Trial Discussion Thread #10 - 14.03.19, Day 13

[minor4th]

I don't know why it would make anyone laugh? That was the search term investigators missed in the computer forensics of Casey Anthony - whom, of course, was acquitted for the 2008 murder of her nearly 3 year old daughter Caylee. They'd only searched IE history, not Firefox, which came to light post-acquittal.

My point is - one never knows what could be obtained. So best to be thorough.

I am laughing at the irony. I'm familiar with the reference.

 

[04009margaret]

Not completely consistent unless Reeva peed standing up and facing the door....

The hip bullet went through the elastic waistband on her shorts, never heard that before until i heard it on the radio by a forensic expert.

 

[minor4th]

Agree 100%.

"Vincent Tabak, the 33-year-old Dutch engineer, who admits manslaughter but denies murder, also carried out internet searches on the average sentences for manslaughter and for murder, it was claimed".

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/19/vincent-tabak-joanna-yeates-death

Stuart Hazell searched for young girls in glasses matching his step-granddaughter's description on sites, and Mark Bridger who abducted and murdered 4-year-old April Jones had also searched for very young girls. Point is that web history can give various clues as to what's going on in someone's mind, so why anyone would consider it irrelevant is a mystery, particularly when a young woman has been shot to death and the defendant's explanation has so many holes in it.

This is a great example of "consciousness of guilt" after the fact, and before the crime was discovered.

 

[minor4th]

The most interesting thing about this is that the site was visited shortly after OP got home that evening while RS was there, makes one wonder just when they had their quiet dinner. Other than that, nothing to see imo.

Could be they were watching together on the ipad while having dinner.

 

[canny]

Not only was there no real intruder, there is no wall on the right side to hide behind. The toilet cubicle is too small for anyone to hide anywhere, not to mention that the toilet window is too small to jump out of.

Oscar claims to have shouted to the intruder to get out of his home, the only option left to this fictitious intruder would have been

Jump out of the toilet window..its too small Next...
Surrender to Oscar open the toilet door, plead with Oscar for forgiveness and then jump out of the bathroom window.:scared:

It does look like a solid wall on the right side of the toilet. Had Reeva hid in this corner standing upright the angle would have made it impossible for OP to hit her with even one bullet.

 

[04009margaret]

Shot standing in front of the door, in the hip, with the pause after that shot, the judge is being asked to accept:

Reeva stumbled back towards the toilet and mag rack in complete silence.

OP - unable to see his target at all - managed to hit her in the hip first

Then get another direct hit right to her head (that Reeva was coincidentally protecting) when she had completely changed her position in the room, as well as the height she was at.

Either he is the unluckiest person in the world, or he could see her, I think.

Totally agree, stalked

 

[Val1]

Could be they were watching together on the ipad while having dinner.

Anything is possible but it seems rather odd to me since they had just got in the door less than 30 minutes previously, heck, RS arrived at the gates at 6 and apparently OP was about 10 minutes later I believe the reports said. So with her just back from doing laundry/errands/buying him his Valentine gift and him just back from some party they immediately log in for some ?

 

[MeeBee]

Anything is possible but it seems rather odd to me since they had just got in the door less than 30 minutes previously, heck, RS arrived at the gates at 6 and apparently OP was about 10 minutes later I believe the reports said. So with her just back from doing laundry/errands/buying him his Valentine gift and him just back from some party they immediately log in for some ?

On an iPad, no less? How can you enjoy together on such a small device?

 

[Val1]

On an iPad, no less? How can you enjoy together on such a small device?

Personally that's not my thing anyway so the smaller the better? lol.... anyway, it's almost 5am here, time for sleep! Have a great weekend everyone, see you all Monday.

 

[04009margaret]

When OP testifies we will only get audio via radio, no visuals as OP & his legal team will vigorously object to visuals.

 

[james83]

So from what we know, Reeva arrived at the complex around 6pm with Oscar following shortly after.
Around 6.30pm is viewed on an ipad, that's definitely not normal, literally all i can think is Oscar viewed this on his own unknown to Reeva, you know how allegedly ejaculating a few hours before you plan on having sex makes you last longer, maybe that's what he was thinking.
Lol that's all i got.

 

[kaos]

When OP testifies we will only get audio via radio, no visuals as OP & his legal team will vigorously object to visuals.

Maybe just as well. Don't think I can bear watching him vomit over and over.

Does ipecac work all day or just for a little while?

 

[kittychi]

Could be they were watching together on the ipad while having dinner.

You are such a romantic thinker, Minor4th! :floorlaugh:

 

[soozieqtips]

This is a great example of "consciousness of guilt" after the fact, and before the crime was discovered.

Tabak had been looking at strangulation before he strangled Joanna Yeates. Both Hazel and Bridger had searched the internet for child before they committed the crimes. In Tabak's case, he was not only 'researching' his crime before he committed it, but was also trying to find a get-out clause after the crime.

 

[soozieqtips]

When OP testifies we will only get audio via radio, no visuals as OP & his legal team will vigorously object to visuals.

I can do without audio of his vomiting.

 

[*Indigo*]

what does the evidence that the 2 ipads had the same information on them mean?
I'm confused :waitasec:

 

[*Indigo*]

maybe 2 ipads in synch means it was definitely op using them.

 

[*Indigo*]

cars and ... significant obviously otherwise this wouldn't have been presented as evidence by the prosecution, just how is it significant though i wonder??
What can be inferred by op looking at these websites that add weight to the prosecutions case i wonder??

 

[Cherwell]

Anything is possible but it seems rather odd to me since they had just got in the door less than 30 minutes previously, heck, RS arrived at the gates at 6 and apparently OP was about 10 minutes later I believe the reports said. So with her just back from doing laundry/errands/buying him his Valentine gift and him just back from some party they immediately log in for some ?

Did somebody let her in? Housekeeper, gardener?
Or did OP give her a key?
Or did she have to hang around outside waiting for him?

 

[soozieqtips]

"Captain Mangena’s account of events are in agreement with the pathologist who performed Ms Steenkamp’s post mortem examination - that she would almost certainly have screamed after sustaining the first non-fatal wounds,
yet Pistorius carried on shooting"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-shot-through-locked-toilet-door-9201601.html

Looks like Roux's theory that Reeva could not possibly have screamed has just been truly debunked. The head shot was not the first shot, like he kept insisting it was. Therefore, he must contend that all the witnesses who heard screaming after the shots were not mistaken at all, but were hearing Reeva screaming because she'd been shot - and OP knew exactly who he was shooting at.