Trial Discussion Thread #27 - 14.04.16, Day 24

[G.bng]

OK I can't get any feed to work!

I'm watching the youtube one now because my beloved channel 4 has gone down since I recommended to everyone, try this:

.youtube.com/watch?v=TvA32TBcCt0

just add the www

 

[zwiebel]

Nel now asking for his notes back 'that I handed to you, before I forget', as though he does not trust witness not to run off with his notes??

 

[Freya1977]

Nel says in post lividity, bruises get more obvious.

D says he is sure he can see something in the photo he used and it is not just a change of light.

Nel stresses 'You were not at the post mortem.'

And seeing he isn't even a medical doctor I don't know what difference it would have made!

 

[zwiebel]

I'm listening to the radio feed that Zwiebel provided. It might be handy for when your live video feed goes down...

http://whoopwhoop.tv/pistoriusradio.htm

I am sticking with just that audio as I've had no luck with pic feeds today.

 

[patCee]

Dixon gets out notes that were folded and stuffed in his pocket, to hand to Nel. No decorum here.

 

[zwiebel]

D reading about buttock bruise now. Not sure if that his from his report or....

No, it's from Prof Saayman's report, I think.

Nel: You'll be surprised...open that....I want that put on record! You opened the doc and said What!

 

[Murphys_Law]

I can't give you evidence of this but I have often had a feeling that the hip shot was during the first set of bangs and that the second set were to finish her off .
Outlandish opinion I know but I do just see this as possible
Maybe the blood on the floor disproves this because there should have been more blood unless of course she first fell partly on to the toilet (some blood could have gone down inside the pan and then slipped off after the ricocheted shot to avoid being hit again . I know it doesn't totally add up but neither does OP's version
J MOO

I think it is a strong possibility that she WAS hit before the last 4 shots ... whether it was with the parabellum or the air rifle or both. If she was hit with the parabellum in the first round of shots, then I am guessing it might have been in the arm and downstairs close to the pillar, where there is a considerable amount of blood. Speculating further, I say the arm because the arm wound is Said to be "near amputation like". Could that sort of wound be caused by a single shot? I do not know.

Without viewing all of the post mortem photos, the autopsy report, and hearing Dr. Saaymen's testimony, and the full ballistics and blood spatter reports (which we are not privy to) it is pure speculation at this point.

That said, from the few post mortem photos of the wounds, I am absolutely convinced that some of the smaller wounds that we have seen of her back, are air rifle pellet wounds. You can have my first born if I am wrong on that

 

[zwiebel]

N: There he describes it. He describes the wound. And. You. Missed. It.

 

[BritsKate]

I'm just waiting for:
'It was not my intention to say that. I apologise if I said that milady. I made a mistake.'

 

[james83]

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 7m
#OscarTrial so the three pathologists - Saayman, Perumal and Botha - did not see this bruise, Dixon, the geologist, did. BB

 

[zwiebel]

D: I interpret that as being inside the wound....

N: But YOU missed it.

 

[james83]

I'm just waiting for:
'It was not my intention to say that. I apologise if I said that milady. I made a mistake.'

"I didn't have time to think"

 

[aoibhinn]

Expert witness says, "In my layman's understanding ... ". Eh?

 

[kaos]

I'm watching the youtube one now because my beloved channel 4 has gone down since I recommended to everyone, try this:

.youtube.com/watch?v=TvA32TBcCt0

just add the www

Thanks for this one. Might just be me but the sound and picture on the youtube one seem a lot clearer than the others.

 

[G.bng]

In his layman's interpretation ???!!! Isn't he there as an EXpert !

 

[zwiebel]

D: In my layman's understanding, if the bullet had broken into little pieces and come to the surface, caused a large mark.....

Nel calling him 'irresponsible.' Asks him why he would come to high court and 'not even read the document'.

 

[BritsKate]

Why would you not read the full report if you were coming to court to testify about it?

*crickets*

 

[Freya1977]

Expert witness says, "In my layman's understanding ... ". Eh?

And that sums it up. He shouldn't even be commenting on wounds!

 

[zwiebel]

N: You see the danger?...You read thru (now) and get an answer? Why did you not read thru it before?

D: I received this report last year. I did read it.

Then Nel wants to know why he did not mention this part then? Calls him irresponsible again.

This is really ouch. Painful to listen to.

 

[shane13]

Great post.

I wanted to post on this too, but could have never put it quite so well.

Thanks

Thank you kindly, Really?