Trial Discussion Thread #20 - 14.04.08, Day 18

[zwiebel]

O: Whilst I was on the phone, Reeva got out of bed and did yoga on the floor....she would stretch and give me a kiss. We chatted for about half an hour. Reeva got up and went to the bathroom and called me to come brush my teeth and she went back to bed.

 

[soozieqtips]

Did anyone catch OP just say "I put my firearm n... under the bed"?

Sounded like he corrected himself from saying 'next' to the bed.

 

[04009margaret]

RL]

Thanks for that .. have bookmarked it for future ref, just in case!

http://www.enca.com/oscartrial/

Very rarely have problems with this link

 

[Carol70]

So the fans weren't even out on the balcony. Only one leg of the large fan was on the balcony. The other two legs of the large fan were in the bedroom. The small fan was underneath the large fan, so OP wouldn't have needed to go out onto the balcony to bring them in.

In his BH affidavit:

I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in...

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/02/19/copy-of-oscar-pistorius-affidavit-click-to-read/

Not necessarily, we have a standing fan, we generally carry it from behind especially if its on,(the fan facing away from you) so he would have been totally on the balcony to pick it up and move it inside..if he also carries his like this of course.

 

[jay-jay]

Some of the evidence he is giving now, about how they spent their evening, may just be how they had spent other evenings (laying with his head on her stomach, etc) but he is intertwining it with the evening of the 13th to make it sound more believable. This all sounds way too detailed/rehearsed to me for it to have been what they actually did on that final evening together.

 

[zwiebel]

Says when he got back to bed Reeva was laying in the middle and he climbed onto the left side. It wasn't usual 'but because of my shoulder injury'.

O: It wasn't long after that I started to fall asleep. Reeva was sitting up, I was laying with my head on her stomach. Every so often she would show me a photo of something or other. I was increasingly tired...I asked if she'd lock up if I fell asleep.

 

[G.bng]

What if she sneaked downstairs around 12 for a quick bite because she was hungry for real food? without him knowing about it because he was asleep?

Yeah ?! Did I make any conclusion other than that IMO it seems she ate later than 8:00 ?!

 

[Interested Bystander]

What if she sneaked downstairs around 12 for a quick bite because she was hungry for real food? without him knowing about it because he was asleep?

Note Nel didn't ask what they ate?

I think if she did, she had to move the cricket bat, unlock the door, open and close it and lock it again. I would have thought he would hear her moving about so much.

 

[Really?]

Liar?.......no plans for the 14th.....right. Liar

 

[zwiebel]

He is explaining that 'I brought her a bracelet earlier in the year' and hadn't bought her anything for Valentines but was going to get her some trinkets for it. They both 'agreed not to make a big thing about it'.

 

[jay-jay]

Did anyone catch OP just say "I put my firearm n... under the bed"?

Sounded like he corrected himself from saying 'next' to the bed.

Yep, I heard that, too .. he was being waay too precise about it too, if he had nothing to hide then he wouldn't be going into so much detail.

 

[zwiebel]

Explaining how Reeva bought him something and he made to go open it but Reeva said he wasn't allowed to open it...it was a photo frame, with four photos of her and I....(breaks down)

He opened it on Reeva's birthday last year.

 

[wb180]

Liar?.......no plans for the 14th.....right. Liar

Seems to contradict all the lovey dovey whatsapp messages but I guess this is a minor point.

 

[Interested Bystander]

So new evidence he asked Reeva to take the fans in and close and lock the doors. Really!! So how come he originally said he brought the fans in, closed the blinds, curtains etc. He has really run into trouble now BUT I can see he is going to say Reeva did not close the doors and he had to get up and close them.

 

[zwiebel]

He took his vest (tank) off and put it across his legs before sleeping.

Roux wants 5 mins to show OP without legs?? Uh??

 

[BritsKate]

He also kinda blamed her in a way. He was drifting off to sleep so he asked Reeva to make certain the fans were brought in and doors closed before she went to sleep as well.

 

[MeeBee]

He's going to take his legs off.

 

[zwiebel]

OP recalls exactly where he placed the drink Reeva made him that night, and the order of who went to the loo, where and when, and the position they laid in. That's amazing.

He can't recall what the drink was though. Still freaky recall though.

 

[atthelake]

So new evidence he asked Reeva to take the fans in and close and lock the doors. Really!!

Hmmmm. Kinda laying blame on her up front for not doing such and...the results?

 

[MsY]

Yeah ?! Did I make any conclusion other than that IMO it seems she ate later than 8:00 ?!

Just throwing it out there. All speculation.