Trial Thread 4/13/2012

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She's 25. In spring of 2009 she lived in London, near Fanshawe College. Met Rafferty on Plenty of Fish.

RaffertyLFP: Reid first encountered Rafferty online late in April 2009 - they exchanged phone numbers

Their online communications started at the end of April, 2009. They started exchanging texts.

RaffertyLFP: After online conversation Reid and Rafferty decided to go to a stag and doe near Hamilton about May 9

Rafferty asked her to go to a stag and doe with him near the Hamilton area. She accepted. This was in early May.

This would be the Stag and Doe that TM/Tamtam testified to yesterday, then.

So, Rafferty's good, long time friend, TM, possibly met this POF date of MTR's.

JMO
 
RaffertyLFP: Rafferty texted her. Sounded surprised about Tori's disappearance said he would look for her

Rafferty seemed "very supportive" of her being a mom. Just texting on the 10th (her testimony is going quickly).

RaffertyLFP: They met next day at Tim Horton's Chambers said Rafferty tried to comfort her
 
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
While she was out helping search for #ToriStafford, Chambers says #Rafferty called her and said he was also out looking for the 8-year-old.


:furious:
 
Just bringing forward the GF list created by Swedie with the latest additions ... Poor Girls.

Women MR was involved with around the time of Tori's death

-TL McClintic - 21, GF helped MR abduct Tori for alleged sexual/nefarious purposes.

-A. Lane - met MR in grade six and reconnect in 2009 through FB

- Miss WS - GF at the time of his arrest. Dated for five to six weeks.

-J. Wood - woman known to MR. She was in her Honda in GLF parking lot day of his arrest. Her car also seized by LE.

-Amanda - MR admitted to LE during taped interview May 15/09, he dated her a few times. MR claimed Amanda was a friend of TM and her daughter a friend to Tori. Note: This could be another Amanda as the one who I think knew TM is the other Amanda below.

-Kate - MR spoke about Kate (not real name), would not tell LE her real name.

-B. Armstrong - ex lover, met at BBeef/work, had girly talks with MR, supplied oxy drugs numerous times to MR including the day Tori was murdered.

-Miss Unknown (Pub ban) - 37, MR met her on POF April 12/09, MR told her about TLM in detention centre being questioned about Tori's abduction.

-S. Hodge - 31, C&Y worker MR met on POF April 14/09, saw each other every day for two and a half weeks. Said he was a dance instructor. She mostly drove them around, MR on phone setting up dance appointments. MR told her he took oxy, he thought he had colon cancer. MR spoke to her about people abducting children raising them as their own. Obsessed with Tori's case listening to news and reading newspaper.

-T. Moore aka Tam Tam, met MR on Yahoo 2003. MR bought car in 2007 from used car lot in TO. Noticed May 9/09 back seat and rear carpet missing from MR's car.

-M. LaBute, MR met her at her workplace Staples March 09, saying he was new in town. She told MR she wasn't interested, described MR as nervous and needy. Spent a lot of time on phone keeping track of his workers claiming to own contracting business.

- Ashley R. - She's 25. In spring of 2009 she lived in London, near Fanshawe College. Met Rafferty on Plenty of Fish. Rafferty asked her to go to a stag and doe with him near the Hamilton area. She accepted. This was in early May.

- S. Latimer is 50 year old real estate agent who lives on farm outside Woodstock Met Rafferty in Jan 2009 on Plenty of Fish.

- M. Wagler met Rafferty on Plenty of Fish. Rafferty's post said he was looking for romance. On Good Friday (April 8th) in 2009, he asked her to go for breakfast in London. She declined.

- A. Chambers is 33 and lives in Woodstock - mother of two (boy and girl). Chambers knew Tori Stafford, at one point her family lived around block and Tori played with her daugher (age 16). Chambers said they started communication near end of March 2009 they went out for coffee, went bowling, he came over to house. Chambers said she first met with Rafferty on April 3 2009. Chambers said she had sex with Rafferty once.
They got along well. Their relationship became sexual, "once", she says. JMO - I think she is the Amanda who he stated to police was friends with TM. Here is another OMG moment ... Chambers said #Rafferty told her he had a step-son named Jaden who had died 2 wks before they met. She said that pulled on her heartstrings.

- No name (#2) - The next witness is a 28 year old woman who met Michael Rafferty online thru Plenty of Fish (as Mychol) at the end of March 2009. The woman texted frequently and they met for coffee on a Friday near end of April, Rafferty claimed he was teaching dance class in Kitchener. They exchanged cell phone numbers. Communicated by text message. The woman said there was little info on Rafferty's Plenty of Fish post - said he "wasn't into games" that caught her interest. Rafferty told her he was a contractor and dance teacher and wanted to travel. The woman said Rafferty showed up at her workplace at one point. She was asked to go to the Stag and Doe, but said no, as she wasn't feeling well. Said it seemed weird to ask her. He seemed upset. She worked at Staples. He came into the store to say hi, brought a coffee. He asked why she wasn't more excited to see him. She was busy.

- Cooney - age 29, and lived in Kitchener in 2009. She also met Rafferty on Plenty of Fish.
 
They later met at a Tim Horton's. She become emotional. Said they discussed Tori going missing.

They saw a woman in a white jacket, he said if it was her, I would tackle her. He seemed concerned, had a "big heart" about the situation.

He told her he was sure Tori was fine, and she would be returned safe.

RaffertyLFP: He (Rafferty) seemed to be concerned about Tori "had a big heart" said Chambers
 
RaffertyLFP: Chambers and Rafferty went bowling next day he left abruply he seemed "wierd"

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He said his car had been broken into soon after, met her at Crabby Joe's in Woodstock (after bowling during the day).

RaffertyLFP: They also met at Crabby Joe's He seemed jealous and weird

She never saw him again. Only communicated with him a few times via text. Called her May 2nd.

He wanted to get together. They never did. Rafferty said he had a stepson who had passed away, named Jaden. It "tugged her heart strings".

RaffertyLFP: Rafferty told her he had a stepson that died - was contractor and dance instructor
 
They later met at a Tim Horton's. She become emotional. Said they discussed Tori going missing.

They saw a woman in a white jacket, he said if it was her, I would tackle her. He seemed concerned, had a "big heart" about the situation.

He told her he was sure Tori was fine, and she would be returned safe.

RaffertyLFP: He (Rafferty) seemed to be concerned about Tori "had a big heart" said Chambers

I feel so sorry for this girl.
 
6 degree's of separation...................>

It really is a small town isn't it? I wonder if he hit on TM's POF profile too but she was in a relationship with JG at that point so probably didn't keep up with it.

MOO
 
In spring of 2009, Rafferty put statements like "I want out", "Bring Tori home,", "What an 🤬🤬🤬, now I have no plans for Easter"

RaffertyLFP: Latimer said "Bring Tori Home" stood out - she didn't know who Tori was - Latimer was curious but didn't communicate with Rafferty

AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
In spring of 2009, Rafferty put statements like "I want out", "Bring Tori home,", "What an 🤬🤬🤬, now I have no plans for Easter"

...on his MSN display name. There were others. Only one involved Tori.

AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
"Bring Tori Home," was written in bold on his display name. Latimer didn't know who Tori was. Heard she was missing days later.

RaffertyLFP: Latimer found out few days later that Tori was a missing girl in Woodstock

She never asked Rafferty about Tori, or his display name.

BBM: BRING TORI HOME???? :furious: :silenced:
 
Rafferty is wiping his eyes in the prisoners box.

RaffertyLFP: Chambers said Rafferty knew that she knew Tara McDonald

She last saw Rafferty April 12th, last spoke on the phone May 2nd. He was ask about Tori via text message. "Seemed to be really interested"

No more questions from Gowdey.

RaffertyLFP: Derstine begins cross. He asks Chambers about reaction in Woodstock to Tori's disappearance. Chamber said it was major
 
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
While she was out helping search for #ToriStafford, Chambers says #Rafferty called her and said he was also out looking for the 8-year-old.


:furious:

All I can say is OMG... What a disturbed individual. I am completely disgusted!! What a psychopath. He reminds me of Bernardo. Totally thought that he got away with this and that TLM would take the fall.

I am still questioning why TLM all of the sudden said she killed Tori. All of this makes me believe he helped for sure.
 
Women MR was involved with around the time of Tori's death

-TL McClintic - 21, GF helped MR abduct Tori for alleged sexual/nefarious purposes.

-A. Lane - met MR in grade six and reconnect in 2009 through FB

- Miss WS - GF at the time of his arrest. Dated for five to six weeks.

-J. Wood - woman known to MR. She was in her Honda in GLF parking lot day of his arrest. Her car also seized by LE.

-Amanda - MR admitted to LE during taped interview May 15/09, he dated her a few times. MR claimed Amanda was a friend of TM and her daughter a friend to Tori. Note: This could be another Amanda as the one who I think knew TM is the other Amanda below.

-Kate - MR spoke about Kate (not real name), would not tell LE her real name.

-B. Armstrong - ex lover, met at BBeef/work, had girly talks with MR, supplied oxy drugs numerous times to MR including the day Tori was murdered.

-Miss Unknown (Pub ban) - 37, MR met her on POF April 12/09, MR told her about TLM in detention centre being questioned about Tori's abduction.

-S. Hodge - 31, C&Y worker MR met on POF April 14/09, saw each other every day for two and a half weeks. Said he was a dance instructor. She mostly drove them around, MR on phone setting up dance appointments. MR told her he took oxy, he thought he had colon cancer. MR spoke to her about people abducting children raising them as their own. Obsessed with Tori's case listening to news and reading newspaper.

-T. Moore aka Tam Tam, met MR on Yahoo 2003. MR bought car in 2007 from used car lot in TO. Noticed May 9/09 back seat and rear carpet missing from MR's car.

-M. LaBute, MR met her at her workplace Staples March 09, saying he was new in town. She told MR she wasn't interested, described MR as nervous and needy. Spent a lot of time on phone keeping track of his workers claiming to own contracting business.

- Ashley R. - She's 25. In spring of 2009 she lived in London, near Fanshawe College. Met Rafferty on Plenty of Fish. Rafferty asked her to go to a stag and doe with him near the Hamilton area. She accepted. This was in early May.

- S. Latimer is 50 year old real estate agent who lives on farm outside Woodstock Met Rafferty in Jan 2009 on Plenty of Fish.

- M. Wagler met Rafferty on Plenty of Fish. Rafferty's post said he was looking for romance. On Good Friday (April 8th) in 2009, he asked her to go for breakfast in London. She declined.

- A. Chambers is 33 and lives in Woodstock - mother of two (boy and girl). Chambers knew Tori Stafford, at one point her family lived around block and Tori played with her daugher (age 16). Chambers said they started communication near end of March 2009 they went out for coffee, went bowling, he came over to house. Chambers said she first met with Rafferty on April 3 2009. Chambers said she had sex with Rafferty once.
They got along well. Their relationship became sexual, "once", she says. JMO - I think she is the Amanda who he stated to police was friends with TM.


Feeling the need for a spreadsheet and a flowchart. :needdrink::whiteflag:
 
:furious:

Gotta go do my dishes and cool off for a few min. Got nothing but curse words to contribute at the moment.
 
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Chambers said #Rafferty told her he had a step-son named Jaden who had died
2 wks before they met. She said that pulled on her heartstrings

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Chambers said #Rafferty "seemed to have a big heart about the situation" (Tori's disappearance), said he was sure Tori was okay.

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Chambers said she was upset about Tori's disappearance and #Rafferty tried to calm her by saying he was sure she would be returned safely.
 
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
After their last in-person encounter, Chambers says #Rafferty would text her and ask if she had heard any more about #ToriStafford
 
Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
Amanda Chambers is excused. Morning recess for 20 minutes.

Avery Moore ‏ @AveryFreeFMNews
#Rafferty's lawyer asks Amanda Chambers whether someone would have stood out in Woodstock if they weren't talking about Tori. She says yes.
 
RaffertyLFP: Derstine begins cross. He asks Chambers about reaction in Woodstock to Tori's disappearance. Chamber said it was major

Derstine asks if everybody in Woodstock was talking about Tori. She says most were.

"You almost would have stood out if you weren't talking about it?" Derstine asks. She agrees.
 
RaffertyLFP: Chambers and Rafferty went bowling next day he left abruply he seemed "wierd"

AM980.ca ‏ @AM980_Court
He said his car had been broken into soon after, met her at Crabby Joe's in Woodstock (after bowling during the day).

RaffertyLFP: They also met at Crabby Joe's He seemed jealous and weird

She never saw him again. Only communicated with him a few times via text. Called her May 2nd.

He wanted to get together. They never did. Rafferty said he had a stepson who had passed away, named Jaden. It "tugged her heart strings".

RaffertyLFP: Rafferty told her he had a stepson that died - was contractor and dance instructor

Wonder if there is a missing boy somewhere.......hmmmm. Probably lies but I sure as hell would want to know if its a true fact.
 
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