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  • #281
His Half Brother and SIL a few fellows he worked with and one neighbor that was friends with Leanna.

I think what I have noticed most of all is that Ross Harris has had not one person sit behind him in court. That would really puzzle me if I was a juror.

The worst of the worst have had family stand by them. Think Casey Anthony, Jody Arias, OJ, Scott Peterson and Vanderbilt. They all were supported by their families.

So safe to say he didn't have a strong support base of friends/acquaintences with whom there was meaningful & tenured history.

Like, I'm pretty antisocial (in the literal, not the clinical sense) but I have a lot of friends who know me intimately and have known me for a long time.

They know I'm not a perfect parent. I lose my temper, I sometimes cuss, I've missed important childhood plays, etc., but they also know I am a loving parent who would never harm one of my kids. For example: Two years I drove them 4 hrs a day to a private school because it was best suited for their needs but I often moaned & complained about the horrendous drive. When someone describes another in terms of NEVER having witnessed him/her lose their cool or show frustration with their toddler, I immediately discredit the testimony as having stretched the truth or not knowing the defendant on a personal level.

Everything I DO is for my kids, but I'm not always outwardly 'perfect & loving' about doing it.

What you describe are either people related to RH or really only knew him in a very shallow sort of way (ie; describe him in terms of what they observed of him at church or wherever.)
 
  • #282
Originally Posted by Hope4More View Post
I’ve resolved the Dr. Diamond question, for myself anyway.

When trial began, Dr. Diamond was still on the table to be called. By October 20. When Kilgore indicated to Staley his case would last just 5-6 days, Kilgore was uncertain if he would call Diamond, but probably had already lined up Brewer as a replacement if he chose not to call Diamond.

That Kilgore, after trial began, doesn’t seem to have pursued the issue of having Dr. Diamond testify as to RH’s statements without RH testifying himself suggests to me that Kilgore was already leaning towards not calling Diamond.

I don’t believe that Kilgore would have advised RH to testify for any reason, even if it was the case RH had to testify to bring in Diamond, and that the DT thought Diamond essential.

IMO Kilgore concluded sometime between the State resting and after Brewer’s testimony that Diamond’s testimony could harm RH more than it could assist, because the State could and would use Diamond, “THE expert” on FBS, to point how inconsistent the facts of RH’s case were to other FBS cases.

Mystery solved, at least for me. At least until proven otherwise.
Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
10/20/16 <<<was a Thurs. But what of the FBI BAU info that the State made Def aware of having since >> Nov 5 2015 << and Stoddard doing a report on that info.
Def 10/24/16 Monday <<< (a found out same morning as they did about the rescan of car seat.

Sorry, I don't understand the question....

No question. Just that Oct 20, 2016 Kilgore was still unaware of the fact Stoddard had met with the FBI BAU and did a report on it. This came to light to the Def on Monday Oct 24, 2016. Kilgore also learned this date of the rescan of the car for 3D ... He was HOT. Rightfully so and the Judge ruled against them on discovery issues. We don't know when or why Dr Diamond was decided not to testify. Why could be the 50 slide witness. What could those 50 slides be about? Why not turn in the packet of stuff to the Judge prior to after lunch when the Def said no more witnesses? **Boring came from the Court Clerk carrying what looked like that same envelope he took back to the Court Clerk to be admitted after lunch. just odd.
 
  • #283
So safe to say he didn't have a strong support base of friends/acquaintences with whom there was meaningful & tenured history.

Like, I'm pretty antisocial (in the literal, not the clinical sense) but I have a lot of friends who know me intimately and have known me for a long time.

They know I'm not a perfect parent. I lose my temper, I sometimes cuss, I've missed important childhood plays, etc., but they also know I am a loving parent who would never harm one of my kids. For example: Two years I drove them 4 hrs a day to a private school because it was best suited for their needs but I often moaned & complained about the horrendous drive. When someone describes another in terms of NEVER having witnessed him/her lose their cool or show frustration with their toddler, I immediately discredit the testimony as having stretched the truth or not knowing the defendant on a personal level.

Everything I DO is for my kids, but I'm not always outwardly 'perfect & loving' about doing it.

What you describe are either people related to RH or really only knew him in a very shallow sort of way (ie; describe him in terms of what they observed of him at church or wherever.)

Yes there are many layers to each of us. The three closest to Ross would be his half brother, sil and wife. I did forget to mention the man helping Ross deal with his 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.

The sexting and all that went with it seemed to be so surprising to all the witnesses testifying. Even his life coach helping him.

I have listened to everybody and everything. Understood some but not all. I think this jury is going to have a very rough time coming to a decision. I'm guessing they too will be divided.
 
  • #284
Absolutely! That's what I don't understand. Why on earth would anyone choose this method to murder a child?

It makes no sense to me at all. If this is a premeditated murder, here's a guy who works in IT, he could have factory reset his phone anytime, prior to committing this master crime...

There are so many things that fairly scream that RH had no idea he was going to be looked at, or scutinized, which is pretty basic knowledge if your child dies in your care.

Disregarding the total ridiculousness of this 'plan' for anyone to try and pull off, I can't find one single case of anyone, ever, being convicted of premeditated murder of a child by Hot Car Death. Not one.
So Ross is the first parent ever?

I personally think this was a "perfect" plan for Ross because he can claim he simply forgot and that is hard to prove. I believe he had thought it over before actually going through with it, but was hesitant. Again, I'm not sure how far back he had thought this out, but I do believed he decided to go through with it at CFA and then blocked his mind from thinking of it further, done deal. He could then claim he forgot because he's heard of it happening before and would want to become a advocate. :rolleyes: I truly believe he thought he was going to get a slap on the wrist and was taken aback when arrested and charged. Therefore why go through all the trouble of deleting things off his phone and computer. JMO!
 
  • #285
Twice Motion for Mistrials in 2 day

Oct 27, 2016 Thurs
4:30 p.m. Staley Clark is on the verge of going into recess when lead defense attorney Maddox Kilgore tells her he wants to "perfect the record" regarding his motion for a mistrial earlier in the day. Kilgore objected strenuously to the jury's viewing of Harris's SUV in the courthouse parking lot this morning. Calling this brief trip an "absolute disaster," he moved for a mistrial immediately afterward. Staley Clark denied the motion. She hears Kilgore, notes his comments for the record and then recesses the trial for the day.

9:54 a.m. "It was a disaster," Kilgore says. "An absolute disaster." Kilgore again asks for a mistrial.

9:53 a.m. Prosecution says this the car is the murder weapon for the entire case. The jurors were allowed to examine the evidence, Prosecutor Chuck Boring says.

9:52 a.m. Kilgore asks for a mistrial.

9:49 a.m. Kilgore says the lighting outside was different Thursday morning than the day Cooper Harris died.

9:46 a.m. Kilgore says all of the jurors are different heights, and many are shorter than Harris. Their view of the SUV would be different, the defense attorney says. The jurors have been "given free range to substitute their vantage point for the evidence," Kilgore says

Oct 28, 2016 Friday

3:43 Judge denies the motion.
3:42 Bryan Lumpkin says the defense is moving for a mistrial. He says the burden to prove the defendant's innocence has shifted to them with the state's argument. Evans disagrees and says they are "keenly aware" of what the burden is; witnesses' contact info was sent to both sides. That's not burden-shifting.
3:41 All rise for the jury's exit.
3:39 Judge Staley Clark gives a little talk to the jury and wishes them a good weekend.
3:37 Redirect by Lumpkin: Your guidance for what to look at and consider and talk to, those decisions were made by Det. Stoddard? Murphy says as far as witnesses, uniform officers had a list they handed him and he was told to interview them. He did, took notes, recorded it and turned over a summary to Stoddard. Lumpkin thanks him. Evans says he has no further questions.
3:35 The jury is back in and Murphy is on the stand. The cross-examination is brief by Jesse Evans. You were not the lead detective? Correct. More of a support role? Correct. If the lead detective needs something, you do it or delegate it? Correct.
Evans's cross is a series of questions to which Murphy answers mostly "Correct" or "Yes" to about his duties on the cas
3:34 Judge stands by her prior ruling.
3:34 Lumpkin: The state argues it's semantics. We are simply asking for truth. We want the truth to be able to come out. No matter how you slice it, this is not out-of-court statements offered for truth of the matter asserted, which is what hearsay is. He says they're operating under the defense's right under the law to put forth its defense in accordance with the law. That law says they should be able to ask the detective these questions--did you testify to this, have personal information about it, and if not, why did you testify to that? If it came from another witness who has testified, it could be used to impeach.
3:30 Evans explains the state's view of why this detective's testimony shouldn't be allowed. He says it's even rare that the state would call the second-in-charge detective. Evans reiterates that Murphy's knowledge is secondhand.
"Anything having to do with the search warrants is simply irrelevant in terms of what's being presented to the jury at this point," says Evans, who notes that he didn't object when Murphy corrected his own firsthand knowledge of how the car seat was strapped in the SUV.
He says with the statements about "searching child deaths in a car"--"we're talking about semantics," says Evans. It's hearsay, it's semantics, you made rulings about motions to suppress before. Where he got the information in question is hearsay that he got from another source. He wasn't in interviews. It's irrelevant.
"Clearly all the information he was passing along to the magistrate was information he was getting from other people," says Evans. "There's no constitutional right to present hearsay evidence."
3:27 "The state totally disregarded actual evidence right in front of them; they creative a narrative that landed us here today, contends Lumpkin.
3:23 "We have a right to put up a defense for Mr. Ross Harris," says Lumpkin, and part of that involves attacking the credibility of this investigation.
Lumpkin says the investigation has been fraught with misleading information and lies, and unfortunately, this jury has not been privy to knowing just how far this went to the point of testimony under oath that violates the truth. He says they have the right to impeach previous testimony. Mr. Harris's ability to have a fair trial pervades everything they do, and the State's objection that it's hearsay is clearly unfounded in the law. Lumpkin says frankly, they fear the State is putting the Court in a very difficult position.
He asks the court to reconsider letting them going into these areas of questioning.
"The truth should not be some weighty object that keeps us from going forward," says Lumpkin. The state did not want to allow us to bring out the truthfulness using this detective by calling him as their own witness, he says.

http://www.wsbradio.com/weblogs/ros...g/2016/oct/28/friday-oct-28-day-16-testimony/
 
  • #286
Oct 25, 2016 is when Kilgore asked Stoddard about contacting the FBI for help (says health here)

11:15 a.m.

Stoddard requested health from the FBI. They gave him articles about parents forgetting their children in cars.

The articles included ones written by an expert, David Diamond, who the defense plans to call as a witness in this case.

Kilgore is now asking questions about Stoddard&#8217;s testimony that he detected a smell of death.

&#8220;You didn&#8217;t smell anything on the scene?&#8221; Kilgore asked. &#8220;No, sir,&#8221; Stoddard replied.

Stoddard got in the car later that night, roughly six hours later. At that time, the car was in the evidence shed at the police department.

In 2014, Stoddard testified that there was a foul odor that smelled like decomposition. &#8220;Yesterday when you testified, you kind of backed off that a little bit,&#8221; Kilgore said.

Stoddard said he didn&#8217;t mean decomposition in the scientific sense. He said he meant he smelled &#8220;death&#8221; not decomp.

Another officer said he smelled an odor of &#8220;death&#8221; at the scene. http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...rris-murder-trial-oct/Dmo0qRDQuDAgfBiBSbsmiP/
 
  • #287
I have been reading here and several other places covering the death of little Cooper and the trial of his father Ross. I find a lot of interesting comments but all differing. Many believe it was planned but many think it was an accident.

If the jury is divided like those posting about this case I don't see them being able to come to a verdict on six of the charges. I do think they have what they need on the under aged sexting counts.

So my question is this. If they are hung on six but find guilty on two will there be a retrial on the six? Or is it over just finding on the two?

Sorry it's confusing.

JMHO on the underage I agree that guilty, because they have that proof. How that proof came about is also in question and will also be challenged on the 8 charges that was indicted March 2016 to separate from this case. Fruit from the poisonous tree on Appeal could possibly determine something on those charges. But JMHO in this trial as is, I think no doubt guilty on those. On the others... still awaiting the State to show me beyond a reasonable doubt from their case. Maybe something earth shaking will pull it all together tomorrow.
 
  • #288
The jurors being able to walk around the car is damning to the DT, of course they want a mistrial. However, the lighting? really? Ross never walked around the car, he WAS IN THE CAR when he choose to leave Cooper there to die. The DT should be grateful the jurors were not allowed to actually sit in the car and decide for themselves. I never understood why they were not allowed to sit in the car, makes sense to me because that is exactly what Ross did. As far as the lunch issue when Ross tossed the lightbulbs in, the juror also should have been able to do that, but I think sitting in the car would have been so much more effective. :scared:
 
  • #289
Yes, that's my best answer. :).

And, I don't "hate" Stoddard for testifying under oath and providing "misinformation," nor do I "hate" him for rushing to judgement, fishing for evidence to support his assumptions, ignoring evidence that didn't fit his conclusions, and presiding over a grossly tainted LE investigation. Though it is fair to say I find him contemptible, as I do anyone in a position of power who abuses the public's trust.

Sigh. It isn't unusual for misinformation on search warrants to be corrected throughout an investigation. You know this but continue with the dramatic posts about it. It doesn't change the facts of the case. All the blame for Stoddard but just excuses and justifications for RH. It makes no sense.
 
  • #290
And that's coincidentally something that screams at me. To take a video from a vet, speaking about leaving animals in the car - he took the time to comment and associate it to his child mere days before he did that very thing.

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Yes - I commented on this previously. And it is also significant that he has a dog. So why not associate it with his dog rather than his son?

Let's say I have an elderly grandmother and a young wife living in my home. I see a video warning of elderly people falling down the stairs and tells how to prevent it. I state, "Gee, I would hate my young wife to fall down the stairs like that!" and then, 5 days later, she does.

Now if he didn't have a dog, I could *maybe* see him trying to make it relate to something in his life. But, as I stated before, the video was made by a veterinarian NOT a pediatrician. So that leap is quite suspicious to me. imho.
 
  • #291
The jurors being able to walk around the car is damning to the DT, of course they want a mistrial. However, the lighting? really? Ross never walked around the car, he WAS IN THE CAR when he choose to leave Cooper there to die. The DT should be grateful the jurors were not allowed to actually sit in the car and decide for themselves. I never understood why they were not allowed to sit in the car, makes sense to me because that is exactly what Ross did. As far as the lunch issue when Ross tossed the lightbulbs in, the juror also should have been able to do that, but I think sitting in the car would have been so much more effective. :scared:

Hummm I can kind of see why there were not allowed to enter the car. Some short jurors would see something entirely different than tall jurors. I think that might make deliberations harder.

Each juror was able to to 'see' Ross in the car. He's tall the car is small and the car seat was close.
 
  • #292
Whisper memes RH responded to on morning of June 18. All of them posted onto his phone via a feed. He didn&#8217;t go searching for any of them....they just popped up.
--------------------------------------------------
7:40. About coffee enemas

8:16. Love my MAC

8:43. Why do teachers give homework

8:46. having a boring day, can anyone help

RH response: &#8220; My day just started, actually, I woke up at 5:30. Kill me. I have a son. That joker decided hey. I&#8217;m going to wake up early. He&#8217;s awesome.&#8221;

8:48. I like tall girls. Anyone else? &#8220;I do, but I&#8217;m not very single.&#8221;

8:49. PCB.

8:55 Married, etc. escape
 
  • #293
Hummm I can kind of see why there were not allowed to enter the car. Some short jurors would see something entirely different than tall jurors. I think that might make deliberations harder.

Each juror was able to to 'see' Ross in the car. He's tall the car is small and the car seat was close.

The shorter jurors maybe not have seen much as the taller ones as they walked around the car :crazy: I still think the shorter jurors would still be able to make a good call had they sat in the car. ;)
 
  • #294
Forgot about this request for Mistrial, after Gallimore testimony. Defense was successful getting his Police report into evidence, because of a New Law. Defense moved for her say it on record in front of the jury. State didn't see a need for that. Def said it had appeared in front of Jury that Def had did something wrong. Staley sided with Defense and then reversed herself in front of the jury.

<Snip> http://people.com/crime/hot-car-death-suspect-justin-ross-harris-trial-jury-photos-cooper/
&#8220;When I say he was acting hysterical, I literally mean that he was &#8216;acting&#8217; hysterical &#8211; acting &#8211; not genuine,&#8221; Cobb County police officer Brett Gallimore testified on Wednesday, adding that he never saw Harris cry.

According to Gallimore, Justin would wail one moment, and remain stoic the next. He also testified that Justin became combative with police, telling officers to &#8220;shut the f&#8212; up&#8221; and &#8220;f&#8212; you&#8221; before he was detained.

In court on Tuesday, defense attorney Maddox Kilgore told the jurors that there was &#8220;no doubt&#8221; that Justin was responsible for the death of his son, Cooper. But he called it a &#8220;tragic accident.&#8221;

Kilgore also challenged Gallimore for not highlighting Justin&#8217;s alleged insincerity in his police report at the time and moved, unsuccessfully, for a mistrial on the basis of this contradiction

snip>http://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-ne...defense-seek-mistrial/kCqwfBi9nxjxit13qXRViI/
Kilgore, arguing that a Cobb police officer lied on the stand and the judge prevented him from properly cross-examining him, motioned for a mistrial Wednesday following a wild day of testimony.

&#8220;Our ability to cross examine that last witness had been severely interfered with,&#8221; Kilgore said. He accused Cobb County Police Officer Brett Gallimore of contradicting his initial report while on the stand Wednesday.

&#8220;We have a right to bust him on it,&#8221; Kilgore said.

Superior Court Judge Mary Staley Clark denied the motion, made on the eve of a four-day weekend necessitated by the looming threat of Hurricane Matthew.

&#8220;This is not grounds for a mistrial,&#8221; Staley Clark said. &#8220;There&#8217;s a remedy for that called appellate review.&#8221;

Gallimore had testified that Harris&#8217; grief after finding his son&#8217;s body appeared manufactured.

Snip> http://www.myajc.com/news/news/local/a-stricken-ross-harris-jury-sees-crime-scene-photo/nsk4G/
Harris lawyer Maddox Kilgore moved for a mistrial &#8212; denied by Superior Court Judge Mary Staley Clark &#8212; saying the testimony of Cobb County Officer Brett Gallimore contradicted the police report Gallimore filed on Cooper&#8217;s death.

&#8220;This witness &#8230; came out of the box with stuff that wasn&#8217;t in his report, totally and completely different,&#8221; Kilgore said. &#8220;And we have the right in defending Mr. Harris to bust him on it and show the jury exactly what was in his report.&#8221;
Kilgore pointed to new rules of evidence that allowed the defense to admit police reports into evidence.
A stricken Ross Harris jury sees crime-scene photos of toddler photo
Witness Ashleigh Womack: &#8220;It&#8217;s not something you ever forget. He didn&#8217;t look like he was alive.&#8221;
Judge Staley Clark said she would revisit the matter Monday. &#8220;This is not grounds for a mistrial,&#8221; said the judge, who has long been regarded as prosecution-friendly. &#8220;There&#8217;s a remedy for that called appellate review.&#8221;

<snip>Oct 5, 2016 http://www.mdjonline.com/social/jur...cle_f4fcf156-8b66-11e6-8830-c3c22262b4d2.html
Kilgore remarked that although the report contained clear specificity in other areas, it didn&#8217;t in that one. He also moved to get the narrative admitted into evidence, which Boring objected to as hearsay. Cobb County Superior Court Judge Mary Staley Clark sustained Boring&#8217;s objection.
When Kilgore moved for a mistrial, he said new evidence rules under Georgia law specifically allow an exception to the hearsay rule for police report narratives, as long as that action is made by the defense. He said denial of his motion to place the narrative into evidence also denied his ability to provide an effective cross-examination.
Boring said not only was Kilgore&#8217;s assertion a misinterpretation of the rule, but also under case law from the U.S. 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.
Staley Clark said if Kilgore wanted, they could revisit the issue at the lunch break Monday.
 
  • #295
Sigh. It isn't unusual for misinformation on search warrants to be corrected throughout an investigation. You know this but continue with the dramatic posts about it. It doesn't change the facts of the case. All the blame for Stoddard but just excuses and justifications for RH. It makes no sense.

RBBM, per testimony the Magistrate was never alerted on any of the SW being incorrect. The only "correction" was some had changed information. Court was never alerted of the misinformation. Some out right lies. And the case proceeded to trial 10/3/2016.

JMHO calling other members post "dramatic", is uncalled for - especially when post reflect directly from testimony given in trial vs emotional opinions with a clear mindset of guilt prior to any testimony or evidence presented.
 
  • #296
Whisper memes RH responded to on morning of June 18. All of them posted onto phone via a feed. He didn’t go searching for any of them.
--------------------------------------------------
7:40. About coffee enemas

8:16. Love my MAC

8:43. Why do teachers give homework

8:46. having a boring day, can anyone help

RH response: “ My day just started, actually, I woke up at 5:30. Kill me. I have a son. That joker decided hey. I’m going to wake up early. He’s awesome.”

8:48. I like tall girls. Anyone else? “I do, but I’m not very single.”

8:49. PCB.

8:55 Married, etc. escape

Fact proved by testimony ^^
 
  • #297
No question. Just that Oct 20, 2016 Kilgore was still unaware of the fact Stoddard had met with the FBI BAU and did a report on it. This came to light to the Def on Monday Oct 24, 2016. Kilgore also learned this date of the rescan of the car for 3D ... He was HOT. Rightfully so and the Judge ruled against them on discovery issues. We don't know when or why Dr Diamond was decided not to testify. Why could be the 50 slide witness. What could those 50 slides be about? Why not turn in the packet of stuff to the Judge prior to after lunch when the Def said no more witnesses? **Boring came from the Court Clerk carrying what looked like that same envelope he took back to the Court Clerk to be admitted after lunch. just odd.

Thanks. We obviously can't know for sure who the "slide show no show" was, but for myself, I'm convinced it wasn't Dr. Diamond, for all the reasons I've posted, including that the DT didn't in fact shut down their case days early. Kilgore said on October 20 that it would last 5-6 days, depending on how long the State used for cross, and that it would possibly be shorter; he had to wait til the State rested to know if he'd drop a few witnesses or add a few. November 4, when the DT rested, lined right up with that schedule.

The 50 slide witness, if Kilgore ever really meant to call him/her, seemed scheduled for a half day, including cross. 50 slides, and supposedly the DT's key witness, wrapped up in half a day. Just don't think so, especially given the rest of context, including I absolutely don't believe the DT feared what was in that FBi file. They have been meticulously prepared every step of the way and for every witness, their own and the State's. As well, I'm confident in Dr. Diamond's professionalism, that he would have provided the DT himself whatever info/articles/reports the State could have obtained from any other source.
 
  • #298
I personally think this was a "perfect" plan for Ross because he can claim he simply forgot and that is hard to prove. I believe he had thought it over before actually going through with it, but was hesitant. Again, I'm not sure how far back he had thought this out, but I do believed he decided to go through with it at CFA and then blocked his mind from thinking of it further, done deal. He could then claim he forgot because he's heard of it happening before and would want to become a advocate. :rolleyes: I truly believe he thought he was going to get a slap on the wrist and was taken aback when arrested and charged. Therefore why go through all the trouble of deleting things off his phone and computer. JMO!

Ditto. In the interrogation room, RH is very prepared to discuss his actions, route and details of his day. He remembered where he parked at the treehouse. (I rarely remember where I park and have to scan parking lots to get a cue! But RH remembered exactly where he had parked ("under a tree") even after the trauma of "discovering" his dead son in the car seat a few miles away, after not smelling the stench in the car during the ~7 minute drive). He remembers the mutual kiss when he strapped Cooper into the car seat at CFA! RH recalls every detail of that day and is completely focused on complying with answering questions so he can get the heck out of there. Oh, but he "forgot" to mention the light bulb drop during lunch. And, of course, he "forgot" to remove his son from the car. Oopsie.

The complete focus in the interrogation room is about RH. The detective constantly has to remind RH that "your son is dead." RH has accepted this already and has moved on to his "finish up your questions so I can leave" mindset. There is zero compassion or empathy expressed for the horror, pain and torture that little Cooper suffered. It does not register in RH's mind, because he has accepted it! Because he planned it. He is well equipped, however, to answer all the questions and justify this "accident" and provide excuses for why this is not a crime. He's very well prepared.

I have tried to imagine the effect of shock on RH and LTH and their reactions. Could they somehow be so in shock so as to not experience emotional images of the horror of the 7 hours that their son baked to death in that hot car? I think I would be overwhelmed with the thoughts and images of what the child went through. But NO ONE EVEN MENTIONS IT. I cannot get past that everyone's focus (except LE's who kept reminding them "your son is dead") is upon RH. RH actually assigns TASKS to his dead son's mother (e.g., "call 🤬🤬🤬 at Home Depot, but don't tell them this legal stuff," "I need representation," etc. Repeat, he assigns TASKS to the dead child's mother!! Her behavior is another issue, which I won't go into other than to say "FREAK".

There are too many oddities and coincidences to be rationalized in this case. I suspect the jury will hang or settle on a lesser charge, just because the thought of a parent purposely doing this is too horrific to believe. And it only takes 1 juror to hang. But I think RH planned this, thought he'd walk away scott free and receive sympathy from others. I think he was shocked that they figured it out, that this was intentional. He didn't get sympathy; he got prosecuted. ******
 
  • #299
Last note on the Dr. Diamond question.

I listened to Kilgore's entire opening statement again. He never used the term FBS; the words he uses throughout for what happened are "Ross FORGOT."

At round about the last 20 minute mark or so, Kilgore asks the question - how is it possible that Ross forgot? What's interesting is that he still doesn't use the term FBS, and that his brief overview explanation was definitely the Cliff note version of Brewer's testimony, even down to several of Brewer's analogies. There is nothing Kilgore touched on that Brewer didn't specifically include in his testimony.

Interesting. :)

I think it's also possible to infer that Kilgore had already decided not to call Dr. A, or at least, that he wasn't going to rely on Dr. A. to introduce testimony about how Ross's behavior and emotions were consistent with a response to trauma. He intended from the get-go to present Leanna's responses as an inferred parallel to RH's.
 
  • #300
Did I read in someone's post about RH not being triggered by a long list of triggers that he grabbed his CFA cup but left a bag with CFA food in the car when he got out? If that is the case the smell in the car was probably rancid food. Why in the world would he leave that there? That is just gross.
 
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