Trial - Ross Harris #2

[Maisiebelle]

I'm watching the sext buddy giving evidence. RH is falling asleep.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I know the chronology, thanks, i posted it and discussed it last night. He 'd been texting with Mrs X on and off since before he went into CFA, if not before that too. Cooper and escapes was about 9 minutes before the light. The "caught light" texts by RH had moved on to what I imagine was RH thinking below his belt, imo.

You may know the chronology but seem to be intent on posting inaccurate information. moo

No, he'd not 'moved on.'

He is still replying to the same post on Whisper in response to the meme seen in court shown here:

Ross first comments/replies as 'unknown' at 8:55:19am.
His last response is at 9:24:28am to this same post.

He pulls into the parking lot at 9:25:17am.

49 seconds after he replies "We both need that" to this comment by the unknown female "Maybe that's our issue too. I need a break from "love."

That comment was in reply to his "I love my son and all but we both need escapes."

Sad thing is, Cooper was too small to "escape" that scalding hot car.


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[Hope4More]

I haven't had a chance to listen to al of today's testimony.

Has there been testimony that Ross was actually "sexting" on the morning of and during the day that Cooper died? Or did we just have testimony that he was texting with these girls that he had exchanged naughty pictures with at some other time?

For purposes of determining guilt, I don't think it matters - I am just curious about how the state presented this and what actually happened.

Unremarked upon here is the portion of the State's direct with Ms Y( not the "escape" sexter, but another of the 6 he sexted with that day) during which he went through their entire text record, which was from June 3 through June 18.

Goring's focus was on who texted who first & what time of the day was. He definitely made the point that there were quite likely a number of times he texted Ms. Y when Cooper was in the car.

And about how Kilgore handled the witness. Rather gently, imo, and definitely for the purpose of illustrating -- she engages in this sexting stuff willingly, with more than one person , she's not a freak for doing that, neither is Ross.

 

[Hope4More]

You may know the chronology but seem to be intent on posting inaccurate information. moo

No, he'd not 'moved on.'

He is still replying to the same post on Whisper in response to the meme seen in court shown here:

Ross first comments/replies as 'unknown' at 8:55:19am.
His last response is at 9:24:28am to this same post.

He pulls into the parking lot at 9:25:17am.

49 seconds after he replies "We both need that" to this comment by the unknown female "Maybe that's our issue too. I need a break from "love."

That comment was in reply to his "I love my son and all but we both need escapes."

Sad thing is, Cooper was too small to "escape" that scalding hot car.


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I'm perfectly ok with disagreements over interpretations, but only when they are conducted agreeably. Enough said.

 

[katydid23]

Unremarked upon here is the portion of the State's direct with Ms Y( not the "escape" sexter, but another of the 6 he sexted with that day) during which he went through their entire text record, which was from June 3 through June 18.

Goring's focus was on who texted who first & what time of the day was. He definitely made the point that there were quite likely a number of times he texted Ms. X when Cooper was in the car.

And about how Kilgore handled the witness. Rather gently, imo, and definitely for the purpose of illustrating -- she engages in this sexting stuff willingly, with more than one person , she's not a freak for doing that, neither is Ross.

Wait....so he was sexting SIX WOMEN that day, and he is not a freak for doing that? I think he is a freak for doing that. He is married, he had his young son with him while sexting, and sexts while driving,, AND he was supposed to be working, and he was close to losing his job already---and yet he sexts 6 different random women, one under age. I call that a freak. :yes:

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I'm perfectly ok with disagreements over interpretations, but only when they are conducted agreeably. Enough said.

Disagreements over interpretations?

I'm posting facts from the trial record. With screenshots to prove what I've posted.

Not an interpretation or a narrative of what I think, wish or hope happened.

Enough said.


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[minor4th]

Watching the text/sext testimony now:

Kaitlyn Floyd: June 18 he texted her 5:49 a.m. Saying good morning, she texted back 10:20 a.m., he messaged back around 1:00 p.m. - then sex talk and pic, last message at 2:07 p.m.

(Will update with testimony from others)

 

[katydid23]

Watching the text/sext testimony now:

Kaitlyn Floyd: June 18 he texted her 5:49 a.m. Saying good morning, she texted back 10:20 a.m., he messaged back around 1:00 p.m. - then sex talk and pic, last message at 2:07 p.m.

(Will update with testimony from others)

Pay special attention to 'alwaysinmyfeelings.' They texted throughout the crucial time period---....

 

[minor4th]

Pay special attention to 'alwaysinmyfeelings.' They texted throughout the crucial time period---....

Yeah, those aren't sexts though. That's a complaint about his wife not letting him go out with buddies. What am I missing?

 

[Hope4More]

Yeah, those aren't sexts though. That's a complaint about his wife not letting him go out with buddies. What am I missing?

You're not missing anything. He didn't sext with her before he went to work.

 

[minor4th]

You're not missing anything. He didn't sext with her before he went to work.

Apparently he didn't sext with her at all. So far I believe we have only heard he was sexting with Kaitlyn between 1:00 - 1:30 on 6/18. I assume there will be others? Again, I don't really see how this is relevant at all to negligence and it falls way short of proving premeditation or malice murder. We shall see what else there is ..

 

[minor4th]

LOL @ the defense counsel breaking into a Google search on the State's computer/Mondo Pad in the middle of cross examination

 

[minor4th]

This judge is really not paying attention to the trial. Her whole attitude seems rather flippant for such a serious matter

 

[katydid23]

Yeah, those aren't sexts though. That's a complaint about his wife not letting him go out with buddies. What am I missing?

He had not gotten around to sending pix of his privates yet---but it was a flirtatious exchange. He contacted her because she seemed to be a bored, lonely housewife. That's why he messaged her.

While he was supposedly having 'father/son' breakfast time, he was texting random women in hopes of making new sexual contacts. And it is relevant because it is what he is focusing on when he is supposed to be driving to the daycare. His sexual fantasies got in his head and took over.

 

[Hope4More]

Apparently he didn't sext with her at all. So far I believe we have only heard he was sexting with Kaitlyn between 1:00 - 1:30 on 6/18. I assume there will be others? Again, I don't really see how this is relevant at all to negligence and it falls way short of proving premeditation or malice murder. We shall see what else there is ..

I agree with you that the State hasn't proven intent, but I think unless Dr. Diamond can persuade jurors about jumbled neurons (and maybe not even then), the State is succeeding in making a strong case for criminal negligence.

He clearly was completely preoccupied with his texting/sexting that entire morning, including, it would seem, as he waited for the light to change at the intersection where he was supposed to turn left for Cooper.

I think for Dr. Diamond to persuade he's going to have to testify that the degree and extent of RH's preoccupation had nothing at all to with his jumbled neurons that placed Cooper at daycare, and frankly, I think that would be a hard sell.

 

[Hope4More]

A sequence, in order, of some of RH searches beginning early June 17, mostly on Google:


Atlanta casual encounters classified, Craigslist

Passport fees

Why are hot and humid days hazy?

Most ludicrous softcore movies on Netflix

Miami connection

Where is Bonnoro?

Phillips Richards pressure cooker

Tied & mdash

Buck Johnson keyboards

Mayer Hawthorne, Wikipedia

Walmart Mobile

Are there giraffes in Ghana?

Why is it hazy when hot?

Sacred Flesh & mdash

The Bloody Judge & mdash

Buck Johnson
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I have a PhD in doing online non sequitur research, but I take my hat off to Ross for his superior talent. I wonder if he does have some kind of attention deficit disorder thing going on (as someone here suggested he might), because these searches sure seem randomly chosen and all over the place.

(Typing will have to do, haven't been able to post links or SS for weeks because I'm on my phone, & can't use my computer until I find my charger cord or say uncle and buy a new one).

 

[katydid23]

A sequence, in order, of some of RH searches beginning early June 17, mostly on Google:


Atlanta casual encounters classified, Craigslist

Passport fees

Why are hot and humid days hazy?

Most ludicrous softcore movies on Netflix

Miami connection

Where is Bonnoro?

Phillips Richards pressure cooker

Tied & mdash

Buck Johnson keyboards

Mayer Hawthorne, Wikipedia

Walmart Mobile

Are there giraffes in Ghana?

Why is it hazy when hot?

Sacred Flesh & mdash

The Bloody Judge & mdash

Buck Johnson
______________

I have a PhD in doing online non sequitur research, but I take my hat off to Ross for his superior talent. I wonder if he does have some kind of attention deficit disorder thing going on (as someone here suggested he might), because these searches sure seem randomly chosen and all over the place.

(Typing will have to do, haven't been able to post links or SS for weeks because I'm on my phone, & can't use my computer until I find my charger cord or say uncle and buy a new one).

He truly is scatter brained. Especially if you look at this disparate group of google searches, stacked on top of his ongoing conversations with his coworkers on IM<, and his wife most likely messaging him, and his various new friends he WHISPERS to, and he probably gets texts and emails on top of it all. How does he get any work done?

 

[Hope4More]

The night of June 17 (into the 18th), RH text flirted until 2:51AM.

Just under 3 hours later he was awake (if he slept at all) and texting again, beginning 5:43 AM.
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Times of all texts (apparently) sent by RH from 5:43 until he arrived at CFA :

(allow for human error, am typing/watching video on a phone, may have missed one text. Or even two. The " apparently " is due to the fact it looks like he either used 2 phones, or had a screen name sometimes and didn't at other times. Since i still don't even know what Whisper is except for speaking in a very low voice, I may have missed a concept here, but believe these times represent his texts).
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5:49, 5:50, 5:51 (break- MAYBE Cooper has woken up?),

7:22, 7:23, 7:25, 7:36, 7:37, 7:39, 7:41, 7:43, 7:49, 7: 50, 7:52, 7:54, 7:55, 7:57, 7:58, 7:59

(Around 37 minutes of nonstop texting. Let me guess- Leanna left for work around 7:15 or so?)

Break until 8:08 . Nine minutes in between texts. (Getting Cooper ready for school?)

Break until 8:16. Eight minutes in between texts. (Getting Cooper in the car?)

Break until 8:43. Twenty seven minutes between texts (driving time from home to CFA? )

8:45, 8:47, @ 8:48 tells whomever, " I'm not very single" (still en route?)

8:55 (perhaps in CFA parking lot, text to Mrs. X about missing going out with his friends, etc.)

39 minutes driving , if from 8:16 to 8:55. Texting peeps, but not calling daycare to say he would be late.

27 minutes driving, if from 8:16-- 8:43. If he arrived at CFA by 8:43 he still had plenty of time to call daycare to tell them he was running behind, but Cooper had eaten. He didn't always call, just as a fwiw).

 

[Hope4More]

Have no idea what if anything this means, but to the right of the text log (42:13, Lady Justice YouTube , day 9, part 6) is a little box with a heading of "Location," a time stamp of 9:22:42 AM, and at the bottom of the box under "category" it says iPhoneRecentsLog.

At that time RH was approximately 2 minutes away from the intersection.

 

[arkansasmimi]

We're on the same page.

I'm just going through the charming texts between RH and his many, many, sexting partners. Freezing and reading. He texts Leanna and others in between the sexting. How he managed to keep track of which conversation he's in is mind-boggling.

Woah!! Interesting exchange between him and Leanna on the 17th:

6/17/2014 4.27.55pm - Leanna (On screen as Lea..): Don't forget Cooper!
6/17/2014 4.41.49pm - Ross (On screen as Sp..): NEVER! Except that one time

Seriously? Only the day before? That is huge.

Catching up and have not went thru and read the text msg. So what is the context of those 2 texts? I see it was 4:27 LH texts that. She is who normally picked Cooper from LAA. Per testimony from teachers. Was this a reminder possibly that RH was to pick up Cooper that afternoon from LAA? Do you or we know? Serious question.

What we learned yesterday, on Cross was that Stoddard saw the Red pic message on Whisper and immediately assumed that RH had posted it. Since then it has been proven not so. Def is still up with RB Smith first thing this morning and I sure we will find out more of what was on the iPhone 5S << this was the iPhone that RH had in his pocket taken by Officer Piper when he was detained. <<<<< This is the one they are speaking of at the present

**There is a 2nd iPhone4S that was in his briefcase in the front floor bed of his SUV. Just reminder so we keep straight. Unsure what is on the 4S yet.