Trial Discussion Thread #36 - 14.05.09 Day 29

[JudgeJudi]

Photo being shown of the toilet lid and tissue. OP's covering his eyes and blocking his ears.
W says it's a possibility that the tissue is from her arm.

 

[ColonelMustard]

Things have calmed down considerably. The pace has slowed way down.

 

[zwiebel]

Well, now I don't feel so sad now. Witness was quite patronizing then about how the blood could have got by the toilet while Reeva was standing: "I didn't say it would milady - I said it was POSSIBLE."

 

[kaos]

Oh my my my.... I just might have to listen to some of it tomorrow. lol

He really was the star witness amongst all of the experts.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Nel: " so then the accused must be WRONG".... [ about the placement of the magazine rack]

Poor Woolie was stunned by that....

OP will say he's lying.

 

[Carmelita]

Looks like I left my computer on all night :/

Anyhow I will answer a few questions posed to me from the other thread and then I am off for the day.
I don’t think we can say that we need video proof that Kim is a liar to reasonably be able to question the validity of her claim. I don’t know if Oscar said anything, I don’t know if he did say something he was not talking to himself. I think regardless of what happened if Oscar leaned in toward her Kim would have had a visceral reaction, she by all accounts believes Oscar hunted down Reeva.

Hi Lithow1, as to my defense of Oscar’s mistaken intruder story possibly being true it is not based in emotion but in the evidence presented and in Oscar’s consistently sticking to his story in spite of the extreme tactics used by Nel and Oscar’s obvious emotional immaturity. It is also much more natural to have an emotional response of support for the victim so it would be unusual to be basing my conclusions on emotion in this case in favor of the living breathing, handsome millionaire, who shot his girlfriend to death as opposed to Reeva whose life was cut short at Oscar’s hand.

And I was asked this

Just a quick question if I may - do you believe, based on what you've read or heard, that OP said something to her? Doesn't matter what, just that he leaned in and appeared to say something that caused her to react? Thanks.

I don’t know. I think Oscar has been vilified to the point that his every movement and word is scrutinized to the tenth degree and that people find guilt and fault in almost everything he does and says.


And I am running late, have a good day folks.

 

[ColonelMustard]

Nel having a consultation and witness asks to be seated.

Judge says a few times 'You have forgotten your jacket'.

He doesn't hear. Misunderstands completely.

This is sad. This man's not well.

All of that - and - I don't think he heard her.

 

[zwiebel]

W: ...I don't know where the mag rack was...but there is a possibility it was shifted...

N: What part of the rack caused those back wounds?

W: I'm not sure, but those wood fragments found on the floor are not consistent with the wounds on her back.

 

[katydid23]

When they show Mylady and the 2 assessors to her left + right, it is quite impressive. I kind of like this SA system as far as having real qualified "judges" deciding the case rather than 12 people off the street.

I wish Casey Anthony had to stand before those three and tell them her fairy tale. I think she would have ended up in :jail:

 

[zwiebel]

Photo showing one side of the core of a bullet retrieved from toilet.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Why is OP blocking his ears and not looking ? He's hating Wollie and so it's hear no evil, see no evil.

 

[jay-jay]

Love that shot with Mangena bottom left, Nel in the middle an O P top right...

Yes, good wasn't it .. that was really giving away what each of them were thinking ..!

 

[zwiebel]

The serial number is clear on the bullet core, W points out.

They are faffing with photos now.

 

[zwiebel]

Showing photo of the secondary wounds on Reeva's back.

 

[kaos]

Out of all the assorted adjournments they've had this guy is the one who deserves a little break. I love listening to Nel but even I had to go and get a cuppa during Woolie's testimony!

 

[Trooper]

Looks like I left my computer on all night :/

Anyhow I will answer a few questions posed to me from the other thread and then I am off for the day.
I don’t think we can say that we need video proof that Kim is a liar to reasonably be able to question the validity of her claim. I don’t know if Oscar said anything, I don’t know if he did say something he was not talking to himself. I think regardless of what happened if Oscar leaned in toward her Kim would have had a visceral reaction, she by all accounts believes Oscar hunted down Reeva.

Hi Lithow1, as to my defense of Oscar’s mistaken intruder story possibly being true it is not based in emotion but in the evidence presented and in Oscar’s consistently sticking to his story in spite of the extreme tactics used by Nel and Oscar’s obvious emotional immaturity. It is also much more natural to have an emotional response of support for the victim so it would be unusual to be basing my conclusions on emotion in this case in favor of the living breathing, handsome millionaire, who shot his girlfriend to death as opposed to Reeva whose life was cut short at Oscar’s hand.

And I was asked this

Just a quick question if I may - do you believe, based on what you've read or heard, that OP said something to her? Doesn't matter what, just that he leaned in and appeared to say something that caused her to react? Thanks.

I don’t know. I think Oscar has been vilified to the point that his every movement and word is scrutinized to the tenth degree and that people find guilt and fault in almost everything he does and says.


And I am running late, have a good day folks.

:ufo:

 

[zwiebel]

Nel is trying to get bullet fragment and wound pics on screen together.

Nel talking about striations on wound and says they are exact replica of striations on bullet core, right hand edge.

W: I disagree totally.

 

[ColonelMustard]

Nel: First listen to what I'm saying then you can motivate as much as you want to.

 

[zwiebel]

It is a little serrated edge on the edge of one wound..

I can't see the corresponding edge on the bullet core either though....

 

[zoran]

they dont looks the same to me from that angle