Trial Discussion Thread #27 - 14.04.16, Day 24

[Murphys_Law]

Omg ..Dixon just suggested that the DT hired experts sampled single sounds then copied the samples to create a sequence of sounds.

Implications:
Period of time between sounds could be constructed
Volume could be adjusted

 

[zwiebel]

N: First three shots we heard were the bat - you holding it at shoulder height?

D provides measurments of , Nel queries if it was actually 60m. Seems to know something.

By the way, are they meaning to say cm when they say m? I'm as lost as the witness now....

 

[BritsKate]

I see you've entered the twilight zone with me. I'm in good company.

I pitched a tent a couple of weeks ago. Add to that the double taps becoming quick succession; pitch dark being lit by a light on the stereo; Reeva not going downstairs while Oscar was sleeping but poofing herself to the bathroom just feet away while he was awake and the duvet on the bed covering her legs that police moved but couldn't have because the jeans Oscar dropped are on the duvet.

Yet some posters doubt the State's version because it changed from the bail hearing held just days after the murder. I've never seen a defence do so many 180s literally mid-trial though. It defies all logic! Well, at least all of my logic.




Please pardon errors as posted via Tapatalk with a less than stellar user.

 

[jay-jay]

Well, if the recording of OP screaming like a woman is going to be anything like this ... :floorlaugh:

 

[shane13]

What?
Nel says: ‘The court does not know, when the test was done, how the door was hit, what was the material of the door, how the equipment was used… You think that (information) was enough to say to the court: “Accept my evidence”?
Dixon says he identified gunshots, yet he wasn’t present when they were fired. Oh.

I missed yesterday’s Dixon testimony, but I cannot believe they played a sound in court and did not have reports or relay all the details.

I’ve spent enough time in sound recording suites - everything is important, the equipment, the set-up and distances. Also…you can do anything, I mean anything in post-production with sound.

Thank you.
This is what I meant above.

Via the settings of a device, one can doctor the sound waves very readilly.

 

[Freya1977]

Omg ..Dixon just implied that the DT hired experts sampled single sounds then copied the samples to create a sequence of sounds.

UN freaking believable

 

[MsY]

Think its safe to state I'm a little embarrassed being South African atm.

 

[zwiebel]

How can he hit a door with a bat from 60m? WTH??

 

[Freya1977]

N: First three shots we heard were the bat - you holding it at shoulder height?

D provides measurments of , Nel queries if it was actually 60m. Seems to know something.

By the way, are they meaning to say cm when they say m? I'm as lost as the witness now....

No they mean they had the microphone 60 and 180 metres away

 

[zwiebel]

Roux is sure 'we can put it on a memory stick and give it to the state,'.

Whatever 'it' is.

 

[zwiebel]

No they mean they had the microphone 60 and 180 metres away

Oh, thank heavens for that. Thought I had gone crazy.....

 

[jay-jay]

Omg ..Dixon just suggested that the DT hired experts sampled single sounds then copied the samples to create a sequence of sounds.

.. wow .. really?? .. that's just so wrong! I'm presuming that's because the gun kept jamming and couldn't do the rapid shot thing, so he is actually suggesting they recorded them separately then spliced them together?

 

[Freya1977]

Oh, thank heavens for that. Thought I had gone crazy.....

Haha you could be forgiven, sitting through this testimony!

 

[Really?]

If I say I love mr. Nel........what does that imply?

:floorlaugh:

 

[G.bng]

Think its safe to state I'm a little embarrassed being South African atm.

No problem. Seen similar and worse twice in US trials and probably would be the same here in the UK but we don't televise trials so you have to be public in court to see it.

 

[Carol70]

Think its safe to state I'm a little embarrassed being South African atm.

Lol, Im also just..ummm... wow...just effing wow!! :facepalm:
Could explain why 85% of our bloody criminals are walking the streets.

 

[zwiebel]

N: REcording of second visit to shooting range - was that ever played to you?

D: To the best of my memory...

N: You can't say to the best of my memory. You're an expert witness.

Witness now trying to remember where. High court chambers with Roux and counsel, and noone else.

 

[Onlyamum]

Wondering whether he used the bat like a cricketer to replicate the quick noises as it wasn't possible to do it as fast if he held the bat upwards

ie. the way Oscar struck the door was not the way a cricketer would hold the bat and it was held upwards and the time between strikes would be longer? so the only way to fit the quick strikes in the defence position is to hold the bat down ?

I know what I mean anyway lol

 

[zwiebel]

N: Did they explain to you how that (recording) came about, how it was made....who fired the shots the second time?

D: I have no knowledge of that milady.

 

[Forensics]

It seems very unprofessional to conduct the tests on two separate occasions...the recordings would need to have been done under identical conditions.....impossible to achieve in an open range with recording equipment....placement, levels, ambient noise etc.etc.