but they are dealing with things related to the trial in chambers)

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Anyone know??? If the judge decided on the motions today, will it be announced in court?

 

[luvtenniss]

Just to throw in one more option, this is the feed I listen to/watch every day of trial:

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/02/jodi-arias-trial-livestream/

 

[Truth Detector]

If it's a laptop, it can be overheating. My macbook was and I wrapped an ice pack around a towel and put it on my lap/coffee table.

Take compressed air and blow out that fan.

If it's not spinning as new, may require replacement...

I've recovered data from dying HDD's by using re-freezable cooler packs and fans, getting them to spin long enough to transfer data.

What LE did to recover deleted images from Travis's micro-SD card is routine and can be done for free.

 

[anagrammy]

I didn't know we were on a new thread already! :blushing: Carrying this over:


I think to understand intimate partner violence one has to stop asking how the victim could have made different decisions or found him/herself there in the first place. Abuse is a complex series of behaviors, evolving gradually, that make a victim doubt their reality, their perceptions, and most importantly themselves.

How were they manipulated into staying in the relationship by the abuser? What fears or hopes were leveraged against them? Did they believe they had people to resort to who would understand - or those that would belittle them for having 'allowed' abuse? Did they have access to financial resources? A home to live in, separate from the abuser? Funds for an attorney? Were they allowed access to drive? Work? Are there children the victim risks having to allow often unsupervised access by the abuser to should they divorce? Will people believe him/her?

For a great many victims, there are no laws to protect them so the government is rather out of the equation anyway. Unless abuse escalates to prosecutable physical or sexual violence a victim is without that resource. Because of the nature of abuse, and a deep and complex psychology behind it, by the time it escalates to that, abuse victims are so enmeshed its that much more difficult to leave.

Intimate partner violence truly transcends all boundaries. Professional, well-educated, wealthy, self-sufficient people become victims too. You meet someone who seems perfect for you, very slowly cracks begin to appear that are easily rationalized or minimized (Oh, he snapped at me because he had a bad day.) and before you even realize it, you're literally trapped in a situation you truly don't know how to get out of, with kids, money, and/or self intact. If it began with being hit on the first date - or being called a litany of bad names, even, very few would ever stay beyond it.

The overwhelming majority of people don't like to be abused. They don't stay, or return, to be abused either. They love, hope, and often fear. And that hope, love, and fear is very often twisted and used against them, to keep them in a relationship making them miserable, by someone who says they love them.

(ETA: As an aside, I truly don't believe anyone can blame, guilt, or shame an abuse victim more than what they already feel internally. It's a long, hard process personally working through the whys and hows, which are different for every victim. Just food for thought for those people may come in contact with someone in abuse, or freshly out of it, themselves. They already feel stupid. They already know they've made mistakes. They already worry they can't survive on their own. They already feel shame or embarrassment for 'allowing' it and feel immense guilt if loved ones were hurt through their abuse too.)

Frameable. THank you, britskate.

 

[dadgum]

When will it start? Can we play ball until then??
Sam's companion in training, Mindy

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Oh, good heavens - now JA went back to da judge? Is it migraine weather today?

 

[ctmom]

Oh Weebles...
Where are you??

 

[corundogs]

BBM~ Actually it does imo. The killing was so brutal and sloppy. To me that is rage killing which can theoretically equate to "crime of passion".

Then you don't believe the whole premeditation thing? No gas cans, stolen gun, etc.??

Cause for a crime of passion to fit, you can't believe any of that.

One cannot drive 1000+ miles for it to be crime of passion. Crime of passion, as far as I know, is an "immediate reaction to an action" type thing.

Maybe a lawyer can explain it better for us?

 

[nursebeeme]

No Donovan jokes please and thank you :nono: :nurse:​

 

[EGirl]

Who is Stephen/Steven?

Travis's brother

 

[leebee52]

HOW TYPICAL. Ugh.

 

[Mr.Midnight]

How many questions in do we get a "Objection! May We Approach?" From JW? Going to say under 7 questions in

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

That's strange, they're late today. So unlike them. :kimsterwink:

 

[Tulessa]

Who is Stephen/Steven?

TA's brother.

 

[kaydono]

Hummm? Good theory, but I think they could still have gone with the BWS to explain the overkill. I think they really wanted to pull off the self-defense. They were so pizzed that the plea deal didn't work, they wanted to teach JM "a thing or two." Now that they have seen just how tremendously they failed (post DeMarte) and no touchdown, they are going to try kicking it in. I think they will still fail tremendously.
:moo:

lol @ those two attempting to "school" Martinez. Way funny.

 

[Chelly]

Former pacifist opposed to death penalty until JA murdered Travis.
Now support death penalty for JA. Justice for Travis and his family. Ok I said it.

Hello everyone. Finally! Court day with Juan. How good can it get!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I have no CNN feed! Its the only one that works for me...damn firewall!

I usually do CNN, too, but they must not be streaming JA trial today. Too much else going on, I suppose.

'Sleuthers recommended Wild About Trial, so I'm giving that a try.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I wonder if the jurors bring along a deck of cards to play while they wait. They must be so frustrated.

 

[Steely Dan]

At 1pm I'm fftobed: if nothings happened so far.