Trial Discussion Thread #33 - 14.05.05 Day 26

[Jim Kirk]

Rising tone at the end of sentences is SO annoying. Let me know when she's out of the stand please.

 

[zwiebel]

And another supplementary statement later at police station. To Cpt Von Aart?

 

[Freya1977]

She sounds exactly like Samantha Taylor to me - I find their voices annoying.

Oh you read my mind. Every sentence ends with the voice going up....

 

[supernovaNic]

I wish they'd at least put up a photo. Nothing when you search Carice Sander on google for photo.

eta: Oops... well there is a pretty blonde girl with her name.

 

[zwiebel]

Showing the same photo of Standers house as before. Her bedroom, with door onto balcony.

 

[Trooper]

taking you back. Roux leading.

SHe is a legal advisor at some social services dept.


She met Oscar when they moved in.. they had coffee now and then.


Roux. consequently.. did you make an affidavit?? a lady police woman, blonde.

yes.

Carise.. also a supplementary affidavit. I was willing to do this.. I did this in the presence of an advocate.. the advocate made notes, Capt Van ARnt asked the questions.

Pics.. Identification of the situation of the households. Carises balcony etc.. in relation toOscar house. before all the other buildings took place/

 

[Jim Kirk]

I wish they'd at least put up a photo. Nothing when you search Carice Sander on google for photo.

Why would that be necessary or relevant?

 

[Freya1977]

I wish they'd at least put up a photo. Nothing when you search Carice Sander on google for photo.

That's the whole point

 

[shane13]

I guess not then - no words of "embellish" or anything like that will be applied to Stander

Obiously Nel caught him well in embellishing.

 

[zwiebel]

She went to bed at 8.30-9pm that night. She was woken up by her dogs barking, who sleep in her bed...

And Roux forgot to ask for no cameras....Wonder if anyone's broadcast a pic?

 

[canny]

She sounds exactly like Samantha Taylor to me - I find their voices annoying.

Relax unlike ST she is testifying on behalf of the defense hence her testimony will be music to your ears

 

[Cher352]

Roux interrupts to explain, no visional images of this witness by agreement.

Are they reading here?

 

[Cher352]

My gosh she is talking fast now!

 

[zwiebel]

CS: Just as I was about to get out of bed, I heard someone shout, 'help, help, help!'

She dropped her blinds to look thru window but couldn't see where noise was coming from. Went back to bed, heart pounding. Dogs kept on barking 'Didn't want to calm down'.

She's gabbling now. Too fast.

 

[Trooper]

pointing out the houses and their locations, re the route standar took that morning.

Roux. can you remember what time you went to bed??

Car.. about 9pm.... normal. I ( carise doesn't want to be televised) went to sleep.. that morning, I woke up my dogs were barking.. I could hear other dogs barking in the neighbourhood. my sliding door was open.. it was rather hot.. I was lying in my bed.. I had to get up to close my sliding door, in case my dog ran out and barked outside.

I heard a person shouting help HELP HELP.. I thought. something is wrong, the dogs will bark more. I need to get up.. I need to close my sliding door.. I stood up and went to my doors. a closed them. I was asking where is this sound coming from?

( carise is a tremendous story teller. tis all detail and emotion and peripheral dogs and oh my gosh I don't know what to do, the dogs keep barking. )

 

[Jim Kirk]

Roux interrupts to explain, no visional images of this witness by agreement.

Are they reading here?

If they are, please offer her vocal coaching on my behalf and expense.

 

[katydid23]

so she sleeps with her sliding doors and curtains wide open?

 

[Trooper]

I cant keep up with carise. its oh my gosh where is this sound coming from, I got up , I got back into bed, I felt hot, I threw off my blanket, I put it back on, the dogs the dogs. ) .

 

[zwiebel]

Roux's stopped her. Teatime.

Basically, she heard got up because her dogs were going crazy, heard shouts, so locked her balcony doors and jumped back into bed with the covers over her head, scared stiff, I think.

 

[wb180]

Obiously Nel caught him well in embellishing.

I don't know about that but I just find it interesting on the inconsistency of application of the words such as "embellish" on witnesses who 'supposedly' have decided on whether OP is guilty.

And if we want to compare PT witness vs Stander, Stander own testimony shows he doesn't think OP is guilty as he himself said OP did it accidentally.

On the other hand PT witness didn't really give any opinion on OP (but rather just sticking to their facts of what they heard) and yet they are 'embellishing'

Interesting isn't it!