Trial Discussion Thread #38 - 14.05.13 Day 31
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V: It's not an uncommon disorder...
N: But to raise it to the level of a disorder, it would have to be more than common?
V explains symptoms:
Nausea, stomach upsets, distractibility etc, but people with a disorder have them constantly.
N: But to raise it to the level of a disorder, it would have to be more than common?
V explains symptoms:
Nausea, stomach upsets, distractibility etc, but people with a disorder have them constantly.
Man!
Just found one on Channel 4 about 5 minutes ago! I see you did find one, zwiebel!
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Voster still on the stand.... Nel x-Examine
nel asks her for her report.. she doesn't have them in front of her. she has a copy..
nel will go with the copy.. '
nel. the diagnosis.. GAD that is a diagnosis that spans functioning in general??
yes
Nel. one of the criteria.. there would be an impairment of functioning?
Vos. this is why its called a disorder.. ..
Nel. the fact that one of anxiousness in ones social life, or in sport. lots of people experience this.. ??
Vos. yes. its not uncommon.. .
Nel. but to raise it to the level of disorder... ??
Vos. to raise it to the level of disorder, one has to have anxiety more often than not, fr an extended period of time.. the issues about what one is anxious are out of proportion.. more serious than they actually are.. the reaction to this, is varied. nausea, diahhroea, sweating, irritability, sleeplessness.. an ongoing thing and a whole host of side effects..
people with anxiety disorder are unable to set their worries aside.. they have it MORE often than not....
nel. would there be levels of GAD?? lesser?? More?
Vos. with every disorder, there are levels of severity.. with any diagnosis, it can be mlld or severe..
Nel. it its impact is severe.. could it be seen as a mental illness??
Vos.. a long pause) ... I .. I really cant say it does it may impact on ones capacity to live a normal life.. one has to look at the impact of the diagnosis on the individual. a person with a very severe disorder ,may be incapacitated from getting to work, no amount of time is enough, getting up earlier and \earilier to get to work . etc.
nel. in this particular instance, there is no evidence the accused was incapacitated to that extent?.
Vos. no. he was able to function as an athlete at a high level. he controlled his stress...
Nel. but you made your evidence yesterday, that his disorder, on his version, is relevant..
Vos. it may be relevant, its for the court to decide..
nel asks her for her report.. she doesn't have them in front of her. she has a copy..
nel will go with the copy.. '
nel. the diagnosis.. GAD that is a diagnosis that spans functioning in general??
yes
Nel. one of the criteria.. there would be an impairment of functioning?
Vos. this is why its called a disorder.. ..
Nel. the fact that one of anxiousness in ones social life, or in sport. lots of people experience this.. ??
Vos. yes. its not uncommon.. .
Nel. but to raise it to the level of disorder... ??
Vos. to raise it to the level of disorder, one has to have anxiety more often than not, fr an extended period of time.. the issues about what one is anxious are out of proportion.. more serious than they actually are.. the reaction to this, is varied. nausea, diahhroea, sweating, irritability, sleeplessness.. an ongoing thing and a whole host of side effects..
people with anxiety disorder are unable to set their worries aside.. they have it MORE often than not....
nel. would there be levels of GAD?? lesser?? More?
Vos. with every disorder, there are levels of severity.. with any diagnosis, it can be mlld or severe..
Nel. it its impact is severe.. could it be seen as a mental illness??
Vos.. a long pause) ... I .. I really cant say it does it may impact on ones capacity to live a normal life.. one has to look at the impact of the diagnosis on the individual. a person with a very severe disorder ,may be incapacitated from getting to work, no amount of time is enough, getting up earlier and \earilier to get to work . etc.
nel. in this particular instance, there is no evidence the accused was incapacitated to that extent?.
Vos. no. he was able to function as an athlete at a high level. he controlled his stress...
Nel. but you made your evidence yesterday, that his disorder, on his version, is relevant..
Vos. it may be relevant, its for the court to decide..
Everything that Dr V explains about GAD (and which I already know about because I get varying degrees of it .. panic attacks, phobias, anxiouness to the point I can't do certain things or can't do them without feeling physically sick) .. and I'm afraid I do not recognise OP in any of that .. no more than anybody else, anyway.
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It occurs to me that this woman may have "boned up" on her info overnight, especially if she got wind of the firestorm her testimony created.
Some with expertise in the field say that she's stating her opinions based on the former version, DMS-IV, rather than the current DMS-V.
Some with expertise in the field say that she's stating her opinions based on the former version, DMS-IV, rather than the current DMS-V.
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They're not hard to make, if you're interested in doing so. It's a lot like making bread - I make them with my kids a lot because I have a hard time finding them here too (every mall in America probably has a pretzel shop though!). I use course salt and either make my own cheese sauce to dip them in or sprinkle them with parmesan, garlic, basil and oregano and dip them in marinara. Cinnamon/sugar with a cream cheese dip has proven popular in my house too.
This is my favourite recipe (but the measurements are imperial so will need conversion): http://allrecipes.com/recipe/buttery-soft-pretzels/
This one is untried but in metric: http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/8229/soft-pretzels.aspx
**Sorry for the O/T everyone!**
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