Trial - Ross Harris #3

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  • #841
Kilgore showed Stoddard a photo of Cooper that Harris took.

“But on that same gallery there is a picture of his exposed, erect penis … on the same page of his phone. It says ‘double life,’” Stoddard said.

“Are you done? Are you finished with your speech?” Kilgore says.

Taking Cooper to Chick-fil-A is a sign of a father wanting to spend time with his son, Kilgore said. Yes, Stoddard replied.

The restaurant manager “observed father and son appeared enjoying time together,” Kilgore said. Yes, Stoddard said.

The women Harris sexted and had affairs with also never heard Harris say bad things about Cooper.
 
  • #842
Is that really all the questioning the state has for Stoddard? After two years of investigation? Will there be more??
 
  • #843
Is that really all the questioning the state has for Stoddard? After two years of investigation? Will there be more??

Maybe on rebuttal.
 
  • #844
I honestly don't think anyone will buy that Ross loved Cooper as much as he loved himself. I know they defense s really trying for that, but I don't know if it's possible. I don't know that they can reverse the narrative Ross set himself up for. JMO
 
  • #845
June 11 photo of sleeping Cooper and photo of exposed erect penis in the same gallery on his phone.

What does this mean? Do most people keep the pictures on their phone separated by subject matter?
 
  • #846
. Defense says Harris did not delete inappropriate images or his chat applications on the day his son died. They were still there when police received the phone. Defense insinuates that if he had known police would have his phone, he would have deleted those things.
 
  • #847
You identified where the Whisper and Kik apps were on Harris’ phone

There’s no doubt Ross was running around on his wife,” There’s no question Ross didn’t want his wife to know about that,” Kilgore said.

Very true, Stoddard testified.

Hiding the apps would make sense in trying to prevent his wife from finding out, Kilgore said. “But Harris did not delete those apps on the day Cooper died.”

He also didn’t delete thousands of lurid photos and texts.

“He added to the filth on the 18th, didn’t he?” Kilgore said. “Yes, sir,” Stoddard replied.

Harris asked a woman on the day of Cooper’s death to perform fellatio on him. They had done so previously in his car.


http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...rris-murder-trial-oct/Dmo0qRDQuDAgfBiBSbsmiP/
 
  • #848
. Defense says Harris did not delete inappropriate images or his chat applications on the day his son died. They were still there when police received the phone. Defense insinuates that if he had known police would have his phone, he would have deleted those things.

But he didn't expect the police to take his phone. He expected to be believed and comforted.

(And my snarky reply would be that he's just too lazy to delete anything!)

jmo
 
  • #849
But he didn't expect the police to take his phone. He expected to be believed and comforted.

(And my snarky reply would be that he's just too lazy to delete anything!)

jmo

But he willingly gave them the passcode. That doesn't suggest that he was trying to hide the contents of his phone IMO
 
  • #850
:silly: and his password was their wedding anniversary date!

JMHO this all this stuff is showing by RH own words he has an addiction. He speaks of his wife and son, not hiding them in most all of the text/chats and so forth. The "Evernote" is a biblical ref. It has been stated (on threads) that he had gone to counseling prior. I will have to go back and look at the books that CSI Shumpert took pic of at their home. Will place that here to ref back later States Exhibit 203 View attachment 103574

I think Ross wanted his wife to leave and did not bother to really hide his infidelities. Didn't he say he's been caught before? He probably was hoping she would divorce him but she seems to be a total doormat enabler and just wouldn't leave.
 
  • #851
What does this mean? Do most people keep the pictures on their phone separated by subject matter?

It means absolutely nothing and I think it's obvious Stoddard is trying desperately to make a link where there is not one.

All of the photos on my phone are in the same "gallery" - it's called "My photos"
 
  • #852
But he willingly gave them the passcode. That doesn't suggest that he was trying to hide the contents of his phone IMO

Maybe he didn't think they would check the weather folder.

IDK
 
  • #853
But he willingly gave them the passcode. That doesn't suggest that he was trying to hide the contents of his phone IMO

HE DID NOT! When asked during interrogation about his phone password he said it was "biometric" and he didn't know the other password.
 
  • #854
Minor-- I'm too lazy to go back and find your post about thinking it was a mistake by the State to focus their case so squarely on proving malice murder rather than criminal negligence. ;)

But...I'm not sure I agree. I think the State wants to nail him for malice murder, but they don't really have a need to do so to achieve putting RH away for a very, very, long time. Given the State's brand new ability to attach felony murder to existing CC statutes, they now can get murder convinctions without having to prove either intent or premeditation.

I've said all along that I think this jury is likely to define criminal negligence for themselves, no matter what instructions and definitions Staley provides them for deliberation (if they don't convict outright on malice murder).

That RH was negligent is imo beyond dispute, no matter what Dr. Diamond brings to the table. Cooper is dead. It was RH's responsibility to keep him safe, and he didn't, no matter why he didn't. Past that, I think the jury will bring to the table all the bad character evidence, especially the sexting of June 18. There isn't a direct nexus between the sexting on that day and the time in which RH didn't take Cooper to daycare (he wasn't sexting during those few minutes) but I don't think it will matter.

So, imo, the State's strategy of focusing on bad character evidence and RH's demeanor on the 18th is a two-fer: provide it as "evidence" of intent, but failing that, so alienate the jury from RH that they will fill in every blank with antipathy towards him, and reach for the harshest interpretation of any area they find gray.

Yes every parent's job is to keep their children safe. That said, a variety of accidents happen to children in the care of the parent and the parents shouldn't be, and plenty of times aren't, charged. I don't think it's fair to make a blanket statement that something happening to one's child is automatically due to negligence. For example- Read a story over the summer. Mom had her children packed up from the pool. Floaties off, older child (5) was sitting in a chair next to her with a towel wrapped around her and flip flops on ready to go. Mom turned her back to help the 3 year old with their flip flops. Keys in her hand, pool bag on. This was a 30 second task and then they would be on their way. In that 30 seconds the 5 yr old saw a toy floating in a pool. Got up, walked over to the pool and bent over to get the toy. She fell in and due to her lack of her swimming skills and the weight of the wet towel she must not have been able to swim to the side. This was a loud pool with lots of kids so the splashing didn't even register on her radar. Another child helped the girl up but again, due to the towel and limited attention to what transpired this was no easy task for the child. Little girl lived but it was touch and go and I believe has brain damage. Was mom negligent becuase she turned her back to assist the second child? Total accident IMO despite her not being able to keep the kid safe in that moment. Does the mom blame herself? Sure probably everyday! Does she feel she was negligent ? She probably does but criminally negligent? Doubtful
 
  • #855
Stoddard says if he had seen Harris' tears or nose running or anything associated with crying, he would have been more likely to believe that Harris' outburst in the back of the patrol car was sincere.

Court recesses for morning break.
 
  • #856
Ohhh Stoddard is getting angry about the Cooper picture and penis picture. He is playing to the jury.

I'm getting mad and I can't even see it.
 
  • #857
It means absolutely nothing and I think it's obvious Stoddard is trying desperately to make a link where there is not one.

All of the photos on my phone are in the same "gallery" - it's called "My photos"

So are mine, except for the folder where I have documented my tooth extraction recovery :D
 
  • #858
HE DID NOT! When asked during interrogation about his phone password he said it was "biometric" and he didn't know the other password.

And later in the interview, he remembered the password and gave it to Stoddard.
 
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  • #860
Yea, picture of Cooper in same gallery as picture of penis means Ross had a double life. This only shows how Stoddard was targeting Ross and pulling things out of the air to fit his story.
 
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