Trial Delayed until at least January

[otto]

Even if CY had pulled off her socks, the blood residue on her feet would have transferred to the carpet as she walked down that hallway to the bathroom and what remained in the tiny crevices of her nails would have transferred to the bed sheets. I can understand LE's conclusion on one of the search warrants that stated the best explanation was that she was removed from the house.

JMO

Maybe she was wearing thick socks ... since the furnace wasn't working properly ... and maybe the blood didn't actually soak through to her feet. The assumptions that have been made regarding the socks is that she removed them in the bathroom, but that may not be true.

 

[MyBelle]

Hours after the running water hose had diluted it and washed it all away.

That's your opinion. If cops shared it, I doubt they would have wasted their time testing for it.

 

[NCEast]

Ok guys, I'm on my way to bed. I love the back and forth and I truly do appreciate an opposite viewpoint at times. Keeps my brain a'working. Night all.

 

[MyBelle]

Maybe she was wearing thick socks ... since the furnace wasn't working properly ... and maybe the blood didn't actually soak through to her feet. The assumptions that have been made regarding the socks is that she removed them in the bathroom, but that may not be true.

There are big holes in that theory. She should have been covered in blood, especially her hands and whatever her hands touched. Her mother was on the floor and she most likely touched her. Yet the only blood was on socks she wasn't wearing and found in another room. Makes no sense whatsoever. Toddler socks aren't very thick but I don't see it even possible for blood not to soak through.

JMO

 

[Madeleine74]

There was no evidence presented that CY required cleaning up

Her footprints in blood tell a different tale. And then the blood wasn't transferred into the bed where she was found hiding?

 

[Madeleine74]

If the cops don't test they're incompetent.

If the cops do test they're just fishing around and are desperate.

If the cops focus in on the husband they're railroading the guy.

If the cops don't focus in on the husband they'd be a laughing stock by every other investigative professional in the country.

If the state crime lab is used then it's all invalid because of some bad guys and their reporting in the 90's.

If the state crime lab isn't used then why is the state nervous and what are they trying to hide?

If the FBI is called in that's unfair. If the FBI isn't called in the keystone cops are fubaring the investigation.

I've seen renditions of all of these types of excuses.

I'm pretty sure there's a contingent of folks who are just plain pizzed when a murder is investigated at all.

 

[otto]

About those bloody footprints ... it doesn't sound like she was carried from the bedroom to the bathroom ... since her footprints were tracked between the two rooms.

"Investigators testified they tracked her bloody footprints in the bedroom and into the adjacent bathroom."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michelle-y...sband-charged-murder-begins/story?id=15386290

She is heard in the 911 call discussing a wash cloth. Why are we assuming that she couldn't use the wash cloth to clean off her feet ... she seemed well aware of the concept.

 

[MyBelle]

Of course he couldn't be ruled out. Investigators made it clear to everyone that Jason was their number one suspect even though he was out of town for a meeting at the time of the murder. Jason knew this before he arrived at home. He had been advised to lawyer up before talking to police and his lawyer advised him not to talk to police for any reason. Investigators shouldn't have been so obvious about their suspicions.

I almost think that investigators and the prosecutor have been getting their bright ideas from forums ... they seemed to believe that all they had to tell the jury was that Jason wouldn't talk to them and that meant he was guilty.

BBM. I've wondered if the reason there was a mistrial was because jurors were ignoring the Judge's instructions and getting misinformation planted on forums.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

About those bloody footprints ... it doesn't sound like she was carried from the bedroom to the bathroom ... since her footprints were tracked between the two rooms.

"Investigators testified they tracked her bloody footprints in the bedroom and into the adjacent bathroom."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michelle-y...sband-charged-murder-begins/story?id=15386290

She is heard in the 911 call discussing a wash cloth. Why are we assuming that she couldn't use the wash cloth to clean off her feet ... she seemed well aware of the concept.

The socks and bloody footprints weren't found in the adjacent bathroom. They were found in another bathroom down a hallway. Testimony at trial was that there was only a small smudge of blood found in that hallway.

JMO

 

[otto]

BBM. I've wondered if the reason there was a mistrial was because jurors were ignoring the Judge's instructions and getting misinformation planted on forums.

JMO

I thought the judge declared a mistrial because he could see that the jurors were moving towards not guilty rather than guilty, so he stopped the deliberations prematurely thinking that giving the prosecution a second chance was their only hope for a conviction.

 

[MyBelle]

I thought the judge declared a mistrial because he could see that the jurors were moving towards not guilty rather than guilty, so he stopped the deliberations prematurely thinking that giving the prosecution a second chance was their only hope for a conviction.

He doesn't strike me as a Judge who would misuse his authority in order to manipulate an outcome.

 

[tarheel8600]

If they produced the rock and claimed that there were 3 alleles that were consisent with Jason's DNA, then they were hoping that the jury was completely ignorant about DNA analysis. The alleles probably matched half the jury and one of the lawyers too.

From reading I have done, I believe that courts accept 13 markers as identification. When you have 13 matching markers, you get the figures of 1 in 3 trillion chance of it matching someone else.

The rock had 3 of JY's DNA markers. This puts the figure of the DNA donor being someone other than JY at around 1 in 42 males. While this doesn't seem like high odds, if you had a courtroom with 100 males present, statistically there would only be 2.38 males who would have those 3 DNA markers.

 

[otto]

The socks and bloody footprints weren't found in the adjacent bathroom. They were found in another bathroom down a hallway. Testimony at trial was that there was only a small smudge of blood found in that hallway.

JMO

So the prosecution's theory is that Jason committed murder, suddenly realized that his daughter was awake and was walking in blood, stripped down (so as not to get any blood on his daughter), carried her to the bathroom, took off her socks, cleaned her feet, took her to her bedroom, gave her medication but left someone else's prints on the medicine cap, waited for her to dose off, took her to his room and put her to bed on his side of the bed, somewhere along the way he showered (either in the house or on the back lawn), got dressed, put on a couple of different sized shoes, made tracks on the pillow, ransacked the jewelry box but left someone else's prints on the box and then drove the speed limit all the way back to the hotel, stopping once for gas but appearing a foot shorter than he actually is, entered a locked door, tilted a camera that is 10 feet above the floor ... it's quite the story. That's quite the run on sentence.

 

[otto]

He doesn't strike me as a Judge who would misuse his authority in order to manipulate an outcome.

Some other judge declared him the slayer without so much as a trial ... all based on the bold claims from an investigator that believed him to be guilty and a bunch of crazy drunken party stories. When I hear crazy stuff like that I have to wonder what's in the water in the courthouse.

 

[otto]

From reading I have done, I believe that courts accept 13 markers as identification. When you have 13 matching markers, you get the figures of 1 in 3 trillion chance of it matching someone else.

The rock had 3 of JY's DNA markers. This puts the figure of the DNA donor being someone other than JY at around 1 in 42 males. While this doesn't seem like high odds, if you had a courtroom with 100 males present, statistically there would only be 2.38 males who would have those 3 DNA markers.

Thanks ... I couldn't remember if it was 13 or 16. Three alleles is insignificant and cannot be used to claim that there's a match to anyone.

 

[MyBelle]

So the prosecution's theory is that Jason committed murder, suddenly realized that his daughter was awake and was walking in blood, stripped down (so as not to get any blood on his daughter), carried her to the bathroom, took off her socks, cleaned her feet, took her to her bedroom, gave her medication but left someone else's prints on the medicine cap, waited for her to dose off, took her to his room and put her to bed on his side of the bed, somewhere along the way he showered (either in the house or on the back lawn), got dressed, put on a couple of different sized shoes, made tracks on the pillow, ransacked the jewelry box but left someone else's prints on the box and then drove the speed limit all the way back to the hotel, stopping once for gas but appearing a foot shorter than he actually is, entered a locked door, tilted a camera that is 10 feet above the floor ... it's quite the story. That's quite the run on sentence.

That's it!! It really isn't surprising that eight adults refused to buy it.

JMO

 

[Just the Fax]

Interesting to note that one of the items the last jury requested was a better picture of the shrubs outside that exit door--the one that was propped open. The state didn't have a better picture, but JTF happened to take pictures back then and he has at least one picture showing the distance of the nearest shrubs to that steel door. JY would have to contort himself to be able to get a 'twig' to prop that door, if he could have even reached one of the side shrubs.

Note that JLY wants nothing to do with any rock. Even though that's the closest item with which to prop a door, and is solid enough to hold the weight of the door, and was available and plentiful. Nope...he cannot be associated with a rock.

Captain America?????
Hmmm..what was wrong with all the burnt orange mulch/rocks?
Not a thing wrong, of course (except his dna was found on a rock)

 

[tarheel8600]

Wrong. Mr. Hicks did not testify that the camera was unplugged at 11:20.

JMO

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/video/9709817/#/vid9709817

I never said that Mr. Hicks testified to that. I would appreciate it if you would read my posts before you call me out, please.

LE testified that it was unplugged at 11:20 because that was the last time an image was recorded from that camera until it was plugged back in the next morning.

 

[otto]

It's really quite shocking to know that investigators wasted money testing rocks outside a hotel door to see if any had 3 alleles that matched their preferred suspect, or to know that they wasted money tested the soil under a running hose to see if there was any trace of blood. I think they should have stepped back, taken it from the top and tried harder to avoid tunnel vision.

 

[tarheel8600]

Thank you for posting this!! I've been going back and trying to find it without luck. A picture is worth a thousand words!! Good job, JTF!!!