Trial - Ross Harris #4

[GA_Peach]

Slightly off topic - will the State be allowed to ask LH if she was aware that Ross was sexting with minors?

JMHO I thinking the State won't call LH. Especially since Def said they would if State didn't. LH has not spoken to LEO since 6/18/14 per Stoddard. Also he said she is still listed as a Suspect on the reports. Curious if they will try to get something from her to charge her too from testimony? Thoughts?

We back

I would not put it past them. LH has to be extremely careful. If I were the State, I would want to know if she was aware of Ross sexting with minors. She has no good options when answering that question.

 

[cady]

Even if his head was not ever seen below the top of SUV imo that is a lame defense.I saw what I figured was the lightbulb bag, not the already dead baby's movement. JMO I imagine RH deliberately did NOT want to see what he knew was there. And would not want to smell his decaying baby, either. JMO

 

[ScotAng]

Slightly o/t: Anyone who has Youtube on their TV, wee heads up to make use of it. The difference in (presented) video quality on the big screen is amazing. Patience required to get to the actual live feed if you're not familiar with using YTube on TV. After the first watch, the option should present to automatically take you to live stream.

You might have to key in Ross Harris Trial live stream daily, though. Fox 5 Atlanta and Lawnewz are quickest access for me. All days are available by date.

 

[JerseyGirl]

I would love to see Leanna on the stand.

What could she possibly say that would help Ross?? Even her actions when she spoke to Ross that night were hinky. And then she divorced him after all the "I love you's", " I do not hate you", "Did you say too much?", "You've got to start trying to forgive yourself.". If she was to be a defense witness, why did she divorce him? That seems odd.

 

[arkansasmimi]

thought the State wanted to take the car seat from evidence and the Judge said no. How did they use the car seat then?

 

[peedoffinny]

For me it is 3 main things, maybe 4.

1. the extremely short time span. 30 seconds later he believes he dropped off the baby? Hard for me to accept that he got so deeply in thought that he totally forgot his baby was there in that 30 seconds...

2. The closeness of the baby seat to the drivers seat. It protrudes so far from the back seat that it was just inches away from the drivers seat.

3. His statements about hot cars being his and his wife's greatest fear. And his posting about that online---how terrible it would be if his kid was in a hot car accidentally.

4. His whining and complaining about his child blocking his ability divorce and his saying the joker drained his paycheck.

So the sexting is just icing on the cake, imo.

#2 and #1 are the majors factors for me thinking he's guilty. Thanks Katyd for saving me the work of typing it out.

 

[blue22]

I would not put it past them. LH has to be extremely careful. If I were the State, I would want to know if she was aware of Ross sexting with minors. She has no good options when answering that question.

I am really wondering about how her testimony could go. It's a total wild card for me. I wonder when the defense will call her. (Assuming the state doesn't first.) It could be risky to have her last.

 

[minor4th]

I don't think it matters whether this new scan is allowed or not. The fact that they had to do it over because they were so careless when preparing their case - I think that will say a lot to the jury. To me it indicates one of two things: 1) The state was careless and sloppy doing the investigation, and their conclusions are not reliable, or 2) The state is intentionally trying to present misleading evidence. Either way, it doesn't look good for the state.

Re: hating on law enforcement - not at all. My husband is a former cop, and I have great respect for the police. It infuriates me, however, when cops are not honest and take advantage of their authority. In this case, there are definitely some things that the cops did that lead to suspicions about their integrity and even their motives.

 

[Magdalyn]

I think some people in this thread appear to be letting their personal issues with law enforcement interfere in their judgement. Just my opinion of course, but I can honestly say I've never seen so much hate and vitriol towards the police than in this thread. Admittedly I'm a newbie here, so maybe it's not like that with other cases.

Yes, you'd think the Cobb County police (if not Stoddard himself) left Cooper to die an agonizing death in the back of a cruiser while they were charged with his care.

 

[minor4th]

If Ross deliberately left cooper in the car and knew he was there, it makes absolutely no sense that he would go to his car at lunch time to toss in light bulbs. Why would he do that?

 

[JerseyGirl]

A detective who testified earlier in the trial has taken the stand again for a motions hearing. The jury is not in .

He is discussing the placement of the car seat. The position of it was incorrect when the prosecution did a scan of the vehicle to create a 3-D video. They had to go back and rescan it with the right placement.

The defense is arguing the new scan shouldn’t be allowed because the rescan took place after the trial had started.

The defense is now cross examining the Cobb detective, Carey Grimstead. When you replaced the car seat the first time the seats extension was down. It was not down the day Cooper was strapped in and died.

Grimstead put the car seat in the backseat again with the extension up.

The measurements he used were the original ones included on the initial search warrant.

 

[amymarie]

But why would they be outraged that the State wanted to revise and improve the 3D scan? Isn't that what they originally complained about?

They would rather have the inaccurate scan because they can discredit it. They can't discredit the accurate scan, which hurts their case. I think we all know little Cooper was pretty darn close to Ross in that car.

 

[cricket49]

I would love to see Leanna on the stand.

What could she possibly say that would help Ross?? Even her actions when she spoke to Ross that night were hinky. And then she divorced him after all the "I love you's", " I do not hate you", "Did you say too much?", "You've got to start trying to forgive yourself.". If she was to be a defense witness, why did she divorce him? That seems odd.

I wonder if she was given details recently about all the sexting and messing around that Ross did? She heard about some of it during the preliminary hearing but having 10+ witnesses take the stand and all the sexting testimony it is much worse hearing all the details.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Grimstead said he was present when the scan was done. The car seat was not touched or moved in any way, he testified.

 

[cady]

If Ross deliberately left cooper in the car and knew he was there, it makes absolutely no sense that he would go to his car at lunch time to toss in light bulbs. Why would he do that?

To make sure the baby was deceased and not yet discovered. JMO

 

[minor4th]

FWIW - here's what I think of the State wanting to put in new/different evidence that was not previously given to the defense:

The State should not be able to change their evidence in the middle of trial, just because the defense was able to discredit the evidence. It is clearly not fair to the defendant to make them have to come up with a new way to challenge the evidence on the fly. Certainly they should not be allowed to re-present changed evidence during their case in chief. If anything, it could maybe be presented during rebuttal after the defense has an opportunity to prepare for it.

 

[JerseyGirl]

The defense continues to argue against allowing the scans.

The new scan took place on Oct. 15 and 16. Flyover videos used contain material differences than the original scans taking last March.

The scans allow the user of the software to manipulate different points and perspectives of Mr. Harris and the vehicle, Rodriguez said.

The new scan was based on completely new sources of information – two different detectives gave the information for the scans, Rodriguez said.

 

[katydid23]

FWIW - here's what I think of the State wanting to put in new/different evidence that was not previously given to the defense:

The State should not be able to change their evidence in the middle of trial, just because the defense was able to discredit the evidence. It is clearly not fair to the defendant to make them have to come up with a new way to challenge the evidence on the fly. Certainly they should not be allowed to re-present changed evidence during their case in chief. If anything, it could maybe be presented during rebuttal after the defense an opportunity to prepare for it.

It is not new different evidence, imo.

 

[blue22]

I would think the jury seeing into the vehicle is much more accurate and important. I'm not sure why the state even needs the dang video with that being allowed.

 

[minor4th]

Defense just asked for a written ruling on the denial of their motion in limine. That sort of suggests that they are considering an interlocutory appeal of that ruling.