trial day 51: REBUTTAL; #158

[TexMex]

Does the jury know that a gun was stolen from her grandparents home a couple of weeks prior to TA's death?

Yes, the officer from Yreka who investigated the burglary testified.

 

[hindsight2020]

Does that work? I'll try anything!

I thought it was a joke from the movie 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding', where the dad uses windex to cure all ailments.

 

[Nhic]

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[minazoe]

I find it hysterically funny that all of the women on Dr. Drew said the same thing, I think almost all women watching thought yesterday...that jodi was only crying because her hair isn't blonde anymore...

women know...

 

[megmono]

I woke up with a big fat cold sore this morning...my first thought was "Damn I look like Jodi Arias"!!!

cold sore tip: boudreaux butt paste works wonders. better than anything they actually make for coldsores. go get ya some shy (said in my best cajun voice)

 

[kaydono]

Good morning all.

This was linked up thread, but I thought I would share in case others missed... has a bit of good info in there, although at this point, just rumors...

http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/24...y-come-on-everybody-do-a-loco-motion-with-mi/

(snipped)

Rumor in the courtroom Tuesday was that Det. Flores is to be called to demonstrate The Shelf Theory, that is, jumping up on a shelf on pins would result in the shelf tipping and the contents becoming disturbed. Photos of the crime scene showed the closest was meticulously in order. I’m not a fan of demonstrations when you are ahead because they are risky. (See Also: OJ Glove Incident) Let’s hope for the best there. This rumor is looking to be simply that, a rumor that is becoming more unlikely the further I investigate. A more reliable sounding rumor is in the red update below.

UPDATED: There is new speculation by Mary Ellen Resendez of Phoenix ABC News 15 that the defense team’s motion to preclude involves 5 witnesses including Suzie Dittman, Robert Brown, Dr. Kevin Horne, Jacob Meford and Diana Reid. Clearly, the last two testified on Tuesday. Robert Brown is another Mesa Forensics Computer Detective much like Michael Melendez who testified on Tuesday. Horne is the medical examiner to refute Jodi’s timeline of events with regard to the nature of the injuries. I can’t imagine the Judge allowing him to be precluded. Suzie Dittman is a fraud investigator for JP Morgan Chase. Her LinkedIn profile describes her job as, “Investigations (to) include internal & external crimes such as retail fraud referrals; longer-term, complex frauds requiring interviews with potential suspects and the identification of trends, patterns and ring identification. Provide support to the various Lines of Business within JPMorgan Chase, law enforcement and outside financial institutions in the investigation of potential fraudulent activity.” So her testimony will be about credit card fraud. It could be something exciting or just a second source to reinforce the gas station lady’s testimony about the need to verify a credit card after it is swiped for the third time, presumably for the third gas can. Attempting to preclude any of these people reeks of defense desperation in my opinion. Loco Motion indeed.

On Wednesday, the jury will return at 1:30 their time, 4:30 ET. We believe that there will be a hearing at 11:00/2:00 that may be the surrebuttal motion being heard. It’s unclear what if anything is planned for 9:30/12:30 but it seems the motion to preclude a rebuttal witnesses will have to be done before the jury returns tomorrow as well, so I plan to turn the live feeds on at the usual time and wait and see. However, since Dianna and Jake testified Tuesday, that may have been ruled on on Tuesday. If one or all of the remaining contested witnesses does not testify we will know why Jodi was so happy at the end of the day today. I just can’t see the judge precluding any of these witnesses.

Oh crap, remember all the speculation we’ve done about why Jodi was so freaking happy at the end of the day? Annie posted the answer in yesterday’s comments. I bet she found out the manslaughter lesser was going to be allowed into the jury charge. That would certainly do it!

We’re in the home stretch boys and squirrels!

I meant to say thanks so much for posting this.

 

[laniefi]

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UGH - can't wait till she is convicted so they can stop this....

 

[Snoopy1]

to Juan for yesterday's score for Travis....

 

[Spool]

Unfortunately, I think Jodi is an "I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right" kinda gal. She might even prefer infamy over plain ole "famy".

Deb, I agree with you.

I think the defendant will be remembered as a skanky two-bit small town girl who wanted to "be somebody."

She's just one more murderer.

 

[megmono]

I was a bit worried about the Jury question to Deanna Reed asking if the Laws of Chastity were widely known?? What does this have to do with the murder of Travis??

because jodi lied about it, of course!

 

[kayice]

DD has been a member of Mensa since the age of 6. Mensa members must have overall IQ scores at or above the 98%ile. Depending on which test is submitted for membership in the high-IQ society, most members have an IQ of 130+. An average IQ score of 119 would not qualify Jodi for Mensa membership.

Jodi would need an overall IQ score of 130 on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale that was used by Dr. DeMarte to quality for Mensa. JA's IQ is 119.

http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifyingscores/

Please, who is DD? Too many DDs now. Drew and DeMarte (sp?) Never mind. Duh. Not a member, obviously.

 

[Nhic]

O/T

This is for Paintr :seeya::floorlaugh:

 

[Nhic]

I wish the media would stop reporting JA cried when she saw the pic of her and TA yesterday. There were no tears, just a fake show!

 

[ElleElle]

Yes, and she is in solitary confinement 23 hours per days.

Any money she makes of her "art" should go to the Alexander Family and the state of AZ. moo

UGH - can't wait till she is convicted so they can stop this....

 

[Hopeful One]

Hiya!! :seeya:

Just catching up on what happened here last night. I suddenly got this overwhelming feeling of sadness and started crying. All of this breaks my heart and if I feel like that, imagine what Travis's family must feel!!

I just want this to be over already.

I hope today is another good day for Travis. Go, Juan!!

 

[livelife]

I was a bit worried about the Jury question to Deanna Reed asking if the Laws of Chastity were widely known?? What does this have to do with the murder of Travis??

that juror question was an effort by the juror to discredit Jodi's previous testimony that she had just relied on Travis' definition of chastity...

 

[Nhic]

Do the mods here have this ability? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Paintr]

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Read an article last night speculating that JA's claim on the state to pay for her defense could be revisited in light of the monies paid for art. Wouldn't it be great if she had to pay that money to Arizona for all those hours that the DT stalled and ALV and Dr Samuels blathered?

 

[BritsKate]

This maggot is even more vile than we previously thought. That's just sick. I wonder if Arias had a hand in that young man's death, as in the power of suggestion or buying weapons together. And using his life struggles for a story, combined with that picture of young Travis (cartoon underpants) and his Dad...= Travis pedophile lies by Jodi.

I still do not understand why Jodi's BPD is left there to stand alone, when it is clear she's a psychopath to a greater degree. I feel so sorry for people with BPD that might be compared to Jodi and I hope they do not despair, do that to themselves. This psychopath Jodi knows the difference between right and wrong, knows the law but does not care unless it is to her advantage.
More lives that Jodi used and trashed in her games, the Freeman family.

RBBM

The BPD Jodi knows the difference between right and wrong too though. I firmly believe Jodi's a psychopath, even if she's a borderline psychopath - which is possibly a newer subtype of female psychopathy still being researched.

I don't want to go down a rabbit hole but there's been a lot of debate over antisocial vs. psychopathy the last couple of decades. Many clinicians feel they're the same (and they were meant to be) but psychopathic researchers have often expressed that the DSM criteria for antisocial was too rigid and many people who could be considered antisocial/psychopathic can't meet the exacting standards. Some though, feel psychopathy and antisocial are wholly separate and deserve their own categorization. (I'm one of those.)

Everything changes next month. Antisocial and psychopathic are being combined in the DSM and the necessary criteria of evidence of Conduct Disorder before the age of 15 is being dropped. The result will be that tons of people will now fit the criteria who never did before - which should lead to more accurate diagnoses, instead of Borderline, which is often a 'fallback' diagnosis because criteria is less stringent.

Jodi's prolific lying? That's an antisocial trait much more than a borderline one - but Jodi couldn't have been diagnosed antisocial, even if she is, because her history didn't support the rigid criteria.

Borderline's easy for the jury to understand and it strongly supports the State's contention. Borderline does nothing to absolve her of any responsibility and everything to show a pattern of manipulation. I think DeMarte and Martinez made the right call on this one.

JMO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

UGH - can't wait till she is convicted so they can stop this....

I see the mouth color by numbers piece...

I wouldn't be surprised if there are color by number pieces of other... Ahem... Er... Orifices....

uke: