Trial - Ross Harris #2

[GA_Peach]

Honestly this makes me even madder at the prosecution. Not only is this unfairly prejudicial to Ross, as it really has nothing to do with Cooper's death - but it's dragging all these other people through the humiliation of a public broadcast about very personal matters. Their names will forever be link wth graphic sexual chats via Google search. This will screw up their career prospects, relationships, etc.

Yes, they did engage in this behavior voluntarily but my God the prosecution did not need to do this. This is all just a big mess to cover the fact that they didn't like Ross because he wasn't obedient when they told him to get off the phone and their subsequent smear job with so much false information designed to prejudice the public against Ross, not for killing his kid but for being a douche bag.

I strongly disagree with this having nothing to do with Cooper's death. Ross was sexting with these women as Cooper was slowly baking to death in Ross's vehicle. If Ross could have stopped thinking about his penis for a few moments to focus on his child, perhaps Cooper would still be alive. For those of us who believe Ross's distraction meets the standard for criminal negligence, the State must present the sexting evidence to establish his criminal negligence.

It's unfortunate for the witnesses, whose children were not killed as a result of their unsavory habits, that their personal lives need to be aired out for the entire world to see.

 

[DexterMorgan]

How did the recommunication start in 2014?, the defense asked. Swindell said she wasn’t sure.

The messaging begins again on May 29, 2014. They communicated mostly through Kik, a messaging app.

Swindell sent Harris some fully nude photos and some close ups of the genital area.

She testified she was interested in having a sexual encounter with Harris again and let him know so in the 2014 chats they had.

Swindell was living with her boyfriend off and on at the time.

She asked Harris if she could move in with him as a joke.

On June 15, 2014, they were talking about making plans for July.

Swindell testified she was keeping this information secret from her boyfriend. The next day, she sent Harris close ups of her genitals and told him she was having a “physiological reaction” in her private areas when she was thinking about the two of them.

She reached out to him on June 18 and said she wanted to have sex with him.

The defense said it was trying to establish Swindell’s credibility.

“You’re embarrassed about all of this aren’t you?,” he asked. Yes, she said.

“This isn’t really who you are is it,” he said. No, she replied.

The prosecution on redirect asked how old she was when they first started chatting. She was 18. Swindell said told her Harris was 26.

In May 2014, Harris never mentioned his wife or son to her.

She messaged him, and said “hi” He responded, “Hi sexy.”

She sent a picture of her hair and he said looks nice. He then texted “I haven’t seen you in so long.”

She sent a photo of her face. He responded, “cutie.”

“Want to see my new (penis) pics?,” Harris texted her. He sent two pictures of his penis.

The court is in recess for lunch.

http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...ross-harris-trial-oct/VIgTMAzvLgWN8frEpIaV0K/

Welp.

She was looking for a Sugar Daddy in Ross.

But he turned out to be the Hot Car Murder Daddy.

Jmo.

Now she told him that she had a boyfriend. But he is still scared to say he has a wife.

Hmmmm

Why not tell the truth since both of you are cheating on your spouses?

 

[catpatrol]

Maybe some parents can use this to get across to their young daughters how foolish it is to put this kind of stuff out there...You never know where it will lead and now they have to live with their unwise mistakes for the rest of their lives.

I'm disappointed in the amount of shaming going on with regard to these women. She was an adult having a private intimate conversation. She did nothing wrong.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Re: the "no AC" message from the defendant, was this in the home or car?




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[Maisiebelle]

If anyone sent me pictures of their manly bits I would be so offended. Maybe i'm a prude but I just don't understand it.

 

[Inthedetails]

Jeez.

These young girls make me want to weep. Huge self esteem issues going on with a girl who'll meet up to give pleasure to the man only. A dream for a like Harris.

That was my thought too....what did she get out of this? Doesn't sound exciting or fun at all.

 

[Nana46]

And how in the world he could sit there and look at everything and everybody around him while this nasty stuff is being shown to the world....has he no shame????

 

[lisette]

I'm disappointed in the amount of shaming going on with regard to these women. She was an adult having a private intimate conversation. She did nothing wrong.

I wasn't shaming the women. I was just saying that, if you don't want to take the chance of it being out there everywhere, then don't do it...and parents should stress to their daughters that this is a possibility. It, of course, is entirely up to them if they want to have these conversations. I chance to say that this young lady rues the day that she participated in this activity. Maybe not, but she did say that she was embarrassed. If they don't think anything is wrong with it, then by all means go ahead and take the chance of it not staying "private" but becoming very public. Young girls should be warned of this....

 

[catpatrol]

I wasn't shaming the women. I was just saying that, if you don't want to take the chance of it being out there everywhere, then don't do it...and parents should stress to their daughters that this is a possibility. It, of course, is entirely up to them if they want to have these conversations. I chance to say that this young lady rues the day that she participated in this activity. Maybe not, but she did say that she was embarrassed. If they don't think anything is wrong with it, then by all means go ahead and take the chance of it not staying "private" but becoming very public. Young girls should be warned of this....

And why should it be only girls/daughters that should be warned not to do this? That's shaming IMO. She was embarrassed because her intimate, private conversation is now being nationally broadcasted.

 

[Inthedetails]

I really am baffled by the fact that his wife needed to check up on him so much....just to make sure he was doing regular, everyday duties of a grown up. She texted him on the day of Cooper's death, "Get to work ok?"

What prompted that question?! I don't check up on my DH to make sure he got to work (unless the weather was bad, he was sick, etc). I assume he got to work because he's a grown up and people with jobs are expected to show up. If I asked my DH to send me photos of my child to make sure the child actually made it to daycare, he would think I was nuts.

And yet, even with all the prompts, Ross still doesn't manage to function as an adult. He basically texts and google searches his entire waking day, even when walking, driving, and at work. (I wonder if he texted during the actual sexual encounters he had with the women! Wouldn't surprise me at this point.)

What a yuck.

 

[GA_Peach]

Honestly this makes me even madder at the prosecution. Not only is this unfairly prejudicial to Ross, as it really has nothing to do with Cooper's death - but it's dragging all these other people through the humiliation of a public broadcast about very personal matters. Their names will forever be link wth graphic sexual chats via Google search. This will screw up their career prospects, relationships, etc.

Yes, they did engage in this behavior voluntarily but my God the prosecution did not need to do this. This is all just a big mess to cover the fact that they didn't like Ross because he wasn't obedient when they told him to get off the phone and their subsequent smear job with so much false information designed to prejudice the public against Ross, not for killing his kid but for being a douche bag.

Please help me understand your position on this matter. How do Ross's actions leading up to and during Cooper's death have "nothing to do with Cooper's death?" Would Ross's behavior be admissable (in your opinion) if it painted him a favorable light? How should the State be presenting its case in your opinion?

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I really am baffled by the fact that his wife needed to check up on him so much....just to make sure he was doing regular, everyday duties of a grown up. She texted him on the day of Cooper's death, "Get to work ok?"

What prompted that question?! I don't check up on my DH to make sure he got to work (unless the weather was bad, he was sick, etc). I assume he got to work because he's a grown up and people with jobs are expected to show up. If I asked my DH to send me photos of my child to make sure the child actually made it to daycare, he would think I was nuts.

And yet, even with all the prompts, Ross still doesn't manage to function as an adult. He basically texts and google searches his entire waking day, even when walking, driving, and at work. (I wonder if he texted during the actual sexual encounters he had with the women! Wouldn't surprise me at this point.)

What a yuck.

I wonder if it would have made a difference if she'd asked him if Cooper got to school ok.


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[lisette]

And why should it be only girls/daughters that should be warned not to do this? That's shaming IMO. She was embarrassed because her intimate, private conversation is now being nationally broadcasted.

Okay, you're right, I agree that young men should also be warned that this could possibly happen to them. No disagreement there...I guess just having a daughter made me look at it more from that angle. And my point was exactly made by you: She was embarrassed because her intimate, private conversation is now being nationally broadcasted. For some, that would not matter, and I am not condemning them for their choices. In fact, I am not condemning anybody...I am just saying that, if you do it, there is a potential of it being exposed, and young people need to be aware of that. If they don't care now, they may find that in the future, they do. I am not trying to shame these women...I feel for them that this has all be broadcast for all to see. JMO

 

[catpatrol]

I really am baffled by the fact that his wife needed to check up on him so much....just to make sure he was doing regular, everyday duties of a grown up. She texted him on the day of Cooper's death, "Get to work ok?"

What prompted that question?! I don't check up on my DH to make sure he got to work (unless the weather was bad, he was sick, etc). I assume he got to work because he's a grown up and people with jobs are expected to show up. If I asked my DH to send me photos of my child to make sure the child actually made it to daycare, he would think I was nuts.

And yet, even with all the prompts, Ross still doesn't manage to function as an adult. He basically texts and google searches his entire waking day, even when walking, driving, and at work. (I wonder if he texted during the actual sexual encounters he had with the women! Wouldn't surprise me at this point.)

What a yuck.

To me, all of the above leaves open the possibility that he really was irresponsible, incompetent, careless, negligent enough to forget Cooper. Moo. His wife barely trusted him to adequately take care of himself, let alone Cooper.

 

[magnolia]

If anyone sent me pictures of their manly bits I would be so offended. Maybe i'm a prude but I just don't understand it.

I don't understand the "show me yours" and "I'll show you mine". Sounds like little children playing doctor and nurse.

 

[rob]

My feeling is: if you do a crime and you stole a sucker when you were 5 years old, it should be ok to bring it up. God knows, all that sex talk in the Jodi Aries crime was brought up, over and over. All of this happened leading up to the death of C, I think it should be brought up.
How many times do we see trials and nothing is allowed to be said about the defendant because it 'may' be prejudicial ? I will judge the person as a whole. What if all we heard here is that he worked at HD, got turned down for a promo, loved Alabama football, his wife and child and played guitar at church? That really doesn't tell the story of who RH is or how he operated.
I also think that some of these ladies may not be as embarrassed as we think.
Just MOO

You don't want your business out there, keep it private. Does anyone think for one minute he didn't show these pics to some of his friends? I believe he would have.

 

[arkansasmimi]

The State on ReDirect to Witness Smith

Evans: If someone said an exchange at 10:46 a.m. was 8:46 would that be wrong? Def #65 (unsure what defense exhibit that is at moment)
Smith: yes they would be

re the image PCB post (another Def exhibit 63 iirc)
Evans: If someone said an exchange time of 9:49:01 a.m 6/18/14 was 8:49:01 a.m. would they be wrong?
Smith: yes they would be wrong.

I guess I missed what this was (had refresh screen) Anyone catch what this is in reference to? TIA

 

[MagicRose99]

My mama always said, don't do anything you'd be ashamed of... so if you sext someone, then you should expect that it may become public. If she's embarassed by it, perhaps she shouldn't have sexted to begin with.

 

[magnolia]

My feeling is: if you do a crime and you stole a sucker when you were 5 years old, it should be ok to bring it up. God knows, all that sex talk in the Jodi Aries crime was brought up, over and over. All of this happened leading up to the death of C, I think it should be brought up.
How many times do we see trials and nothing is allowed to be said about the defendant because it 'may' be prejudicial ? I will judge the person as a whole. What if all we heard here is that he worked at HD, got turned down for a promo, loved Alabama football, his wife and child and played guitar at church? That really doesn't tell the story of who RH is or how he operated.
I also think that some of these ladies may not be as embarrassed as we think.
Just MOO

You don't want your business out there, keep it private. Does anyone think for one minute he didn't show these pics to some of his friends? I believe he would have.

BBM -- I concur with that. I didn't see any embarrassment whatsoever. IMO

 

[human]

To me, all of the above leaves open the possibility that he really was irresponsible, incompetent, careless, negligent enough to forget Cooper. Moo. His wife barely trusted him to adequately take care of himself, let alone Cooper.

She may have wondered what he was up to. Suspicious of his other activities.