trial thread: 3/23/2012

[Sailor Bug]

RaffertyLFP: McClintic continues to maintain she did not know Tori before her abduction.

Derstine suggests the abduction was her idea. Rafferty knew nothing of it.

Derstine says Tori was offered to Rafferty sexually. Rafferty rejected the offer. McClintic directed Rafferty to the country.

 

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Necro isn't "a lot more violent", it is completely violent. Music can't make anybody do anything but one can draw certain conclusions about people who listen to certain types of music. Rap is mostly about the lyrical content, not the musical content (it barely has any). It takes a certain type of person to listen to repeated violent, murderous, torturous lyrics. That is all the defense is trying to do, shock the jury and show what type of person TLM.

Yes shock factor. Wonder if it's working? Maybe some of these jurors or their kids are NECRO fans.

 

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Adrian Morrow ‏
McClintic said it was a lie, cos she was trying to get out of testifying

Adrian Morrow
In a police interview two months ago, McClintic said Rafferty said they had to stop at Home Depot, but she decided what to buy

 

[Sailor Bug]

McClintic told him to go to a safe house. She then killed Tori, as she spoke to her alone because Tori was afraid, Derstine says.

RaffertyLFP: Derstine suggests that McClintic offered Tori to Rafferty and he rejected the offer. McClintic says she strongly disagrees

McClintic rejects all of that. Derstine says Rafferty was horrified of the murder and helped McClintic clean up.

Derstine notes Rafferty had the blue knife in the car, and wouldn't have needed a weapon, in contrary to McClintic's prior statement

Derstine suggests her white coat only had blood on it because she killed and murdered Tori. So the coat was thrown away.

 

[nettie_82]

Wasn't his vehicle caught on video? He can't really dispute, imo.

No, but some people here have thought he would try to say someone else was driving. IMO, he was the driver, and if he was present he is as guilty as her no matter who swung the hammer in the end.
JMHO

 

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RaffertyLFP: Derstine tells McClintic it was her idea alone to buy hammer and garbage bags. "You are mistaken," she replied. [via Twitter]

 

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Adrian Morrow ‏
Derstine is laying out his version of events: he says McClintic decided to abduct Tori, brought her to Rafferty's car...

RaffertyLFP: Derstine suggests that McClintic offered Tori to Rafferty and he rejected the offer. McClintic says she strongly disagrees. [via Twitter]

 

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Adrian Morrow ‏
McClintic says none of Derstine's version of events is true

Adrian Morrow ‏
...could talk to Tori. When Rafferty was away, Derstine says, McClintic killed Tori. Rafferty was horrified but helped clean up, he says

Adrian Morrow ‏
Derstine says McClintic "offered" Tori to Rafferty and he said no. So McClintic directed him to a rural area, told him to walk away so she

Adrian Morrow ‏
Derstine says McClintic told Rafferty that Tori had been kidnapped because of a drug debt. He says McClintic decided to buy the hammer

Adrian Morrow ‏
Derstine is laying out his version of events: he says McClintic decided to abduct Tori, brought her to Rafferty's car...



Adrian is on the ball today! :rocker:

 

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RaffertyLFP: Derstine suggests Rafferty wasn't present for the killing and was horrified when he saw what happened. McClintic says that is wrong

McClintic disagrees. She does agree that she used Rafferty's phone to make calls to drug associates.

McClintic disagrees again, when Derstine suggests she created the script. McClintic made a statement to police on 5/29/09.

Derstine says McClintic is seen on camera taking Tori, and on camera buying "murder tools". Only her word on #rafferty's involvement.

 

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RaffertyLFP: Derstine suggests Rafferty wasn't present for the killing and was horrified when he saw what happened. McClintic says that is wrong. [via Twitter]


RaffertyLFP: Derstine suggests that McClintic offered Tori to Rafferty and he rejected the offer. McClintic says she strongly disagrees. [via Twitter]


RaffertyLFP: Derstine tells McClintic it was her idea alone to buy hammer and garbage bags. "You are mistaken," she replied. [via Twitter]

 

[nettie_82]

AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
McClintic disagrees. She does agree that she used Rafferty's phone to make calls to drug associates.

AM980.ca
Derstine suggests her white coat only had blood on it because she killed and murdered Tori. So the coat was thrown away.

AM980.ca ‏
Derstine notes Rafferty had the blue knife in the car, and wouldn't have needed a weapon, in contrary to McClintic's prior statement.

AM980.ca ‏
McClintic rejects all of that. Derstine says Rafferty was horrified of the murder and helped McClintic clean up.

AM980.ca
McClintic told him to go to a safe house. She then killed Tori, as she spoke to her alone because Tori was afraid, Derstine says.

AM980.ca
Derstine says Tori was offered to Rafferty sexually. Rafferty rejected the offer. McClintic directed Rafferty to the country.

 

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No, but some people here have thought he would try to say someone else was driving. IMO, he was the driver, and if he was present he is as guilty as her no matter who swung the hammer in the end.
JMHO

Oh I see. I didn't realize people were speculating that it was someone else driving as a defense theory. Thanks

 

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Derstine says McClintic is seen on camera taking Tori, and on camera buying "murder tools". Only her word on #rafferty's involvement.

McClintic was asked about the written lies. She told police she wrote out the lies, she "had a lot of stuff going through her head".

Events as Derstine suggests: McC's idea to abduct Tori, brought her to the car in a friendly way, told #Rafferty the girl was a drug debt

RaffertyLFP: She maintains the script was from Rafferty, not her ideas

RaffertyLFP: McClintic referred to police interview where she said the script was her ideas. Said that was wrong

 

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Adrian Morrow ‏
Derstine asks McClintic if she used Rafferty's BlackBerry to call her drug connections that day. McClintic says she might have

Adrian Morrow ‏
Rafferty had a knife in his car (McClintic used it to cut bloody portions out of the seat), Derstine asks: "then why'd he want a hammer?"

 

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RaffertyLFP: She maintains the script was from Rafferty, not her ideas. [via Twitter]


RaffertyLFP: McClintic questioned about script written by her on what she would say if questioned by police. [via Twitter]

 

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She said at the time, nobody helped her with the lies. Derstine notes she had already implicated Rafferty, why would she lie? She stammers

... says McC offered Tori to #rafferty as a gift, he refused, she directed him to a rural area, suggests he leave scene...

Derstine notes it wasn't a high pressure situation. She was trying to help, she says.

...Derstine suggests #Rafferty left scene because Tori was scared of him, returned and was horrified to see McC had killed Tori...

 

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RaffertyLFP: Explaining conflicting versions, a number of times McClintic has said she can't explain how her mind works. [via Twitter]


RaffertyLFP: McClintic referred to police interview where she said the script was her ideas. Said that was wrong. [via Twitter]

 

[Sailor Bug]

Derstine has mistakenly interrupted McClintic a few times, to Gowdey's objection. Heeney asks her to put hand up if she isn't done speaking.

...Derstine suggests McC killed Tori, #Rafferty wasn't there, only helped clean up. McClintic denies all suggestions from defense.

Derstine suggests McC wrote up a Q&A on her own about what to say to police if asked... McC says #Rafferty told her what to write.

 

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Adrian Morrow ‏
Derstine is pointing to inconsistencies in McClintic's statement

 

[Oldsoul2]

RaffertyLFP: McClintic continues to maintain she did not know Tori before her abduction.

Derstine suggests the abduction was her idea. Rafferty knew nothing of it.

Derstine says Tori was offered to Rafferty sexually. Rafferty rejected the offer. McClintic directed Rafferty to the country.

Really??? This is the defense strategy and the shocker we were supposed to hear for years according to the defense " we don't know all the details" This defense is going nowhere