Trial - Ross Harris #9

[Gardenista]

Like an old diaper that got left in the car? I know. Nobody would leave an old diaper in their car.

Yup. Especially a slob like Ross. It seems exactly the kind of thing he would do.

 

[monkeypants]

Like an old diaper that got left in the car? I know. Nobody would leave an old diaper in their car.

Lol exactly!

 

[LibertyandJustice4]

Kilgore closing continues:

Now Kilgore turns to the defendant's daily routine -- when he took his son to breakfast at Chick-fil-A, when he went to the restaurant by himself and when he took Cooper to daycare at Little Apron Academy.

He points out that no Chick-fil-A employee said he or she had seen Cooper at the restaurant with his father between March 14 and June 18. "It was the exception. It wasn't the normal route. Taking Cooper for breakfast was clearly the exception. But he took him on June the 18th."

He cites testimony by a memory expert who said it was possible for Harris to forget Cooper was in the car "in seconds."

But going out the CFA drive was the normal route. RH taking Cooper inside seems to be what he's going for with the "change in routine", but if he took him to the drive-thru, he STILL drove that exact same route. If he's going from CFA to daycare in the mornings, that is part of the routine when he goes to CFA regardless where inside CFA they go. That's like me saying I forgot my child because we normally went to CFA, but this morning I had to use the restroom and that was out of the routine. Makes no sense when the driving route is exactly the same as it's always been.

 

[Inthedetails]

Like an old diaper that got left in the car? I know. Nobody would leave an old diaper in their car.

Exactly. The diaper would've at least reminded Ross of Cooper.

When I smell the toast burning, I remember the toast. When I smell the cat litter, I remember the cat. If I smell yuckiness in my lunch bag, I remember I left food there. These are common smells we recognize, but they are not so common that we smell them all the time. That means when we do smell them, we remember what is connected to the smell.

One of the reasons we can smell is because it triggers memories.

jmopinion

 

[monkeypants]

Anyone know what time court is back in session?

 

[minor4th]

Anyone know what time court is back in session?

1:30 pm

 

[EquallyDivided]

Thinking of you, sweet baby.

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[Gardenista]

Exactly. The diaper would've at least reminded Ross of Cooper.

When I smell the toast burning, I remember the toast. When I smell the cat litter, I remember the cat. If I smell yuckiness in my lunch bag, I remember I left food there. These are common smells we recognize, but they are not so common that we smell them all the time. That means when we do smell them, we remember what is connected to the smell.

One of the reasons we can smell is because it triggers memories.

jmopinion

there was nothing to remember. he thought cooper was at school

 

[just the facts pls]

That's just one of the many things that have to be explained and contorted, to explain poor Ross.

Yes and thank you.

Kilgore wants to talk about mental gymnastics. IMO I would have to jump through A LOT of hoops to arrive to the conclusion JRH is not guilty. I would have to have an explanation for every single thing that happened days or even months before the fact, rather than allowing all the information to fit together as it logically would.

All evidence points to JRH having an early mid life crises and deciding he'd rather be a single and unattached to any responsibilities. Normally I would not hold such a decision against someone, but he had already made the commitment to marry and have Cooper. I am not a fan of the institution of marriage but if you're going to marry someone then you should be prepared to do your part to fulfill that legal contract OR at least be prepared to get your hands dirty and ask for a divorce if things go south (which they usually do). If JRH was adult enough to get married and enjoy the benefits of marriage (including the benefit of being seen as a family man) then he is adult enough to have taken responsibility for his own life and bit the bullet and asked for a divorce.

Or, he could have gotten help. The problem with that is that he didn't tell anyone what went on in his life unless he thought they would find out anyhow. :sigh:

 

[monkeypants]

Is there anyway to set up a jury is back alert thread that we can subscribe to?

I have FOMV.

 

[just the facts pls]

Anyone know what time court is back in session?

1:30pm

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Exactly. The diaper would've at least reminded Ross of Cooper.

When I smell the toast burning, I remember the toast. When I smell the cat litter, I remember the cat. If I smell yuckiness in my lunch bag, I remember I left food there. These are common smells we recognize, but they are not so common that we smell them all the time. That means when we do smell them, we remember what is connected to the smell.

One of the reasons we can smell is because it triggers memories.

jmopinion

Maybe it would trigger a memory or maybe it wouldn't. JMO

 

[Paige SC]

It's possible. I know someone who had their nose broken at a very young age and he has a somewhat impaired sense of smell. I accidentally forgot leftovers from a restaurant in his car and he certainly smelled it the next morning when he got into his car to go to work.

I'm unconvinced that JRH smelled nothing, especially since we have no reason to believe his smell is impaired. Nobody on the stand testified to JRH being unable to smell nor did they relate any story that might suggest JRH's smell was impaired by an accident.

They offered NO explanation of why most smelled something but their client smelled NOTHING. Pointing out that no two people smelled something identical doesn't cast doubt on whether or not there was an odor. An odor noticed by everyone except the dude who was IN the car. Either you have to doubt a smell existed (does anyone?) or wonder why RH didn't offer up a reason why he wouldn't have detected it. Or, concede there was a smell, RH noticed it and didn't bother to take a quick look-see around the car because.....

 

[Inthedetails]

there was nothing to remember. he thought cooper was at school

Right....wouldn't the SMELL make you think of the person who made the smell?!?

 

[minor4th]

IMO I have no way to predict what the jury will do in this case, but Kilgore did a great job with his closing and hit all the points he needed to hit to present the best case for the defense.

Boring, on the other hand, was all over the place and did very little to explain how this is so clearly a case of intentional murder or even criminal negligence. I was sincerely looking for him to pull it all together so I could finally understand exactly what the Stare's theory is. I needed for him to lay it out so that it makes sense - but it doesn't make sense.

 

[Inthedetails]

Maybe it would trigger a memory or maybe it wouldn't. JMO

Well, I hope the cat litter and burning toast do trigger a memory! LOL

 

[katydid23]

Like an old diaper that got left in the car? I know. Nobody would leave an old diaper in their car.

First thing one would do, IMO< is to turn at look at the car seat, if one smelled urine in the car. No need to search for an old diaper---just look a few inches to the right and back---

 

[just the facts pls]

They offered NO explanation of why most smelled something but their client smelled NOTHING. Pointing out that no two people smelled something identical doesn't cast doubt on whether or not there was an odor. An odor noticed by everyone except the dude who was IN the car. Either you have to doubt a smell existed (does anyone?) or wonder why RH didn't offer up a reason why he wouldn't have detected it. Or, concede there was a smell, RH noticed it and didn't bother to take a quick look-see around the car because.....

BBM. Yes that is what I've said several times myself. There was A SMELL, what exactly JRH would have smelled was is irrelevant but it was most definitely there.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Well, I hope the cat litter and burning toast do trigger a memory! LOL

If it did trigger a memory could it be something like "Oh damn, I think I left a diaper in the car again." JMO

 

[monkeypants]

there was nothing to remember. he thought cooper was at school

Hmmmm that's strange, I know I dropped cooper at D.C. So why in the world does my car smell like a soaked diaper...let me look