trial thread: 3/29/2012

[Tahorn]

"Evil prevails when good men do nothing"?

 

[OhSoCurious]

Perhaps Rodney has become more quiet because the information he has learned is not exactly what he was expecting? Maybe he simply wants to reserve his comments until he gets a better grasp of where this trial is going.

 

[Kittymama]

Why do you suppose the news outlets decided not to print what Rodney had to say the last time he talked to the media? I have been curious about that.

 

[swedie]

Why do you suppose the news outlets decided not to print what Rodney had to say the last time he talked to the media? I have been curious about that.

I've wondered the same thing Kitty. Maybe he said something very revealing about evidence to come? MOO :waitasec:

 

[Kittymama]

Well, because it's so quiet, I guess this would be a good time to wonder aloud (so to speak) about other things that came up for me while I was reading along.

Did they not release the sketch that TLM drew of the car wash? I'd really like to see it, if they did. I'd like to know if it matches that one that someone found earlier in the thread. They released everything else; why not that?

Re: Jezbel saying MTR looked mean and menacing in court. I thought he looked mean and menacing in the ATM video (one in particular...I think the one from the day after?). JMO and my own observation.

Seeing her tombstone is so sad. It was so senseless--it's not like she died from a long and tragic illness, even. No time for her family to come to terms with an eventuality like that. No--a perfectly healthy little girl was snatched off the street in broad daylight. It should never have happened. It happened so fast.

 

[swedie]

Legal niceties can't soften brutality Christine Blatchford

When the prosecutor asked why she chose to blame Mr. Rafferty, she asked, "Rather than admit it was myself, you mean?" then said, "Because I could not accept that I was capable of committing something so heinous.

"He was the one who wanted to kidnap a child. He was the one who raped that child. - He must be the monster" who also killed her. "I don't understand what happened that day," she added.

After Mr. Gowdey pressed her repeatedly about how and when she'd decided to blame Mr. Rafferty, Ms. McClintic said, "In my mind, all the things I had ignored, such as risk factors - things, that if - this is a man who could do this again to some other child, so wasn't it up to me to do something about it?"

http://www.nationalpost.com/related/topics/Legal+niceties+soften+brutality/6317541/story.html

TLM felt MR was capable and would do it again. Thank God she fessed up before any other child became a victim of this sickening senseless act.

 

[swedie]

everyone is pretty quiet today!!! do we know who is on stand tomorrow?

The trial will not sit Thursday, but will resume Friday at 10 a.m. with evidence gathered in the area surrounding the crime scene. Jurors were expected to hear from OPP Detective Sergeant Jim Smyth, who found the little girl's remains.

http://www.nationalpost.com/related...hoes+found+along+side+road/6378442/story.html

I don't know when we will hear from Det. Smyth, but obviously sometime during this chapter. Much gratitude to him for finding Tori's little body. Job amazingly done. BTW speaking of Det. Smyth, I thought he did a spectacular job interviewing TLM and getting her confession. He certainly had tact. :tyou:

 

[Ardy]

We have to feel for Det Smyth and other LE.

We feel badly and they actually had to be there.

I hope he has a strong family and buddies to keep him okay.

 

[fats]

You just can't look at that picture and not have emotions flooding in...........

Profound sadness, grief, anger, frustration............are all there.

You have to wonder how it is possible the two accused could feel none of those emotions.

Since TLM's testimony, demon possession seems much less of a wildly abstract concept than it used to.

It is the only way I can gather any measure of sense to the tragedy, and that isn't a completely satisfying answer either.

Maybe physical brain damage or impairment..........but both of them?

If it is possible to hurt and neglect animals to such a point they fight back in a mindless manner, I suppose it is possible for a human being to have such horrid background and life experiences, that they become devoid of feeling and emotion themselves and rely on the same animal survival response themselves...........but both of them?

When I read some of TLM's testimony, especially about what the words and phrases she attributed to MR during the alleged rape (which really seem extraordinarily bizarre in an already bizarre scenario)...................it sounds almost like she is recounting something that happened to her as a child.

This is especially true when she described MR sitting on the front seat of his car, naked from the waist down. That paints such a surreal picture, that it made me wonder if she wasn't describing a scene from her own past, rather than the reality of what really happened.

Truthfully I hope it was a fantasy in her head, because otherwise we have to believe that 2 people filled with such evil, managing to meet up with each in a country with 30 million people, and mutually plot this horrendous act.

The thought of 1 person like that is too much, but 2 people is almost too much to contemplate.

Hopefully, the forensic examinations will produce evidence that one side or the other cannot deny.

But, we will still be left wondering.........why.

I am revolted by the crime scene scenario but IMO it is believable...IMO this crime could not have been carried out by the actions of just one of TLM and MR--It took 2 of them working together egging each other on and then 2 of them to hide the body and the evidence. 2 of them to complete this crime--and now they both tell lies----however ACTIONS speak volumes and why why why if MR is to be believed did he not lead LE to the murder site and help in anyway---as TLM is doing. They found each other and worked together--if they never met--Victoria would be here today.


These "Sociopaths" find each other, understand each other--there are characteristics that have been document by health professionals:

*Lack of EMPATHY for others is one of these chacteristics and that is a dangerous trait--Normal people cannot comprehend this trait as we feel for others and that's why we are so disgusted at how this could even happen.

 

[flipflop]

Thank you n/t for the picture. I have seen the video of RS at the cemetery with a reporter. So sad for any parent to have to visit their child that way. Sorry cannot locate that video right now.

I've wondered if the visit to that location in Mount Forest will be April 6th, two day before the day Tori was abducted three years ago. April 8th falls on a Sunday this year. I guess it would be classified as the third year anniversary, but to me anniversary sounds like something to celebrate and this is definitely not something to celebrate.:moo:

Eternal peace Victoria. You will never be forgotten. Justice is slow but looking hopeful little one.

April 6th=Good Friday, no court.

 

[~n/t~]

I am revolted by the crime scene scenario but IMO it is believable...IMO this crime could not have been carried out by the actions of just one of TLM and MR--It took 2 of them working together egging each other on and then 2 of them to hide the body and the evidence. 2 of them to complete this crime--and now they both tell lies----however ACTIONS speak volumes and why why why if MR is to be believed did he not lead LE to the murder site and help in anyway---as TLM is doing. They found each other and worked together--if they never met--Victoria would be here today.


These "Sociopaths" find each other, understand each other--there are characteristics that have been document by health professionals:

*Lack of EMPATHY for others is one of these chacteristics and that is a dangerous trait--Normal people cannot comprehend this trait as we feel for others and that's why we are so disgusted at how this could even happen.

I agree. It's absolutely believable. We've seen it already in this country with the Bernardo/Homolka. There is no doubt if these two weren't caught, they'd find other victims.

There's another case in Vermont. Not the murder of a child but a mom with a two year old little boy in the car who was lured by a husband and wife team.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166868"]Found Deceased VT -*ARRESTS MADE* Melissa Jenkins, 33, Danville, 25 March 2012 - - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

There is even a tv show on ID channel called Wicked Attraction.

Forensic Psychologists and Criminal Profilers uncover horrifying clues and reveal the true stories of people driven by love to commit murder. Wicked Attraction investigates some of the most terrifying crimes in recent history and delves inside the criminal mind to explore the roots of these deadly murders and the psychological motivations behind deadly duos.

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/wicked-attraction/

 

[nursebeeme]

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