Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

[Trooper]

because some pics wont be shown the numbering will be changed.

uh oh. the sequence is going to go upstairs.

 

[zwiebel]

Von: As you entered portal there were bloodstains and we thought they should have gone towards the wooden door but they did not.

 

[Trooper]

I just have audio...am not looking at these photos. Sorry, not up to it at the moment.

oh Zwi.


I'llhangon. we could take it in turns to hurl, I suppose..
:scared:

 

[zwiebel]

Photo 15. Close up of blood going upstairs. Photo 16 the same, with railing on right hand corner.

Photo 17 is This is the wall going up the stairs, on the left as you go up.

Witness says he can still remember the scene when asked. Without looking at the the photos.

 

[Trooper]

photo 17... I don't know how many there are altogether. If I give a number of the photo, its the number in the sequence that is shown in court.. not the number of the photos in the sequence they were taken because some have been removed not to beshown publicly. but not yet, I think .. this is so far IN sequence as taken.. soon that will change.

we are on the mezzanine, thing, the upstairs landing..

 

[zwiebel]

Up to photo number 22 now and it seems there is blood in all of them, all over the house! Sounds like total carnage. How horrible.

 

[zwiebel]

22 is a landing upstairs with a railing at the back.

 

[zwiebel]

23 is 'The wall on left hand side of sitting room...

In background there are trophies standing on a cabinet in that lounge, Von says, after Nel asks him about it.

 

[BritsKate]

We were precluded from hearing the pathologist's testimony on the claim (which the defence fully endorsed) that it interfered with the dignity of the deceased and could cause undue harm to the Steenkamp family (according to the defence)...

Yet...she was left on the floor by the accused with garbage bags covering her. :furious:

 

[zwiebel]

My opinion - OP bled out that poor woman's life blood carrying her around the house. No doubt she was going to die anyhow, but that surely did not help.

 

[Trooper]

more retching in the background


tried to open the bedroom door.. the door is locked.. ( ??) goes into the bathroom area

as you move in, there is a Jacuzzi.. needing repairs..

I locked the doors..

and wouldn't you know it.lunchtime


( head hits desk*

 

[graceholl]

Quick 15 min recap from @alexcrawfordsky

#OscarPistorius Court is shown entrance to the residence, exterior lights are on

#OscarPistorius Now entrance hall is shown to give everyone more of a sense of house's layout

#OscarPistorius We're being shown the sitting room and splatters of blood on the seat

#OscarPistorius Another picture shows close up of the blood on the seat..there're half a dozen spots

#OscarPistorius Now picture showing blood splatter on the wall

#OscarPistorius Now we see the stairs front on. There are splatters of blood on these too. (OP said he carried Steenkamp down them)

#OscarPistorius Van Rensburg is taking the court through photos showing the trail of blood he followed upstairs

#OscarPistorius Van Rensburg is showing more photos of splashes of blood along wall down stairs

#OscarPistorius Picture-trail now upstairs at top of landing getting closer to bathroom

https://twitter.com/AlexCrawfordSky

 

[zwiebel]

I so hope Reeva was not aware of any of that.

Court adjourned.

 

[Really?]

Wth?

OP locked his bedroom door after running up to it to do whatever ?

 

[21merc7]

I so hope Reeva was not aware of any of that.

Court adjourned.

I don't think she could have been. The head wound would have killed her instantly.

 

[BritsKate]

My opinion - OP bled out that poor woman's life blood carrying her around the house. No doubt she was going to die anyhow, but that surely did not help.

And that's part of my issue - he carries her all over - but ultimately decides to leave her on.the.floor?!?

I don't think I could leave someone I loved on the floor presuming I had the ability to carry them.

JMO

 

[zwiebel]

Concise summary in chronological order of photos at this twitter feed here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/barrybateman

 

[Trooper]

Wth?

OP locked his bedroom door after running up to it to do whatever ?

honestly, Really, that's what I heard him say.. I haven't got to grips with looking at any one elses transcript..

that has me so baffled and bewildered, I cant even take it IN.

was that what he did when he nipped upstairs when Dr Stipp was trying to revive Reeva?? lock his bedroom door??


god almighty.

 

[zwiebel]

And that's part of my issue - he carries her all over - but ultimately decides to leave her on.the.floor?!?

I don't think I could leave someone I loved on the floor presuming I had the ability to carry them.

JMO

I seem to recall from Michael Jackson's Doc's trial, you are supposed to put victim on the floor for CPR?

 

[zwiebel]

Whoopwhoop radio just mentioned where Von lapsed into English and translator translated from English....to English.